Jim takes his time....

[Southpaw191679666239]

I can't recall him ever saying "I want that guy," and going out and wrapping him up as soon as possible. Whenever he has shown interest, he takes his time and usually ends up losing out.

 

 

Haven't bullpen arms been "his guys"? Didn't he specifically target Remlinger, Hawkins, Eyre, and Howry and then get them?

[Jehrico]

I can't recall him ever saying "I want that guy," and going out and wrapping him up as soon as possible. Whenever he has shown interest, he takes his time and usually ends up losing out.

 

 

Haven't bullpen arms been "his guys"? Didn't he specifically target Remlinger, Hawkins, Eyre, and Howry and then get them?

Eyre and Howry were the exceptions. I don't recall him wrapping up Remlinger or Hawkins that quickly, those happened a little later in the offseason. I'd like to see him just once target a big name FA, say "that's my guy," and go out and bowl him over. He's always lukewarm on his interest on anyone (other than Dusty 4 years ago), and tries wait for the bidding to develop as if he thinks he can get someone cheap when there's no interest from someone else (with the good players, that is, he has no problem bowling over the Glendon's and Neifi's of the world).

[CubColtPacer]

I can't recall him ever saying "I want that guy," and going out and wrapping him up as soon as possible. Whenever he has shown interest, he takes his time and usually ends up losing out.

 

 

Haven't bullpen arms been "his guys"? Didn't he specifically target Remlinger, Hawkins, Eyre, and Howry and then get them?

Eyre and Howry were the exceptions. I don't recall him wrapping up Remlinger or Hawkins that quickly, those happened a little later in the offseason. I'd like to see him just once target a big name FA, say "that's my guy," and go out and bowl him over. He's always lukewarm on his interest on anyone (other than Dusty 4 years ago), and tries wait for the bidding to develop as if he thinks he can get someone cheap when there's no interest from someone else (with the good players, that is, he has no problem bowling over the Glendon's and Neifi's of the world).

 

Erye was on November 29th

Howry was on December 2nd

Hawkins was on December 3rd

Remlinger was on December 4th

[Jehrico]

I can't recall him ever saying "I want that guy," and going out and wrapping him up as soon as possible. Whenever he has shown interest, he takes his time and usually ends up losing out.

 

 

Haven't bullpen arms been "his guys"? Didn't he specifically target Remlinger, Hawkins, Eyre, and Howry and then get them?

Eyre and Howry were the exceptions. I don't recall him wrapping up Remlinger or Hawkins that quickly, those happened a little later in the offseason. I'd like to see him just once target a big name FA, say "that's my guy," and go out and bowl him over. He's always lukewarm on his interest on anyone (other than Dusty 4 years ago), and tries wait for the bidding to develop as if he thinks he can get someone cheap when there's no interest from someone else (with the good players, that is, he has no problem bowling over the Glendon's and Neifi's of the world).

 

Erye was on November 29th

Howry was on December 2nd

Hawkins was on December 3rd

Remlinger was on December 4th

Okay then...let him go do that with a big bat or a starter for once!

[CubColtPacer]

I can't recall him ever saying "I want that guy," and going out and wrapping him up as soon as possible. Whenever he has shown interest, he takes his time and usually ends up losing out.

 

 

Haven't bullpen arms been "his guys"? Didn't he specifically target Remlinger, Hawkins, Eyre, and Howry and then get them?

Eyre and Howry were the exceptions. I don't recall him wrapping up Remlinger or Hawkins that quickly, those happened a little later in the offseason. I'd like to see him just once target a big name FA, say "that's my guy," and go out and bowl him over. He's always lukewarm on his interest on anyone (other than Dusty 4 years ago), and tries wait for the bidding to develop as if he thinks he can get someone cheap when there's no interest from someone else (with the good players, that is, he has no problem bowling over the Glendon's and Neifi's of the world).

 

Erye was on November 29th

Howry was on December 2nd

Hawkins was on December 3rd

Remlinger was on December 4th

Okay then...let him go do that with a big bat or a starter for once!

 

With that, we are in complete agreement :D

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I can't recall him ever saying "I want that guy," and going out and wrapping him up as soon as possible. Whenever he has shown interest, he takes his time and usually ends up losing out.

 

 

Haven't bullpen arms been "his guys"? Didn't he specifically target Remlinger, Hawkins, Eyre, and Howry and then get them?

Eyre and Howry were the exceptions. I don't recall him wrapping up Remlinger or Hawkins that quickly, those happened a little later in the offseason. I'd like to see him just once target a big name FA, say "that's my guy," and go out and bowl him over. He's always lukewarm on his interest on anyone (other than Dusty 4 years ago), and tries wait for the bidding to develop as if he thinks he can get someone cheap when there's no interest from someone else (with the good players, that is, he has no problem bowling over the Glendon's and Neifi's of the world).

 

Erye was on November 29th

Howry was on December 2nd

Hawkins was on December 3rd

Remlinger was on December 4th

 

Heck, Hendry didn't even wait for the arbitration deadline to pass to sign Hawkins.

[Larry Horse]

And don't forget his guy Furcal......never mind.

[biittner77]

Perhaps we're looking at this backwards. All of the candidates I've heard mentioned have multiple options available. Brenly might be waiting to see what happens with SF. Girardi might prefer the opportunity to stick it to Florida on a more regular basis. They might all be waiting to see what Piniella does.

 

I believe Hendry knows who he wants but that person, unlike Dusty Baker, has other options to weigh before he decides.

[Yeti]

seems to me that Jim wants to talk to someone who's team was or still is in the playoffs, im willing to be patient...i sure hope whoever it is doesnt make the WS and we can get this over with sooner than later

[Electron Blue]

seems to me that Jim wants to talk to someone who's team was or still is in the playoffs, im willing to be patient...i sure hope whoever it is doesnt make the WS and we can get this over with sooner than later

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only playoff managers remotely mentioned as a possibility have been Bruce Bochy Joe Torre. In other words, I wouldn't expect much of a wait (at least not for the reason of teams being eliminated).

 

I don't see him interested in Randolph, Leyland, LaRussa (shudder), or Macha.

 

edit: I guess you said "was or still is in the playoffs." So I guess I'm actually agreeing with you, Yeti :)

[rawaction]

Mets 3B coach, Acta has been mentioned, but I think that's a long shot. I think it's pretty obvious he's waiting on Bochy now. Waiting to get permission and/or an agreement.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I hope it's Bochy.

[Yeti]

Mets 3B coach, Acta has been mentioned, but I think that's a long shot. I think it's pretty obvious he's waiting on Bochy now. Waiting to get permission and/or an agreement.

yeah, ive heard Acta mentioned too, i hope he's not on JH's radar simply because of the wait that would be involved, now that the Padres are done for the season, im hopeing something happens quickly.

[Laura]

Phil Rogers (yeah, I know) suggests that the Nationals' interest in Girardi may force Hendry's hand.

 

Meanwhile you wonder if the Nationals' interest in Joe Girardi could force Cubs general manager Jim Hendry to a decision in the next few days.

 

If the Nationals want Girardi, and the indications are he's high on their list, they could extend him a time-sensitive offer, making it impossible for him to wait long on the Cubs. It's hard to see this process running too much longer.

 

Rogers favors Piniella.

[Bull]

Phil Rogers (yeah, I know) suggests that the Nationals' interest in Girardi may force Hendry's hand.

 

Meanwhile you wonder if the Nationals' interest in Joe Girardi could force Cubs general manager Jim Hendry to a decision in the next few days.

 

If the Nationals want Girardi, and the indications are he's high on their list, they could extend him a time-sensitive offer, making it impossible for him to wait long on the Cubs. It's hard to see this process running too much longer.

 

Rogers favors Piniella.

 

I don't think they look at all alike.

[TheDude]

I hope people are willing to accept that Hendry's patience isn't a sign of failure by now. The anti-Hendry sentiment for the first three days of the offseason was pretty extreme and unforgiving.

[goonys evil twin]

I hope people are willing to accept that Hendry's patience isn't a sign of failure by now. The anti-Hendry sentiment for the first three days of the offseason was pretty extreme and unforgiving.

 

Hendry's existence in the Cubs front office is a sign of failure. Anti-Hendry sentiment was, and is, extreme because he's a pathetic GM that has screwed over Cubs fans. To me, that is unforgiving.

[CubinNY]

I hope people are willing to accept that Hendry's patience isn't a sign of failure by now. The anti-Hendry sentiment for the first three days of the offseason was pretty extreme and unforgiving.

 

Bruce Miles says in today's column that Piniella is Hendry's top choice,

if you think anti-Hendry sentiment was high then, well you ain't seen nothin' yet.

[TheDude]

I hope people are willing to accept that Hendry's patience isn't a sign of failure by now. The anti-Hendry sentiment for the first three days of the offseason was pretty extreme and unforgiving.

 

Hendry's existence in the Cubs front office is a sign of failure. Anti-Hendry sentiment was, and is, extreme because he's a pathetic GM that has screwed over Cubs fans. To me, that is unforgiving.

 

With that line of thinking, and such a blanket out-of-context statement, you are turning all your opinions on a specific subject matter into irrelevent observations not worth reading.

 

I am pretty sure everyone is aware of your hatred of Hendry. Not every individual conversation requires that turning of the jack-in-the-box crank response.

 

My comment was specific to the context of hiring a manager within 48 hours of Bakers departure, which was the source of the ire in this thread and a dozen others the past week+.

[kylescubs23]

Its amazing the same people who were wanting Hendry to be promoted a few years ago are now the same ones who want him canned.

[Banedon]

Its amazing the same people who were wanting Hendry to be promoted a few years ago are now the same ones who want him canned.

 

Promoted to what? Hendry has been GM during entire existence of this board, so you can't be talking about his promotion to GM.

[goonys evil twin]

I hope people are willing to accept that Hendry's patience isn't a sign of failure by now. The anti-Hendry sentiment for the first three days of the offseason was pretty extreme and unforgiving.

 

Hendry's existence in the Cubs front office is a sign of failure. Anti-Hendry sentiment was, and is, extreme because he's a pathetic GM that has screwed over Cubs fans. To me, that is unforgiving.

 

With that line of thinking, and such a blanket out-of-context statement, you are turning all your opinions on a specific subject matter into irrelevent observations not worth reading.

 

I am pretty sure everyone is aware of your hatred of Hendry. Not every individual conversation requires that turning of the jack-in-the-box crank response.

 

My comment was specific to the context of hiring a manager within 48 hours of Bakers departure, which was the source of the ire in this thread and a dozen others the past week+.

 

It's not out of context. Jim has screwed this team up, and most people have very little faith in him. They fear the worst, which is fairly reasonable, given the situation. Your jack-in-the-box response of defending Hendry at every turn is well documented, so it doesn't really matter what specific circumstance you bring up.

 

You act surprised, and quite incredulous, when people express doubt anti-Hendry sentiment and assume the worse. I don't understand why.

 

I don't understand how recent events could possibly indicate that people misread signs of failure. It's 2 weeks after the season ended, 3 months after it became clear Dusty was gone, a full year after he should have been gone, and 4 years after he screwed up in the first place by hiring the exact wrong guy. But you are more interested in criticizing fans who don't like the direction this team is going.

[goonys evil twin]

Its amazing the same people who were wanting Hendry to be promoted a few years ago are now the same ones who want him canned.

 

Promoted to what? Hendry has been GM during entire existence of this board, so you can't be talking about his promotion to GM.

 

I want him promoted back when he was the minor league guy and the minor leagues looked like they were the lone bright spot in the organization. I thought he'd be a good GM. He's since proved otherwise. I don't see what is so amazing about coming to a realization that somebody you thought would be good for a job is actually bad at it. It would be amazingly foolish to sit here 4 years later and insist he stay despite the failures simply because you thought he would be good for the job. It would be like a president sticking with bumbling cabinent members simply because he can't admit a mistake.

[Laura]

I hope people are willing to accept that Hendry's patience isn't a sign of failure by now. The anti-Hendry sentiment for the first three days of the offseason was pretty extreme and unforgiving.

 

What is it a sign of?

 

Hendry is still in danger of losing whoever his top choice is.

 

If it's Piniella, the Giants remain very interested in him.

 

If it's Girardi, the Nationals are rumored to have him at the top of their list. After being publicly dismissed by Piniella, they aren't going to let Girardi string them along on the off-chance that the Cubs might offer him a job.

 

If it's Bochy, Chris De Luca writes today that the Cubs still haven't requested permission to interview him:

 

Sources say the Cubs aren't willing to close the window just yet. Before making a decision on Girardi or Piniella, the Cubs are expected to contact the San Diego Padres to get a firm answer on whether they will be allowed to interview manager Bruce Bochy.

 

Hendry made the same call four years ago -- before hiring Baker -- and the answer was no. The Chicago Tribune reported Wednesday that the Arizona Diamondbacks asked the Padres for permission to interview Bochy last offseason and the request was granted. Not true.

 

Although it was reported that the Cubs were intending to request permission, they apparently haven't gotten around to doing so yet. That jibes with what Towers said the other day. Towers also said that the first thing San Diego had on their off-season to-do list was hammering out a contract extension for Bochy. (realizing that there are also rumors that Alderson is willing to let them both walk)

[TheDude]

I hope people are willing to accept that Hendry's patience isn't a sign of failure by now. The anti-Hendry sentiment for the first three days of the offseason was pretty extreme and unforgiving.

 

What is it a sign of?

 

Hendry is still in danger of losing whoever his top choice is.

 

If it's Piniella, the Giants remain very interested in him.

 

If it's Girardi, the Nationals are rumored to have him at the top of their list. After being publicly dismissed by Piniella, they aren't going to let Girardi string them along on the off-chance that the Cubs might offer him a job.

 

If it's Bochy, Chris De Luca writes today that the Cubs still haven't requested permission to interview him:

 

Sources say the Cubs aren't willing to close the window just yet. Before making a decision on Girardi or Piniella, the Cubs are expected to contact the San Diego Padres to get a firm answer on whether they will be allowed to interview manager Bruce Bochy.

 

Hendry made the same call four years ago -- before hiring Baker -- and the answer was no. The Chicago Tribune reported Wednesday that the Arizona Diamondbacks asked the Padres for permission to interview Bochy last offseason and the request was granted. Not true.

 

Although it was reported that the Cubs were intending to request permission, they apparently haven't gotten around to doing so yet. That jibes with what Towers said the other day. Towers also said that the first thing San Diego had on their off-season to-do list was hammering out a contract extension for Bochy. (realizing that there are also rumors that Alderson is willing to let them both walk)

 

I've read much of the same material, but come away with a different perspective. The team, not coaches, control the pace right now.

 

Of the few open positions out there, Girardi is thought to only land in Washington, if not Chicago. Piniella perhaps in San Francisco, but as an outside shot.

 

Texas isn't interested in either if you believe Bruce Miles. There are only four teams hiring at this point, and for each highly speculated Cubs candidate, there appears to be two 'real options' (in other words, not a long-shot) - the Cubs and one other.

 

I don't see where the urgency comes in at this point.