Wade Miller to take Zambrano's spot.

[A New Era]

First you say that Miller will never get his velocity back and he's toast. Then you complain about Hendry not getting an option for next season? At least be consistent.

 

No inconsistency whatsoever.

 

I wouldn't have signed him at all, but, if you're going to sign a rehabbing pitcher, there has to be some upside to the signing.

 

Having signed Miller for 2006 gives the Cubs exactly ZERO advantage over the 29 other teams going into the '06-'07 offseason.

 

Where's the upside?

 

Miller will resign with the Cubs, if that's what Hendry wants. He's not getting a multi-year deal from anyone. We can give an incentive laden 1 year deal just like anyone else and we're in his good graces for signing him at 1M. It's not like organizations are lining up to take risks on players. Hendry doesn't mind the several million dollar gamble on a starting pitcher. I don't either considering their worth to a ballclub.

 

Maybe Hendry did mess up. The future will tell. But, don't rag on Miller for being "toast" when he's still rehabbing. I can't think of a player who wasn't mediocre when rehabbing from a semi-serious surgery. So he doesn't have his velocity back. Big whoop. It'll come back or it won't. I'd be fine with the cubs spending several million bucks to find out. We spent how many millions on the likes of Neifi Perez and Glendon Rusch? At least Miller has a high upside. Will he reach it? Maybe. Maybe not. Let's find out. Be patient.

Big whoop? I would like to see a WS championship some time this century. It's time for a fully qualified GM to take over.

 

Just curious, what was your big whoop about? That you wouldn't want to give Miller an extremly incentive latent deal to be our #5? I would, especially if he shows decent progress the rest of the way. If he doesn't, then no.

[YearofDaCubs]

First you say that Miller will never get his velocity back and he's toast. Then you complain about Hendry not getting an option for next season? At least be consistent.

 

No inconsistency whatsoever.

 

I wouldn't have signed him at all, but, if you're going to sign a rehabbing pitcher, there has to be some upside to the signing.

 

Having signed Miller for 2006 gives the Cubs exactly ZERO advantage over the 29 other teams going into the '06-'07 offseason.

 

Where's the upside?

 

Miller will resign with the Cubs, if that's what Hendry wants. He's not getting a multi-year deal from anyone. We can give an incentive laden 1 year deal just like anyone else and we're in his good graces for signing him at 1M. It's not like organizations are lining up to take risks on players. Hendry doesn't mind the several million dollar gamble on a starting pitcher. I don't either considering their worth to a ballclub.

 

Maybe Hendry did mess up. The future will tell. But, don't rag on Miller for being "toast" when he's still rehabbing. I can't think of a player who wasn't mediocre when rehabbing from a semi-serious surgery. So he doesn't have his velocity back. Big whoop. It'll come back or it won't. I'd be fine with the cubs spending several million bucks to find out. We spent how many millions on the likes of Neifi Perez and Glendon Rusch? At least Miller has a high upside. Will he reach it? Maybe. Maybe not. Let's find out. Be patient.

Big whoop? I would like to see a WS championship some time this century. It's time for a fully qualified GM to take over.

 

Just curious, what was your big whoop about? That you wouldn't want to give Miller an extremly incentive latent deal to be our #5? I would, especially if he shows decent progress the rest of the way. If he doesn't, then no.

I wouldn't sign him period. I didn't like the fact that we signed him when we did because I felt he could not recover to make a difference for us. He rested his shoulder and signed with the Red Sox and it didn't work too well. Then when the rest didn't work (which sounds like what Wood is doing now) He decided to have surgery. I personally believe he will provide us with no help.

[Drew Doughty]

Miller's great!

 

First start in the big leagues in over a year. I would take a healthy Wade Miller over a guy like Angel Guzman.

 

I think most people would take a healthy Wade Miller over most pitchers. Problem is that he'll probably never be healthy.

 

You would think. But, some people on this site actually would take Brady Clark over Vernon Wells.

 

That doesn't apply at all. And given the chance with how much Wells is going to cost talent-wise, I *might* take Clark. You don't just take the greatest player available if it costs as much as Wells is going to cost after a career year as he's not likely to sustain that production.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Miller will resign with the Cubs, if that's what Hendry wants. He's not getting a multi-year deal from anyone. We can give an incentive laden 1 year deal just like anyone else and we're in his good graces for signing him at 1M. It's not like organizations are lining up to take risks on players. Hendry doesn't mind the several million dollar gamble on a starting pitcher. I don't either considering their worth to a ballclub.

 

Who is your source? Why wouldn't a club offer him a 2 or 3 year deal now that he's surgically repaired and rehabilitated? If he shows improvement and stays healthy over the next few months, there will be teams interested. Hendry already took the big risk -- it's nowhere near as great when planning for '07.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Miller's great!

 

First start in the big leagues in over a year. I would take a healthy Wade Miller over a guy like Angel Guzman.

 

I think most people would take a healthy Wade Miller over most pitchers. Problem is that he'll probably never be healthy.

 

You would think. But, some people on this site actually would take Brady Clark over Vernon Wells.

 

Yeah, I know. And some people on this site would rather have Benji Molina than Barrett. That's ludicrous!

[RichHillIsABeast]

Miller will resign with the Cubs, if that's what Hendry wants. He's not getting a multi-year deal from anyone. We can give an incentive laden 1 year deal just like anyone else and we're in his good graces for signing him at 1M. It's not like organizations are lining up to take risks on players. Hendry doesn't mind the several million dollar gamble on a starting pitcher. I don't either considering their worth to a ballclub.

 

Who is your source? Why wouldn't a club offer him a 2 or 3 year deal now that he's surgically repaired and rehabilitated? If he shows improvement and stays healthy over the next few months, there will be teams interested. Hendry already took the big risk -- it's nowhere near as great when planning for '07.

 

The velo on his fastball is topping out at 91. He was at 95 easily pre-injury. He's not rehabilitated and repaired. It'll take time. He hasn't put up great numbers in his minor league starts, much less against the Braves in his first ML start. If he was hitting 95 with little velo drop after 100 pitches, then you'd probably see a multi-year deal thrown his way. You don't throw a multi-year deal at someone who hasn't proven his health or stuff.

 

Miller isn't going to gain 4+ mph on his fastball in the remaining 20 games, which means another 3 possible starts for him. 3 decent starts aren't going to get him a multi-year deal from anyone.

 

Ya'll are worrying over nothing. Miller will be a Cub if Hendry wants him. It could be our scouts see some things they don't like and we take a pass. Miller's return to pre-injury form is no sure thing as TT pointed out. We'll have a better idea what the chances are than any club out there has. If we pass, buyer beware.

[A New Era]

Miller will resign with the Cubs, if that's what Hendry wants. He's not getting a multi-year deal from anyone. We can give an incentive laden 1 year deal just like anyone else and we're in his good graces for signing him at 1M. It's not like organizations are lining up to take risks on players. Hendry doesn't mind the several million dollar gamble on a starting pitcher. I don't either considering their worth to a ballclub.

 

Who is your source? Why wouldn't a club offer him a 2 or 3 year deal now that he's surgically repaired and rehabilitated? If he shows improvement and stays healthy over the next few months, there will be teams interested. Hendry already took the big risk -- it's nowhere near as great when planning for '07.

 

The velo on his fastball is topping out at 91. He was at 95 easily pre-injury. He's not rehabilitated and repaired. It'll take time. He hasn't put up great numbers in his minor league starts, much less against the Braves in his first ML start. If he was hitting 95 with little velo drop after 100 pitches, then you'd probably see a multi-year deal thrown his way. You don't throw a multi-year deal at someone who hasn't proven his health or stuff.

 

Miller isn't going to gain 4+ mph on his fastball in the remaining 20 games, which means another 3 possible starts for him. 3 decent starts aren't going to get him a multi-year deal from anyone.

 

Ya'll are worrying over nothing. Miller will be a Cub if Hendry wants him. It could be our scouts see some things they don't like and we take a pass. Miller's return to pre-injury form is no sure thing as TT pointed out. We'll have a better idea what the chances are than any club out there has. If we pass, buyer beware.

 

:lol: :lol: You got that right! If the CUBS pass on an injured or pre-injured pitcher, you'd better watch out!! :lol: :lol:

[Neuby]

I hope Hendry considers what Miller shows the rest of the way and if he shows anything Miller will be worth another look. Wood having sucesss in the bullpen next year would our pen one of the best in game. Mark Mulder would make a nice gamble also. Hendry is going to have to gamble and spend big this offseason to get this team back to the playoffs. I only want the names above if we can also add a top tier starting pitcher this offseason and two big bats.

[A New Era]

I hope Hendry considers what Miller shows the rest of the way and if he shows anything Miller will be worth another look. Wood having sucesss in the bullpen next year would our pen one of the best in game. Mark Mulder would make a nice gamble also. Hendry is going to have to gamble and spend big this offseason to get this team back to the playoffs. I only want the names above if we can also add a top tier starting pitcher this offseason and two big bats.

 

Don't think we can afford THAT much. I would be happy and think we could win the division easily if we got 1 big bat and 1 top teir SP. Let's just assume, Miller progresses and can possibly get up to 92-93 next year, I'd take the gamble on an incentive laden contract. Add the big bat and top teir pitcher and this easily contends with st. louis. .

 

Pierre

Murton

D Lee

Ramirez

Soriano

Barret

Jones

Izturis

P

 

Zambrano

Top Teir #2

Hill

Miller

Prior/Marshall/Mateo

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Miller's great!

 

First start in the big leagues in over a year. I would take a healthy Wade Miller over a guy like Angel Guzman.

 

A healthy and rust-free Guzman? Maybe, maybe not.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Wade Miller is DONE as a MLB starter. Now if he has interest ins starting his new career as a long reliever/spot starter, I might be interested in having back. But seeing as there are teams like the DRays/Royals/Pirates (you know the clubs that contend with the Cubs) who will offer Miller a starting rotation spot, I doubt you'll see Miller back in Chicago.

[frostwyrm]

The Cubs signed Miller with no club option for next season.

 

That means they are paying him $1M to let him use their rehab facilities and get some games in the minors and perhaps a few here in September so he can then leave as a FA to the highest bidder.

 

That about sums it up. I still haven't seen any evidence that Miller would give the Cubs a significant discount to re-sign, and considering that his next contract may be his last baseball payday, he has every reason to get the most he can.

[hardcorecubfan]

The Cubs signed Miller with no club option for next season.

 

That means they are paying him $1M to let him use their rehab facilities and get some games in the minors and perhaps a few here in September so he can then leave as a FA to the highest bidder.

 

Jim Hendry is dumb. Really, really dumb.

 

I expect that he will further demonstrate said dumbness by outbidding all other bidders for the 2007 services of Miller.

 

Opposed to 12 we paid Kerry (noodle arm) Woods?

[baseball7897]

The Cubs signed Miller with no club option for next season.

 

That means they are paying him $1M to let him use their rehab facilities and get some games in the minors and perhaps a few here in September so he can then leave as a FA to the highest bidder.

 

Jim Hendry is dumb. Really, really dumb.

 

I expect that he will further demonstrate said dumbness by outbidding all other bidders for the 2007 services of Miller.

 

Opposed to 12 we paid Kerry (noodle arm) Woods?

 

Wood was coming off back to back seasons where he made 30 or more starts, and he pitched over 200 innings. I dont have a problem with Hendry offering Wood that contract.

[RichHillIsABeast]

The Cubs signed Miller with no club option for next season.

 

That means they are paying him $1M to let him use their rehab facilities and get some games in the minors and perhaps a few here in September so he can then leave as a FA to the highest bidder.

 

Jim Hendry is dumb. Really, really dumb.

 

I expect that he will further demonstrate said dumbness by outbidding all other bidders for the 2007 services of Miller.

 

Opposed to 12 we paid Kerry (noodle arm) Woods?

 

Who's Kerry Woods?

[CuseCubFan69]

It's too bad Rusch isn't starting too because the bleachers would be full of souvenir HR balls. Sorry, they throw those back...well the first pick would be a lock then.

[NCCubFan]

Who's Kerry Woods?

He's the son of former Cubs outfielder Gary Woods. :D