The worst organization in professional sports

[NorthsideAvenger]

The Cubs are going to make HISTORY this yr:

The Chicago Cubs have gone the longest between titles, having last won the World Series in 1908. The Philadelphia Phillies played titleless for 97 seasons, finally winning in 1980. Barring a miraculous comeback, the Cubs' own dry spell will surpass that record in 2006.

 

wikipedia.com

 

Think about that...Philadelphia organization went from 1883-1979 without winning a TITLE. Then in 1980....BOOM, World Series titles, after 97 years.

 

The Cubs last won the title in 1908. This is 2006. After the year, the Cubs would have gone 98 years without a title, and they will set the record for the longest drought in sports history.

 

Phildelphia was at 97 years without a title.

Chicago NL will be at 98 and counting.

 

Doesn't that give you SUCH a confidence that this org knows what the heck they are doing? :evil:

 

(Did you know theme plays)

[Soul]

The Cubs are going to make HISTORY this yr:

The Chicago Cubs have gone the longest between titles, having last won the World Series in 1908. The Philadelphia Phillies played titleless for 97 seasons, finally winning in 1980. Barring a miraculous comeback, the Cubs' own dry spell will surpass that record in 2006.

 

wikipedia.com

 

Think about that...Philadelphia organization went from 1883-1979 without winning a TITLE. Then in 1980....BOOM, World Series titles, after 97 years.

 

The Cubs last won the title in 1908. This is 2006. After the year, the Cubs would have gone 98 years without a title, and they will set the record for the longest drought in sports history.

 

Phildelphia was at 97 years without a title.

Chicago NL will be at 98 and counting.

 

Doesn't that give you SUCH a confidence that this org knows what the heck they are doing? :evil:

 

(Did you know theme plays)

 

Indeed. However, an organization must also be judged on things like profitability, marketability, fan interest, market share. The Cubs do very well in these categories.

 

I'll stick with an organization who not only loses, but has no fan support as my WORST franchise. #of years since the last championship is only one factor.

 

And that franchise? It is the Blackhawks.

[jjgman21]

The Cubs are going to make HISTORY this yr:

The Chicago Cubs have gone the longest between titles, having last won the World Series in 1908. The Philadelphia Phillies played titleless for 97 seasons, finally winning in 1980. Barring a miraculous comeback, the Cubs' own dry spell will surpass that record in 2006.

 

wikipedia.com

 

Think about that...Philadelphia organization went from 1883-1979 without winning a TITLE. Then in 1980....BOOM, World Series titles, after 97 years.

 

The Cubs last won the title in 1908. This is 2006. After the year, the Cubs would have gone 98 years without a title, and they will set the record for the longest drought in sports history.

 

Phildelphia was at 97 years without a title.

Chicago NL will be at 98 and counting.

 

Doesn't that give you SUCH a confidence that this org knows what the heck they are doing? :evil:

 

(Did you know theme plays)

 

Indeed. However, an organization must also be judged on things like profitability, marketability, fan interest, market share. The Cubs do very well in these categories.

 

I'll stick with an organization who not only loses, but has no fan support as my WORST franchise. #of years since the last championship is only one factor.

 

And that franchise? It is the Blackhawks.

 

it's pretty hard to say that though considering they were Jaromir Jagr away from winning the Stanley Cup only 15 years ago. the the RedWings got serious, and Wirtz gave up.

[soccer10k]

As a whole, the Cubs are the worst organization in the history of sports because of 97 years of futility.Recently the New York Knicks take the crown because Isiah Thomas has completely run the team into the ground. He has bogged the team down with horrible trades that forced the team to take on ungodly bad contracts that nobody else wanted. Because of this they have the highest payroll in the league which managed to get them the second worst record in the league. They didn't have their #2 pick in the draft this year and the Bulls will have the option of switching picks with them next year (which they will do because the Knicks suck and the Bulls don't) which means they don't have much of a chance of drafting a great player that can help them right away. They are likely going to owe Larry Brown a ton of money because they fired him (he had 4/$40 left on his deal). Right now the Knicks are a complete embarassment and there isn't much hope for the next couple years.

 

At least the Cubs have the chance to make some good FA signings and trades to make the team competative next year. The Knicks will be lucky to win 30 games in 2006-07.

 

I have to sell that. Is not winning a world championship the only criteria?

 

My criteria is this: would you rather be a Detroit Lions fan or a Cub fan? Would you rather be a Cleveland Browns fan or a Cub fan? Would you rather be a Tampa Bay Devil Ray fan or a Cub fan? A Pittsburgh Pirate fan of a Cub fan? A Toronto Raptor fan or a Cub fan? I think one is blowing it way out of proportion to call the Cubs the worst organization in sports history. Or either they've forgotten about the Cub history from 1906-1945. History means existence forever, not just the last three decades. You can't really compare playoff appearances with baseball teams as you can hockey or basketball teams since half of their teams make the playoffs. If baseball invited eight teams from each league to the playoffs, we'd have at least two more playoff appearances just since 2001 (2001 and 2004). By the way, none of us here have been Cub fans for 97 years, so I can only count since 1977 when I became a Cub fan. That's almost thirty years. Many, many professional teams have gone 30+ years without a World Championship.

 

And the Cubs haven't played for a World Series title since 1945. That's a bad 6 decades, not 3. Longevity plays a big role in this as well.

 

The Toronto Raptors have only been around since 1995 so they don't count. They Devil Rays fall into this as well. The Browns and Lions are bad, but at 42 and 49 years respectively, they still don't compare to the Cubs. The Pirates have won 5 World Series titles since the Cubs won one including 3 since the Cubs have even played in a World Series.[/b]

[jjgman21]

As a whole, the Cubs are the worst organization in the history of sports because of 97 years of futility.Recently the New York Knicks take the crown because Isiah Thomas has completely run the team into the ground. He has bogged the team down with horrible trades that forced the team to take on ungodly bad contracts that nobody else wanted. Because of this they have the highest payroll in the league which managed to get them the second worst record in the league. They didn't have their #2 pick in the draft this year and the Bulls will have the option of switching picks with them next year (which they will do because the Knicks suck and the Bulls don't) which means they don't have much of a chance of drafting a great player that can help them right away. They are likely going to owe Larry Brown a ton of money because they fired him (he had 4/$40 left on his deal). Right now the Knicks are a complete embarassment and there isn't much hope for the next couple years.

 

At least the Cubs have the chance to make some good FA signings and trades to make the team competative next year. The Knicks will be lucky to win 30 games in 2006-07.

 

I have to sell that. Is not winning a world championship the only criteria?

 

My criteria is this: would you rather be a Detroit Lions fan or a Cub fan? Would you rather be a Cleveland Browns fan or a Cub fan? Would you rather be a Tampa Bay Devil Ray fan or a Cub fan? A Pittsburgh Pirate fan of a Cub fan? A Toronto Raptor fan or a Cub fan? I think one is blowing it way out of proportion to call the Cubs the worst organization in sports history. Or either they've forgotten about the Cub history from 1906-1945. History means existence forever, not just the last three decades. You can't really compare playoff appearances with baseball teams as you can hockey or basketball teams since half of their teams make the playoffs. If baseball invited eight teams from each league to the playoffs, we'd have at least two more playoff appearances just since 2001 (2001 and 2004). By the way, none of us here have been Cub fans for 97 years, so I can only count since 1977 when I became a Cub fan. That's almost thirty years. Many, many professional teams have gone 30+ years without a World Championship.

 

And the Cubs haven't played for a World Series title since 1945. That's a bad 6 decades, not 3. Longevity plays a big role in this as well.

 

The Toronto Raptors have only been around since 1995 so they don't count. They Devil Rays fall into this as well. The Browns and Lions are bad, but at 42 and 49 years respectively, they still don't compare to the Cubs. The Pirates have won 5 World Series titles since the Cubs won one including 3 since the Cubs have even played in a World Series.[/b]

 

see my post above about the meaninglessness of this discussion without defining what is meant by "worst."

 

if you want to talk about the past three decades, there are plenty of teams to look at around sports that are much worse than the Cubs. you don't even have to leave baseball. Rangers post season appearances in past 3 decades = 3; Cubs = 4. if you make the list 1.5 to 2 decades, the Cubs are nowhere near the worst in baseball.

 

if you want to talk about baseball history, its' pretty hard to out do the Phillies 90 years of existence with 2 post season appearances before the mid 70's.

 

Cubs post season appearances since the Phillies inception = 16

Phillies = 9; Phillies total post season appearances excluding 1976-1983 = 3

 

of course you would be well served bringing up the Indians if you are a Phillies fan and their 93 year run with 3 post season appearances in 92 years of existence before the mid 90's.

 

 

slice it, dice it, frame it, define organizational success as a failure (ie. attendance, market share, etc), put time restrictions on it, and there is no problem declaring the Cubs the worst organization in sports. don't do these things, and its pretty much a stretch.

[Cubfanintheknow]

I think this may very well be the most irrelevant thread in the history of Northsidebaseball.com.

 

Worst sports organization ever? Who cares?