Official Adam Dunn Strikeout watch

[soccer10k]

He currently has 108 on the season which puts him on pace for 189 on the year. Dunn holds the record with 195. I think with a little luck, or lack thereof, Dunn can break his own record.

 

Note: This is not intended to be a pro- or anti- Adam Dunn thread but one to watch his rising strikeout totals.

[Balsa]

$10 says he breaks it.

[BigSlick]

He currently has 108 on the season which puts him on pace for 189 on the year. Dunn holds the record with 195. I think with a little luck, or lack thereof, Dunn can break his own record.

 

Note: This is not intended to be a pro- or anti- Adam Dunn thread but one to watch his rising strikeout totals.

 

Keep track of his Walks and Home runs too...

 

He's basically playing defense-independent baseball.

[CubsBullsBears]

When Adam Dunn comes to the plate, he's either going to walk, strikeout, or go yard. If he becomes the all-time strikeout leader, it wouldn't be a bad thing.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

When Adam Dunn comes to the plate, he's either going to walk, strikeout, or go yard.

 

How do you explain 6 career triples?

[minnesotacubsfan]

When Adam Dunn comes to the plate, he's either going to walk, strikeout, or go yard.

 

How do you explain 6 career triples?

 

 

going yard, and tripping along the way

[FergieJ31]

He currently has 108 on the season which puts him on pace for 189 on the year. Dunn holds the record with 195. I think with a little luck, or lack thereof, Dunn can break his own record.

 

Note: This is not intended to be a pro- or anti- Adam Dunn thread but one to watch his rising strikeout totals.

 

Keep track of his Walks and Home runs too...

 

He's basically playing defense-independent baseball.

 

I think you guys are on to something - a new stat, we can call it DMAWBS (defense may as well be sleeping):

 

DMAWBS = (BB + SO + HR) / PA

 

Dunn eclipsed the 50% level in 2004: 51.2%

 

So far this year he's on pace to do it again: 50.9%

 

Compare with McGwire, who in '98 had a 56.8% DMAWBS, then a whopping 57.9% in 2000 and 55.5% in '01.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Defense Independent statistics aren't new.

 

 

Wait a second, FergieJ31 is Gary Hughes!!

[FergieJ31]

Defense Independent statistics aren't new.

 

As an offensive stat? I thought it would be obvious DMAWBS was suggested tongue-in-cheek.

 

 

Wait a second, FergieJ31 is Gary Hughes!!

 

Gee, thanks for the flagrant insult.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Defense Independent statistics aren't new.

 

As an offensive stat? I thought it would be obvious DMAWBS was suggested tongue-in-cheek.

 

 

Wait a second, FergieJ31 is Gary Hughes!!

 

Gee, thanks for the flagrant insult.

 

I figured you were kidding, but may not have known that there was actual DI stuff.

 

As for the Hughes comment, I was being tounge-in-cheek as well, referencing the old BA roundtable discussion. Sorry if you were offended, it was just meant to poke fun at Hughes.

[soccer10k]

Dunn needs a couple good 2 or 3 strikeout games to get himself back on record pace.

[CP_414]

He currently has 108 on the season which puts him on pace for 189 on the year. Dunn holds the record with 195. I think with a little luck, or lack thereof, Dunn can break his own record.

 

Note: This is not intended to be a pro- or anti- Adam Dunn thread but one to watch his rising strikeout totals.

 

Keep track of his Walks and Home runs too...

 

He's basically playing defense-independent baseball.

 

I think you guys are on to something - a new stat, we can call it DMAWBS (defense may as well be sleeping):

 

DMAWBS = (BB + SO + HR) / PA

 

Dunn eclipsed the 50% level in 2004: 51.2%

 

So far this year he's on pace to do it again: 50.9%

 

Compare with McGwire, who in '98 had a 56.8% DMAWBS, then a whopping 57.9% in 2000 and 55.5% in '01.

 

Don't forget to include ground rule doubles.

[CubsBullsBears]

He currently has 108 on the season which puts him on pace for 189 on the year. Dunn holds the record with 195. I think with a little luck, or lack thereof, Dunn can break his own record.

 

Note: This is not intended to be a pro- or anti- Adam Dunn thread but one to watch his rising strikeout totals.

 

Keep track of his Walks and Home runs too...

 

He's basically playing defense-independent baseball.

 

I think you guys are on to something - a new stat, we can call it DMAWBS (defense may as well be sleeping):

 

DMAWBS = (BB + SO + HR) / PA

 

Dunn eclipsed the 50% level in 2004: 51.2%

 

So far this year he's on pace to do it again: 50.9%

 

Compare with McGwire, who in '98 had a 56.8% DMAWBS, then a whopping 57.9% in 2000 and 55.5% in '01.

 

Don't forget to include ground rule doubles.

Ground-rule hits can't be included, b/c the defense still goes after the ball.

[CP_414]

He currently has 108 on the season which puts him on pace for 189 on the year. Dunn holds the record with 195. I think with a little luck, or lack thereof, Dunn can break his own record.

 

Note: This is not intended to be a pro- or anti- Adam Dunn thread but one to watch his rising strikeout totals.

 

Keep track of his Walks and Home runs too...

 

He's basically playing defense-independent baseball.

 

I think you guys are on to something - a new stat, we can call it DMAWBS (defense may as well be sleeping):

 

DMAWBS = (BB + SO + HR) / PA

 

Dunn eclipsed the 50% level in 2004: 51.2%

 

So far this year he's on pace to do it again: 50.9%

 

Compare with McGwire, who in '98 had a 56.8% DMAWBS, then a whopping 57.9% in 2000 and 55.5% in '01.

 

Don't forget to include ground rule doubles.

Ground-rule hits can't be included, b/c the defense still goes after the ball.

 

They also go after home runs.

[CubsBullsBears]

He currently has 108 on the season which puts him on pace for 189 on the year. Dunn holds the record with 195. I think with a little luck, or lack thereof, Dunn can break his own record.

 

Note: This is not intended to be a pro- or anti- Adam Dunn thread but one to watch his rising strikeout totals.

 

Keep track of his Walks and Home runs too...

 

He's basically playing defense-independent baseball.

 

I think you guys are on to something - a new stat, we can call it DMAWBS (defense may as well be sleeping):

 

DMAWBS = (BB + SO + HR) / PA

 

Dunn eclipsed the 50% level in 2004: 51.2%

 

So far this year he's on pace to do it again: 50.9%

 

Compare with McGwire, who in '98 had a 56.8% DMAWBS, then a whopping 57.9% in 2000 and 55.5% in '01.

 

Don't forget to include ground rule doubles.

Ground-rule hits can't be included, b/c the defense still goes after the ball.

 

They also go after home runs.

Well if you're going to include ground-rule doubles, you should then exclude inside-the-park home runs. How do you measure for this?? Do they track ground-rule hits, and inside-the-park home runs??

[CP_414]

He currently has 108 on the season which puts him on pace for 189 on the year. Dunn holds the record with 195. I think with a little luck, or lack thereof, Dunn can break his own record.

 

Note: This is not intended to be a pro- or anti- Adam Dunn thread but one to watch his rising strikeout totals.

 

Keep track of his Walks and Home runs too...

 

He's basically playing defense-independent baseball.

 

I think you guys are on to something - a new stat, we can call it DMAWBS (defense may as well be sleeping):

 

DMAWBS = (BB + SO + HR) / PA

 

Dunn eclipsed the 50% level in 2004: 51.2%

 

So far this year he's on pace to do it again: 50.9%

 

Compare with McGwire, who in '98 had a 56.8% DMAWBS, then a whopping 57.9% in 2000 and 55.5% in '01.

 

Don't forget to include ground rule doubles.

Ground-rule hits can't be included, b/c the defense still goes after the ball.

 

They also go after home runs.

Well if you're going to include ground-rule doubles, you should then exclude inside-the-park home runs. How do you measure for this?? Do they track ground-rule hits, and inside-the-park home runs??

 

I don't know if this is a real stat or not, but if it is they should exclude inside-the-park HR's where the defense makes a play on the ball. I have no idea if they keep track of that stuff.

[CubsBullsBears]

He currently has 108 on the season which puts him on pace for 189 on the year. Dunn holds the record with 195. I think with a little luck, or lack thereof, Dunn can break his own record.

 

Note: This is not intended to be a pro- or anti- Adam Dunn thread but one to watch his rising strikeout totals.

 

Keep track of his Walks and Home runs too...

 

He's basically playing defense-independent baseball.

 

I think you guys are on to something - a new stat, we can call it DMAWBS (defense may as well be sleeping):

 

DMAWBS = (BB + SO + HR) / PA

 

Dunn eclipsed the 50% level in 2004: 51.2%

 

So far this year he's on pace to do it again: 50.9%

 

Compare with McGwire, who in '98 had a 56.8% DMAWBS, then a whopping 57.9% in 2000 and 55.5% in '01.

 

Don't forget to include ground rule doubles.

Ground-rule hits can't be included, b/c the defense still goes after the ball.

 

They also go after home runs.

Well if you're going to include ground-rule doubles, you should then exclude inside-the-park home runs. How do you measure for this?? Do they track ground-rule hits, and inside-the-park home runs??

 

I don't know if this is a real stat or not, but if it is they should exclude inside-the-park HR's where the defense makes a play on the ball. I have no idea if they keep track of that stuff.

Well it's not hard to. I mean HR's are kept track of, walks, strikeouts, PA's. The problem is ground-rule hits, and inside-the-park home runs. That would be a good stat to track though how often the defense could sleep on a certian batter.

[FergieJ31]

He currently has 108 on the season which puts him on pace for 189 on the year. Dunn holds the record with 195. I think with a little luck, or lack thereof, Dunn can break his own record.

 

Note: This is not intended to be a pro- or anti- Adam Dunn thread but one to watch his rising strikeout totals.

 

Keep track of his Walks and Home runs too...

 

He's basically playing defense-independent baseball.

 

I think you guys are on to something - a new stat, we can call it DMAWBS (defense may as well be sleeping):

 

DMAWBS = (BB + SO + HR) / PA

 

Dunn eclipsed the 50% level in 2004: 51.2%

 

So far this year he's on pace to do it again: 50.9%

 

Compare with McGwire, who in '98 had a 56.8% DMAWBS, then a whopping 57.9% in 2000 and 55.5% in '01.

 

Don't forget to include ground rule doubles.

 

I also forgot HBP. And another technicality, like in-the-park HR's and GR doubles: some K's require a 1-3 putout.

 

I really intended DMAWBS as nothing but a joke, but it is interesting to see the >50% cases like McGwire and Dunn. The last two instances before Dunn and McGwire were Jack Clark in '87 (DMAWBS 55.6%) and Jim Thome in '01 (54.5%), minimum 500 plate appearances. I was a little surprised Bonds massive '01 year wasn't in the top 5, at only 53.7% (he simply didn't strikeout enough).

 

And TT, yes I'm aware of DI stats and Tango's work, though I'm more familiar with McCracken's DIPS study. I've been following Bill James and sabr since the mid-80's. FWIW, my presumption of everyone on NSBB is that they are generally aware of things like DI stats -- this is a smart crew. And it's never acceptable to "poke fun" at anyone via someone's post unless they are trolling (in which case just ignore the post altogether).

[jjgman21]

I'm a marginal critic, but the man's en fuego.

 

I don't think he's made an out, much less strikeout, the past two games.

[soccer10k]

I'm a marginal critic, but the man's en fuego.

 

I don't think he's made an out, much less strikeout, the past two games.

 

ESPN said he has reached base in 9 straight at bats.

[soccer10k]

And TT, yes I'm aware of DI stats and Tango's work, though I'm more familiar with McCracken's DIPS study. I've been following Bill James and sabr since the mid-80's. FWIW, my presumption of everyone on NSBB is that they are generally aware of things like DI stats -- this is a smart crew. And it's never acceptable to "poke fun" at anyone via someone's post unless they are trolling (in which case just ignore the post altogether).

 

What does DI stand for?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Defense Independent

[soccer10k]

Defense Independent

 

Thanks. That's what I thought but I wanted to be sure.

[soccer10k]

With 11 K's in his last 16 AB's, Dunn now has 127 on the year putting him on pace for 191 K's. I have a good feeling about this year.

 

On a side note, are there any projections out there that project how many K's a player is likely to amass in his career? He's up to 860 in his career and is just 26 (27 going into next season). The record is 2597 by Reggie Jackson. I'm just curious at his chances at the record.

 

EDIT: Reggie had just 780 K's through his first 6 years (he played 35 games in his first year while Dunn played 66) so I figured I would add that comparison.

[jjgman21]

With 11 K's in his last 16 AB's...

 

 

alot of the favor for players with large IsoD is predictability, but also supposed consistency. Dunn is blowing that notion out of the water. he seems as hot and cold as Jacque Jones.