NBA Free Agency/Offseason

[David]

Like Jon, I didn't think the Bulls would get him...let alone for 4 years. Awesome!

 

Apparently, he didn't want more than 4 years. He could get more on a per year basis that way.

 

Plus, there's this whole weird "over-36" clause when it comes to NBA contracts. Unfortunately, I have no idea what it is, but I know that it can complicate contracts quite a bit. 4 years keeps him from hitting that age, I believe.

[Jon]

Another source:

Trib[/url]"]Free agent Ben Wallace has accepted the Bulls' contract offer, a source close to the situation confirmed Monday night.

 

The 6-foot-9-inch center reportedly had an offer from the Pistons that would have paid him an estimated $48 million over four years. A source close to the Bulls confirmed they also had made a four-year offer.

[da bears]

So what does everyone want the Bulls to do now? I kind of like the idea of trading Chandler now just for monetary reasons.

[JC]

The Pistons' window has closed with an impressive "thud". Flip Saunders will now be an even bigger fall guy than he was after the playoffs.

 

How does Larry Brown look now, Mr. Dumars?

[Banedon]

Holy crap.

 

You know, I always thought the 3 pointer against the Suns in the triple OT game in the 93 finals would be Paxson's legacy...but he sure is adding onto that nicely isn't he?? :D

[AI]

I think Ben Wallace is overrated. This signing has to be followed with a Tyson Chandler departure, otherwise we have three forwards who can post awesome lines like this. 5 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 blocks. If we rely too much on perimeter scoring we could be in trouble. The only guy who really gets to the rack is Gordon. I am not nearly as excited about this signing as the rest of you. I think we are going to regret this signing in two or three years when this team is supposed to be really hitting his stride. And if we knew we had this move in our pocket, why take Thomas instead of Brandon Roy?

[ctcf]

I'm pretty pumped we got him to 4 years. Now is the time for a serious playoff run.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I don't follow the NBA as closely as some, but IMO this is a terrible sequence of moves by the Bulls. Their two draft picks(and the guys they gave up to get them) and now Wallace don't do much for me in the least. JMO though.

[Soul]

I think Ben Wallace is overrated. This signing has to be followed with a Tyson Chandler departure, otherwise we have three forwards who can post awesome lines like this. 5 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 blocks. If we rely too much on perimeter scoring we could be in trouble. The only guy who really gets to the rack is Gordon. I am not nearly as excited about this signing as the rest of you. I think we are going to regret this signing in two or three years when this team is supposed to be really hitting his stride. And if we knew we had this move in our pocket, why take Thomas instead of Brandon Roy?

 

Yes, it will be terrible to lose all the scoring we were getting from Chandler.

[Derwood]

The Chandler for PJ Brown rumor was just on ESPNews

 

And yeah, Wallace is SO overrated. I mean what a slacker! Only 4 Defensive Player of the Year awards in 6 years? What's the matter? Couldnt win all 6? What a loser!

[da bears]

The Chandler for PJ Brown rumor was just on ESPNews

 

And yeah, Wallace is SO overrated. I mean what a slacker! Only 4 Defensive Player of the Year awards in 6 years? What's the matter? Couldnt win all 6? What a loser!

 

This is definitely a HUGE downgrade for the Bulls. They'll definitely lose more games than they did last year because of this move. That's definitely not what people are saying here, but on some other message boards people are being idiotic about this.

Edited July 4, 2006 by da bears

[TB_11]

If Paxson swings the rumored Chandler for Brown deal, this signing becomes an even bigger gift for the Bulls. The deal effectively replaces an under-achieving Chandler with a defensive and rebounding monster and still leaves them cap room to resign Hinrich/Gordon/Nocioni/Deng or pursue free agents.

 

Even without the Chandler for Brown deal, I'm surprised people are skeptical of this deal.

[AI]

The Chandler for PJ Brown rumor was just on ESPNews

 

And yeah, Wallace is SO overrated. I mean what a slacker! Only 4 Defensive Player of the Year awards in 6 years? What's the matter? Couldnt win all 6? What a loser!

 

He's an aging one dimensional player. I don't think he's near worth the money. Nice melodramatic overreaction though.

[AI]

I think Ben Wallace is overrated. This signing has to be followed with a Tyson Chandler departure, otherwise we have three forwards who can post awesome lines like this. 5 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 blocks. If we rely too much on perimeter scoring we could be in trouble. The only guy who really gets to the rack is Gordon. I am not nearly as excited about this signing as the rest of you. I think we are going to regret this signing in two or three years when this team is supposed to be really hitting his stride. And if we knew we had this move in our pocket, why take Thomas instead of Brandon Roy?

 

Yes, it will be terrible to lose all the scoring we were getting from Chandler.

 

I never said it would be terrible to lose Chandler. In fact, I think its necessary in light of this signing. I am saying I think we overpaid for him. I just want to know where the scoring around the rim is going to come from. Purely perimeter teams rarely go far in the playoffs.

[RynoRules]

I don't follow the NBA as closely as some, but IMO this is a terrible sequence of moves by the Bulls. Their two draft picks(and the guys they gave up to get them) and now Wallace don't do much for me in the least. JMO though.

 

Nothing personal, but I think you are dead wrong. This sequence has been brilliant, and will be even more so if they manage to dump Chandlers contract and retain cap flexibility for next season. They have set up their frontcourt and permiter for years with youngsters like Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, Noc, and Thomas, and have added much needed veteran toughness inside. Brilliant.

 

EDIT: And they can still get the Knick's no. 1 next year if its higher than there's is. More brilliance.

Edited July 4, 2006 by RynoRules

[RynoRules]

I think Ben Wallace is overrated. This signing has to be followed with a Tyson Chandler departure, otherwise we have three forwards who can post awesome lines like this. 5 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 blocks. If we rely too much on perimeter scoring we could be in trouble. The only guy who really gets to the rack is Gordon. I am not nearly as excited about this signing as the rest of you. I think we are going to regret this signing in two or three years when this team is supposed to be really hitting his stride. And if we knew we had this move in our pocket, why take Thomas instead of Brandon Roy?

 

Yes, it will be terrible to lose all the scoring we were getting from Chandler.

 

I never said it would be terrible to lose Chandler. In fact, I think its necessary in light of this signing. I am saying I think we overpaid for him. I just want to know where the scoring around the rim is going to come from. Purely perimeter teams rarely go far in the playoffs.

 

Yeah, those Mavs and Suns sure did disappoint this year.

[AI]

I think Ben Wallace is overrated. This signing has to be followed with a Tyson Chandler departure, otherwise we have three forwards who can post awesome lines like this. 5 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 blocks. If we rely too much on perimeter scoring we could be in trouble. The only guy who really gets to the rack is Gordon. I am not nearly as excited about this signing as the rest of you. I think we are going to regret this signing in two or three years when this team is supposed to be really hitting his stride. And if we knew we had this move in our pocket, why take Thomas instead of Brandon Roy?

 

Yes, it will be terrible to lose all the scoring we were getting from Chandler.

 

I never said it would be terrible to lose Chandler. In fact, I think its necessary in light of this signing. I am saying I think we overpaid for him. I just want to know where the scoring around the rim is going to come from. Purely perimeter teams rarely go far in the playoffs.

 

Yeah, those Mavs and Suns sure did disappoint this year.

 

The Mavs were an exception and Dirk still did plenty of scoring 12 feet in. The Suns rely as much on transition scoring as they do a perimeter game. They also have Shawn Marion and when Amare Stoudamire returns, they are going to be dumping it inside more often.

[ctcf]

SC just said 60 mil 4 yrs

[cubweiser03]

I dont have a problem with Wallace not having any offensive punch. Of the 4 teams in the conference finals 3 of them ran the high screen roll without an inside post up game. The Bulls can spread the floor and move the ball around with their slashers. The game is moving more towards less post up play.

[RynoRules]

I think Ben Wallace is overrated. This signing has to be followed with a Tyson Chandler departure, otherwise we have three forwards who can post awesome lines like this. 5 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 blocks. If we rely too much on perimeter scoring we could be in trouble. The only guy who really gets to the rack is Gordon. I am not nearly as excited about this signing as the rest of you. I think we are going to regret this signing in two or three years when this team is supposed to be really hitting his stride. And if we knew we had this move in our pocket, why take Thomas instead of Brandon Roy?

 

Yes, it will be terrible to lose all the scoring we were getting from Chandler.

 

I never said it would be terrible to lose Chandler. In fact, I think its necessary in light of this signing. I am saying I think we overpaid for him. I just want to know where the scoring around the rim is going to come from. Purely perimeter teams rarely go far in the playoffs.

 

Yeah, those Mavs and Suns sure did disappoint this year.

 

The Mavs were an exception and Dirk still did plenty of scoring 12 feet in. The Suns rely as much on transition scoring as they do a perimeter game. They also have Shawn Marion and when Amare Stoudamire returns, they are going to be dumping it inside more often.

 

Stoudamire didn't play all year, and even when he does, its not his post moves that get him points; and if you think Dirk ane Marion are a "inside presence" of the ilk you seem to be talking about, then you don't wach much hoops.

[1908]

SC just said 60 mil 4 yrs

I like that a lot less than, 4 years, $52M, but I still like the move. Wallace is a game changer. I can't think of another player outside of Artest that makes such an impact on the defensive end of the floor, and I think he has two, three dominant years left in him. 4 years instead of 5 or 6 makes all the difference.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

It's not that Wallace isn't a great post player, it's that he's just awful on the offensive end. It's pretty much 4 v 5 as long as you don't leave him completely alone near the basket.

[soccer10k]

It's not that Wallace isn't a great post player, it's that he's just awful on the offensive end. It's pretty much 4 v 5 as long as you don't leave him completely alone near the basket.

 

Don't forget his awesome free throw shooting.

[1908]

It's not that Wallace isn't a great post player, it's that he's just awful on the offensive end. It's pretty much 4 v 5 as long as you don't leave him completely alone near the basket.

Don't forget his awesome free throw shooting.

Yeah, and his rebounding and defense too.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

It's not that Wallace isn't a great post player, it's that he's just awful on the offensive end. It's pretty much 4 v 5 as long as you don't leave him completely alone near the basket.

Don't forget his awesome free throw shooting.

Yeah, and his rebounding and defense too.

 

Well yeah, no one is trying to say Wallace is worthless and shouldn't be in the league.