Near midnight for Bakerella?

[srbin84]

You think Speier would take the job knowing he has no shot at it after the season?

 

Very few people will. It's not a guarantee and Speier will know that. It's very difficult to find an interim outside the organization. Those persons will want a more long term guarantee.

 

Speier is the best option for an interim. He can be interviewed along with Gonzalez, Dierker, and any other candidate the Cubs choose to consider.

 

What if he is just as inept as Baker but wins? Do you want Hendry to interview that kind of manager, especially when the person in question is his friend?

 

I have a feeling that no matter who takes the job on interim, they will get at least an interview for the full-time gig. Would you rather Hendry make a snap judgement and not be able to interview all candidates because some candidates are already employed on other clubs?

 

Whether it is Speir or someone else, I'd rather Hendry just tell that person they would be considered after the season just to get them to babysit this mess for the rest of the season. In reality, it would be a flat out lie, but I don't have faith in Hendry to do that, at least with Speir. Furthermore, Hendry probably sees the us as still being in the race, at least for the wild card. I'd expect him to hire his longterm guy now so they can spark the team to a playoff run. That's just how he is probably looking at it.

 

Wow...what integrity you have. I surely hope you never find yourself in a position of authority.

 

If it's really as difficult to find someone to manage the team the rest of the year, you gotta do what you gotta do. It's too bad, but that's business.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

You think Speier would take the job knowing he has no shot at it after the season?

 

Very few people will. It's not a guarantee and Speier will know that. It's very difficult to find an interim outside the organization. Those persons will want a more long term guarantee.

 

Speier is the best option for an interim. He can be interviewed along with Gonzalez, Dierker, and any other candidate the Cubs choose to consider.

 

What if he is just as inept as Baker but wins? Do you want Hendry to interview that kind of manager, especially when the person in question is his friend?

 

I have a feeling that no matter who takes the job on interim, they will get at least an interview for the full-time gig. Would you rather Hendry make a snap judgement and not be able to interview all candidates because some candidates are already employed on other clubs?

 

Whether it is Speir or someone else, I'd rather Hendry just tell that person they would be considered after the season just to get them to babysit this mess for the rest of the season. In reality, it would be a flat out lie, but I don't have faith in Hendry to do that, at least with Speir. Furthermore, Hendry probably sees the us as still being in the race, at least for the wild card. I'd expect him to hire his longterm guy now so they can spark the team to a playoff run. That's just how he is probably looking at it.

 

Wow...what integrity you have. I surely hope you never find yourself in a position of authority.

 

If it's really as difficult to find someone to manage the team the rest of the year, you gotta do what you gotta do. It's too bad, but that's business.

 

No you don't. There's nothing, absolutely nothing, wrong with interviewing and responsibly considering your interim.

 

And it's not business, it's lying and shows a lack of integrity. I repeat my earlier assertion.

[goonys evil twin]

If it's really as difficult to find someone to manage the team the rest of the year, you gotta do what you gotta do. It's too bad, but that's business.

 

It's bad business, and really serves no benefit. Just hire the guy as interim and say you'll evaluate his work after the season, but are planning to interview others.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If it's really as difficult to find someone to manage the team the rest of the year, you gotta do what you gotta do. It's too bad, but that's business.

 

It's bad business, and really serves no benefit. Just hire the guy as interim and say you'll evaluate his work after the season, but are planning to interview others.

 

Sounds like the best course of action to me. Goony has hit the nail on the head.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Evaluating candidates that haven't managed, haven't managed in the NL, or haven't managed in quite some time is impossible for us to do with any accuracy. And the important traits in a manager are very difficult to determine from track record anyway. It's the reasoning behind the decisions, not the decisions themselves.

[biittner77]

I found this quote interesting:

 

No, the Cubs can't hit, pitch or run. But managers are charged with setting the tone and being able to teach and adjust to ever-shifting challenges

 

Wasn't the idea this year to get speedy players that could put pressure on the defense? The Cubs don't hit and run, they don't steal many bases (except for Pierre) and they don't find a way to get on base. Yet Baker's offense seems to have 2 tactics: the sac bunt or wait for someone to hit a HR.

 

I know many here don't believe in the stolen base or the hit and run. That's not even the point. The Cubs either have no plan, they had a plan but scrapped it or they simply don't have what it takes to make it work.

[E.J.]

I found this quote interesting:

 

No, the Cubs can't hit, pitch or run. But managers are charged with setting the tone and being able to teach and adjust to ever-shifting challenges

 

Wasn't the idea this year to get speedy players that could put pressure on the defense? The Cubs don't hit and run, they don't steal many bases (except for Pierre) and they don't find a way to get on base. Yet Baker's offense seems to have 2 tactics: the sac bunt or wait for someone to hit a HR.

 

I know many here don't believe in the stolen base or the hit and run. That's not even the point. The Cubs either have no plan, they had a plan but scrapped it or they simply don't have what it takes to make it work.

 

You forgot one: wait for the other team to commit errors.

[BigbadB]

I found this quote interesting:

 

No, the Cubs can't hit, pitch or run. But managers are charged with setting the tone and being able to teach and adjust to ever-shifting challenges

 

Wasn't the idea this year to get speedy players that could put pressure on the defense? The Cubs don't hit and run, they don't steal many bases (except for Pierre) and they don't find a way to get on base. Yet Baker's offense seems to have 2 tactics: the sac bunt or wait for someone to hit a HR.

 

I know many here don't believe in the stolen base or the hit and run. That's not even the point. The Cubs either have no plan, they had a plan but scrapped it or they simply don't have what it takes to make it work.

 

You need to have guys on base for the hit and run to be effective. You need to have guys on base in order to be quick on the basepaths in general.

 

Fact!

[NCCubFan]

How about Bobby Dickerson as interim manager and Von Joshua as interim hitting coach? They worked together for several years at West Tenn and had success with many of the Cubs' prospects in AA. Maybe some of that success could carry over to the major league level.

[Cubzfan64]

I haven't read this whole thread, so I apologize if my two points have already been discussed:

 

1. If Baker loses his job, I think at least his pitching coach and hitting coach should be gone as well. I hear nothing but bad things about Rothschild and I think Von Joshua should get a shot at the big club as well. If we're going to make a change, let's make it a REAL change.

 

2. That said - I'm really really really concerned with how much Hendry allows the on-field coaches and manager to run the club. What I mean by that is if Baker is let go along with our pitching and hitting coach, will the new manager be allowed to change the overall offensive strategies we've seen the last couple seasons, or will it just be the same story with new folks at the helm?

 

It's clearly evident that changes HAVE to be made to this team and now!! Getting Lee back from his injury isn't going to all of a sudden make us a contender.

 

Other than personal pride, I don't know how a ballplayer goes out there game after game for this team and gives 100%. Whoever is put in charge of this mess had an awful lot to clean up.

[Dirt Dog Sparly]

In reality I dont think this team is giving 100% every game. They are profesionals and know that they dont have the horses to run the race. Which is why Baker needs to go at the end of last year. He is supposed to be a great motivator, but I dont see players going out and going the 100%. I believe that a team will take on the personality of the manager, and that is why we are in this mess now. Meaning this season and playing at the level we are.

 

 

As far as Gonzalez, ask Atl. for permission to talk to him. They can only say yes, no, or yes and if you hire him we get compensation.