Pujols Implicated in the Grimsley deal

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Leyritz admits to amphetamine use

[Soul]

Since it's unlikely that the sources of steroids/HGH limit themselves only to baseball clients, it's really going blow doors when & if this thing starts to leak over into other sports and their superstars.

 

Others have mentioned the NFL. That's the biggie. Hold on to your hats. Romanowski and the BALCO investigation was likely the tip of the iceberg.

 

And once they find out that the "proven, effective" drug policy of the NFL isn't doing diddly squat to stop steroid abuse, you're really going to see some crap flying. Most notably from Washington D.C.

[Chocolate Milk]

I just came up with a great nickname for Pujols!!!!

 

Roidjols!!!!!

 

Let me know what you think.

[mul21]

I just came up with a great nickname for Pujols!!!!

 

Roidjols!!!!!

 

Let me know what you think.

 

That could have a couple of connotations depending on how you look at it!!!

[reggiemiller rules]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

[Ding Dong Johnson]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

 

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended.

[Banedon]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

 

Well yeah, but he's covering his own butt here too.

[CubRock2]

It's sad that we have no way to believe anyone. MLB needs HGH testing now!

 

Dan Patrick/Keith Olberman also just mentioned something else: Milfield (trainer) was also Pujols' college baseball coach, who got him his scholarship there. Milfield's sister describes the two of them as "soulbrothers." Also mentioned an SI article where Pujols mentioned contacting Milfield the day after the Cards got beat by the Stros to get training again.

 

Again, we're just speculating, but just thought I'd give more information that I heard. I'm not a Cards/Pujols apologist at all, as some defending Pujols and actually using reason have been accused of. All gossip, at this point.

[Big Fergie J]

Barry Bonds & Greg Anderson = Albert Pujols & Chris Mihlfeld

 

The way things work these days I will let anyone jump to their own conclusions.

[CubRock2]

Was Greg Anderson convicted of anything? I don't remember exactly what happened with him. Mihlfield hasn't been convicted of a thing, and isn't mentioned in the affidavit. He trained Grimsley, but Grimsley could have gotten drugs anywhere. Sure, It could have been Mihlfield, and I wouldn't be suprised, but that doesn't necessarily convict the guy, either.

[CubRock2]

Oh, and Grimsley's brother runs a supplement/drug store.

 

Better connection?

 

Olberman is doing a story with an interview (didn't mention with whom) tonight on countdown.

[Big Fergie J]

Was Greg Anderson convicted of anything? I don't remember exactly what happened with him. Mihlfield hasn't been convicted of a thing, and isn't mentioned in the affidavit. He trained Grimsley, but Grimsley could have gotten drugs anywhere. Sure, It could have been Mihlfield, and I wouldn't be suprised, but that doesn't necessarily convict the guy, either.

 

Greg Anderson did 3 months in prison and,IIRC, 3 months house arrest.

 

You are correct in stating that Mihfled has not been accussed of anything and of course Grimsley could have got his drugs from anywhere, possibly his brother but obviously there are quite a few ways.

 

I'm just saying that they way the over-hyped 24/7 sports media works (read: jumps to quick conclusions) this will be a common reaction.

[beer_man]

So they said Chris Mihlfield was the name in the affidavit but since now he is denying that in the article, which is easy to prove one way or the other, this was all a waste of time...

[beer_man]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

 

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended.

 

this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly.

[Big Fergie J]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

 

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended.

 

this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly.

 

That's not exaclty a scientific conclusion you have come up with. If by his denial you believe people will just stop digging into him and his relatioship with Pujols you are wrong.

[Soul]

I just came up with a great nickname for Pujols!!!!

 

Roidjols!!!!!

 

Let me know what you think.

 

That could have a couple of connotations depending on how you look at it!!!

 

poojuice.

[Banedon]

I just came up with a great nickname for Pujols!!!!

 

Roidjols!!!!!

 

Let me know what you think.

 

That could have a couple of connotations depending on how you look at it!!!

 

poojuice.

 

For the sake of the mods, please don't use this one...funny though it may be.... :P

[beer_man]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

 

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended.

 

this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly.

 

That's not exaclty a scientific conclusion you have come up with. If by his denial you believe people will just stop digging into him and his relatioship with Pujols you are wrong.

 

Deadspins article was even less of a scientific conclusion, but here we are...

it is really simple...either it is his name listed or it isn't, right? If his name is not there and he says it is not isn't that enough? We know the name that is there will come out, hopefully soon, so it makes no sense for him to say his name is not there if it really is...

 

Mike Sweeney was just on the radio as well (Mihlfield was his trainer as well) and said this about Mihfield and Albert.

 

"I would bet every last penny that they are not guilty of any wrong doing."

[ManEatingTarp]

I'm not ashamed at all to say I hope it's true. I've already come to grips that my second favorite player of all time juiced. It would be nice if the player I despise also juiced as well.

 

Neifi is on the juice?

[scs_paradise]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

 

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended.

 

this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly.

 

That's not exaclty a scientific conclusion you have come up with. If by his denial you believe people will just stop digging into him and his relatioship with Pujols you are wrong.

 

Deadspins article was even less of a scientific conclusion, but here we are...

it is really simple...either it is his name listed or it isn't, right? If his name is not there and he says it is not isn't that enough? We know the name that is there will come out, hopefully soon, so it makes no sense for him to say his name is not there if it really is...

 

Mike Sweeney was just on the radio as well (Mihlfield was his trainer as well) and said this about Mihfield and Albert.

 

"I would bet every last penny that they are not guilty of any wrong doing."

 

I believe Sweeney is suspected of having the same "relationship" with mihlfield, so that doesn't surprise me that Rafael Sweeney would say that.

[beer_man]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

 

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended.

 

this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly.

 

That's not exaclty a scientific conclusion you have come up with. If by his denial you believe people will just stop digging into him and his relatioship with Pujols you are wrong.

 

by the way, I hope people dig all they want. I have no problem with that. But this is not that. This is a site saying a persons name is on an affidavit and the other person saying it is not at all. This will be proved either way. This is about a site posting a rumor and people jumping all aboard with no proof whatsoever...and then if his name is not there it doesn't matter because the damage is done...

[wondernorm]

Take the WADA-approved HGH test(and to Cards apologists-there is a reliable HGH test) in Downers Grove.

 

WADA-approved means nothing. A 99% false positive rate would be good enough for them, so long as they got the 1 out of 100 that was doping.

[scs_paradise]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

 

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended.

 

this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly.

 

That's not exaclty a scientific conclusion you have come up with. If by his denial you believe people will just stop digging into him and his relatioship with Pujols you are wrong.

 

by the way, I hope people dig all they want. I have no problem with that. But this is not that. This is a site saying a persons name is on an affidavit and the other person saying it is not at all. This will be proved either way. This is about a site posting a rumor and people jumping all aboard with no proof whatsoever...and then if his name is not there it doesn't matter because the damage is done...

 

wait, you are saying that Mihlfield said his name isn't in the affidavit? How would he know? he didn't give the affidavit, and I doubt the authorities would come to him to reassure him that he wasn't named...so who cares what the trainer said? If I'm misunderstanding you then please explain who said that Mihlfield isn't in it, unless its Grimsley or the authorities, I wouldn't buy it.

[beer_man]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

 

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended.

 

this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly.

 

That's not exaclty a scientific conclusion you have come up with. If by his denial you believe people will just stop digging into him and his relatioship with Pujols you are wrong.

 

Deadspins article was even less of a scientific conclusion, but here we are...

it is really simple...either it is his name listed or it isn't, right? If his name is not there and he says it is not isn't that enough? We know the name that is there will come out, hopefully soon, so it makes no sense for him to say his name is not there if it really is...

 

Mike Sweeney was just on the radio as well (Mihlfield was his trainer as well) and said this about Mihfield and Albert.

 

"I would bet every last penny that they are not guilty of any wrong doing."

 

I believe Sweeney is suspected of having the same "relationship" with mihlfield, so that doesn't surprise me that Rafael Sweeney would say that.

 

so what you are saying is you can not win? If they didn't deny it it proves they are guilty, but if people do stand up and deny something right away that doesn't prove anything either? Well you are right it doesn't prove anything at all. Neither does the article deadspin wrote...so why are people so quick to believe a rumor on a website? better "news" I guess...

[wondernorm]

The trainer came out today on Pujols behalf claiming the he is clean. Here is the link http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14781295.htm

 

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended.

 

this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly.

 

That's not exaclty a scientific conclusion you have come up with. If by his denial you believe people will just stop digging into him and his relatioship with Pujols you are wrong.

 

by the way, I hope people dig all they want. I have no problem with that. But this is not that. This is a site saying a persons name is on an affidavit and the other person saying it is not at all. This will be proved either way. This is about a site posting a rumor and people jumping all aboard with no proof whatsoever...and then if his name is not there it doesn't matter because the damage is done...

 

wait, you are saying that Mihlfield said his name isn't in the affidavit? How would he know? he didn't give the affidavit, and I doubt the authorities would come to him to reassure him that he wasn't named...so who cares what the trainer said? If I'm misunderstanding you then please explain who said that Mihlfield isn't in it, unless its Grimsley or the authorities, I wouldn't buy it.

 

Mihlfeld said that Grimsley and his attorney assured him his name was not in the affidavit.