Back up the truck

[CubbieRich]

This team isn’t going anywhere. Hendry has the chance to unload some veterans and money to teams that will still be in the race by July 31st. My plan would be to get the best prospects we can and I think we could do that. I would sweeten any deal with young pitching, if that is the hangup. The only established power hitter I want is Adam Dunn.

 

• ARam to the Reds for Adam Dunn (or)

• ARam and Todd Walker to the Indians for Brandon Webb(3rd) and Brad Snyder(OF)

• Kerry Wood and Matt Murton to the D’Backs for

Stephen Drew(SS), Carlos Quentin(OF) and Carlos Gonzalez(OF).

• Juan Pierre, Roberto Novoa and Will Ohman to the White Sox for Josh Fields(3rd) and Jerry Owen(OF)

• Greg Maddux and Rich Hill to the Dodgers for Scott Elbert(P) and Russ Martin©.

• Neifi Perez to the A’s for anything.

 

That means:

 

1B-DLee

2nd-Womack/Cedeno/Bynum

SS-Cedeno or Stephen Drew

3rd-Josh Fields or Brandon Wood

LF-Dunn/Carlos Quentin/Brad Snyder

CF-Felix Pie

RF-Jones/Pagan/Carlos Gonzalez

[Sammy Sofa]

What if the Cubs could somehow magically get Pujols? Would you implode?

[cubfan1954]

"ARam and Todd Walker to the Indians for Brandon Webb(3rd) and Brad Snyder(OF)" Brandon Webb is on Arizona, and is a Cy Young type pitcher. The Indians third base propect is Andy Marte, who is hitting 257 in Buffalo and does not look ready for the majors.

[Balsa]

Can we lock these threads until at least the end of June? I mean seriously, Hendry isn't going to blow up the team this early, and he'll want to wait for teams to get closer to the trading deadline.

[NCCubFan]

Can we lock these threads until at least the end of June? I mean seriously, Hendry isn't going to blow up the team this early, and he'll want to wait for teams to get closer to the trading deadline.

No. Just because there's very little chance of any significant moves being made until closer to the trading deadline doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to discuss moves they'd like to see made. If you don't like these threads feel free to skip them.

[Guest]

This team isn’t going anywhere. Hendry has the chance to unload some veterans and money to teams that will still be in the race by July 31st. My plan would be to get the best prospects we can and I think we could do that. I would sweeten any deal with young pitching, if that is the hangup. The only established power hitter I want is Adam Dunn.

 

• ARam to the Reds for Adam Dunn (or)

• ARam and Todd Walker to the Indians for Brandon Webb(3rd) and Brad Snyder(OF)

• Kerry Wood and Matt Murton to the D’Backs for

Stephen Drew(SS), Carlos Quentin(OF) and Carlos Gonzalez(OF).

• Juan Pierre, Roberto Novoa and Will Ohman to the White Sox for Josh Fields(3rd) and Jerry Owen(OF)

• Greg Maddux and Rich Hill to the Dodgers for Scott Elbert(P) and Russ Martin©.

• Neifi Perez to the A’s for anything.

 

That means:

 

1B-DLee

2nd-Womack/Cedeno/Bynum

SS-Cedeno or Stephen Drew

3rd-Josh Fields or Brandon Wood

LF-Dunn/Carlos Quentin/Brad Snyder

CF-Felix Pie

RF-Jones/Pagan/Carlos Gonzalez

1) the reds have encarnacion, whom they (and most) are very high on. I don't think this trade would interest them at all If they move Dunn, it will be for pitching.

2) Brandon Webb?!? And Snyder's not all that.

3) There is no way that AZ would even begin to consider this.

4) JP to the sox is probably the most realistic suggestion here, but do the Sox really need two average bullpen guys?

5) Why do the Dodgers do this?

6) If you had said Walker...I might have believed it. Perez doesn't strike me as a Beane-type of player.

 

 

I love to have fun with these types of things, but I just don't think your scenarios are very realistic.

[RynoRules]

None of those are likely to happen anywhere...with the exception of your PS2.

[USSoccer]

I'd rather not trade Aramis and make an already bad offense even worse.

 

Also, rebuilding is something that I don't trust Hendry and Co. to do properly. We don't exactly have much luck at properly developing position players.

 

I have no problem trading off the peripheral/role players we have. Walker, Williamson, Pierre should all be moved if we're not in a race by July 1st.

[goonys evil twin]

I don't agree with the backup the truck philosophy with this team. It would not be difficult to make the 2007 team a real contender. The window is closing, but it's not yet closed. Hendry and Baker have screwed up this opportunity so far, but as long as they are both still here there is no reason to think about an overhaul. They couldn't get it right anyway. Might as well stick with the best players and try to add a good difference maker or two, and take their chances.

 

Unlike the vast majority of teams the Cubs have the financial resources to make significant upgrades without dumping all their current studs.

[Banedon]

I'll admit that I once agreed with the "back up the truck" philosophy, but I've since re-thought it. I still think pretty much all management needs to go, but we still have players that are worth holding onto.

[Backtobanks]

I'd rather not trade Aramis and make an already bad offense even worse.

Also, rebuilding is something that I don't trust Hendry and Co. to do properly. We don't exactly have much luck at properly developing position players.

 

I have no problem trading off the peripheral/role players we have. Walker, Williamson, Pierre should all be moved if we're not in a race by July 1st.

 

Aram has had some problems this year, but is showing signs of coming out of it. A lot of people forget that Aram is still young and if possible should be one of the cornerstones of a "young" team. Of course, if the Cubs could get Cabrera or Arod, then trading Aram might make some sense. I can't believe that Hendry would back up the truck totally and go into a rebuilding mode. I don't think the Tribune is ready for a 2-3 year rebuilding program while the White Sox are in contention for the World Series.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'd rather not trade Aramis and make an already bad offense even worse.

Also, rebuilding is something that I don't trust Hendry and Co. to do properly. We don't exactly have much luck at properly developing position players.

 

I have no problem trading off the peripheral/role players we have. Walker, Williamson, Pierre should all be moved if we're not in a race by July 1st.

 

Aram has had some problems this year, but is showing signs of coming out of it. A lot of people forget that Aram is still young and if possible should be one of the cornerstones of a "young" team. Of course, if the Cubs could get Cabrera or Arod, then trading Aram might make some sense. I can't believe that Hendry would back up the truck totally and go into a rebuilding mode. I don't think the Tribune is ready for a 2-3 year rebuilding program while the White Sox are in contention for the World Series.

 

I'll take it a step further and say that if the Cubs could acquire one or the other, they should do whatever it takes to keep Aramis too. Cabrera in LF or ARod at SS with Aramis at 3B looks pretty darn good to me.

[Sammy Sofa]

There's no way you get Cabrera by trading Aramis, and there's no way the Yanks trade A-Rod without potentially filling his hitting and fielding at 3B. I like Aramis, but he's too inconsistent when he's not behind or surrounded by big hitters. I'd much rather see Aramis used to pick up A-Rod and then Carlos Lee picked up if there's any truth to him saying he wants to play in Chicago again. On top of that, if there was any way the Cubs could get Craig Wilson, I'd be all for it. The two Lees, A-Rod, Wilson, Barrett and Walker...that's some hittin'.

[Shavo]

THE YANKEES WILL NOT TRADE AROD!!!

[daske17]

There's no way you get Cabrera by trading Aramis, and there's no way the Yanks trade A-Rod without potentially filling his hitting and fielding at 3B. I like Aramis, but he's too inconsistent when he's not behind or surrounded by big hitters. I'd much rather see Aramis used to pick up A-Rod and then Carlos Lee picked up if there's any truth to him saying he wants to play in Chicago again. On top of that, if there was any way the Cubs could get Craig Wilson, I'd be all for it. The two Lees, A-Rod, Wilson, Barrett and Walker...that's some hittin'.

 

For what it's worth, I met Carlos Lee at the Milwaukee Art Museum over the weekend and told him that the Cubs may need a left fielder next year. He just smiled. Of course, the Brewers PR person sitting next to him was not amused with my comment, but why would she be?

[matt-o-meter19]

This team isn’t going anywhere. Hendry has the chance to unload some veterans and money to teams that will still be in the race by July 31st. My plan would be to get the best prospects we can and I think we could do that. I would sweeten any deal with young pitching, if that is the hangup. The only established power hitter I want is Adam Dunn.

 

• ARam to the Reds for Adam Dunn (or)

• ARam and Todd Walker to the Indians for Brandon Webb(3rd) and Brad Snyder(OF)

• Kerry Wood and Matt Murton to the D’Backs for

Stephen Drew(SS), Carlos Quentin(OF) and Carlos Gonzalez(OF).

• Juan Pierre, Roberto Novoa and Will Ohman to the White Sox for Josh Fields(3rd) and Jerry Owen(OF)

• Greg Maddux and Rich Hill to the Dodgers for Scott Elbert(P) and Russ Martin©.

• Neifi Perez to the A’s for anything.

 

That means:

 

1B-DLee

2nd-Womack/Cedeno/Bynum

SS-Cedeno or Stephen Drew

3rd-Josh Fields or Brandon Wood

LF-Dunn/Carlos Quentin/Brad Snyder

CF-Felix Pie

RF-Jones/Pagan/Carlos Gonzalez

 

This team isn't going anywhere? We just won 4 out of 6 games! Haven't you heard about the 2005 Astros? Come on, dude! :wink:

 

Actually - if the Cubs win 2 of each 3 game series the rest of the year and split every 4 games series they will win 88 games, which IMHO will NOT be enough to do anything!

[Sammy Sofa]

THE YANKEES WILL NOT TRADE AROD!!!

 

Why not? Steinbrenner isn't running the Cubs...he wants to win. If trading A-Rod can do that, I don't see why it wouldn't happen. He's not a Yankee institution...people barely tolerate him up there at this point.

[Sammy Sofa]

There's no way you get Cabrera by trading Aramis, and there's no way the Yanks trade A-Rod without potentially filling his hitting and fielding at 3B. I like Aramis, but he's too inconsistent when he's not behind or surrounded by big hitters. I'd much rather see Aramis used to pick up A-Rod and then Carlos Lee picked up if there's any truth to him saying he wants to play in Chicago again. On top of that, if there was any way the Cubs could get Craig Wilson, I'd be all for it. The two Lees, A-Rod, Wilson, Barrett and Walker...that's some hittin'.

 

For what it's worth, I met Carlos Lee at the Milwaukee Art Museum over the weekend and told him that the Cubs may need a left fielder next year. He just smiled. Of course, the Brewers PR person sitting next to him was not amused with my comment, but why would she be?

 

So much of me thinks he's just trying to get the Beer Boys to shell out more cash, but if there's a shred of truth to it, Hendry better put down the doughnut and get the offers out there.

[NorthsideAvenger]

As frustrating as May was, the Cubs are starting to show signs that they might have a run left. With the Cubs left for dead, this is where Dusty does his best "managing" (if you will). He preference either veterans teams, or teams that people don't give much chance to, so that he can play Captain Underdog. The Cubs have won two series in a row, with one of those series in St. Louis :shock: . And should they take the series with Houston, I say a run is near.

 

So, it's always fun to speculate what the Cubs could get for the veterans on this team, but right now, it's about month too early too really talk about "worrying about 2007." But let the speculation continues.....

[YearofDaCubs]

This organization in the past has made it clear they don'y like dealing w/ high priced contracts ie. Sosa, why in the world would they even attempt to end up with a huge contract like ARod's? It won't happen.

[Sammy Sofa]

This organization in the past has made it clear they don'y like dealing w/ high priced contracts ie. Sosa, why in the world would they even attempt to end up with a huge contract like ARod's? It won't happen.

 

Because their way has resulted in the exact opposite of success with the exception of a single season.

[goonys evil twin]

This organization in the past has made it clear they don'y like dealing w/ high priced contracts ie. Sosa, why in the world would they even attempt to end up with a huge contract like ARod's? It won't happen.

 

This organization has also shown a willingness to employ the highest paid player in the game (Sandberg) and one of the top 3 (Sosa). They've also given longterm deals to Ramirez (guaranteed 4 years, could guarantee a 5th with an easy to achieve games played incentive), and Lee (guaranteed 5 years). ARod's deal runs through 2010 (same as Lee), and much of it is being paid by Texas. It is quite possible that the Yankees could pick up a further portion of the deal if New York does decide to trade Rodriguez. They wouldn't be taking on a 10 year $252 million deal, they'd be taking on a 4.5 year deal that would conceivably be split by 3 different teams (Texas, Yankees, Cubs).

[Soul]

This organization in the past has made it clear they don'y like dealing w/ high priced contracts ie. Sosa, why in the world would they even attempt to end up with a huge contract like ARod's? It won't happen.

 

This organization has also shown a willingness to employ the highest paid player in the game (Sandberg) and one of the top 3 (Sosa). They've also given longterm deals to Ramirez (guaranteed 4 years, could guarantee a 5th with an easy to achieve games played incentive), and Lee (guaranteed 5 years). ARod's deal runs through 2010 (same as Lee), and much of it is being paid by Texas. It is quite possible that the Yankees could pick up a further portion of the deal if New York does decide to trade Rodriguez. They wouldn't be taking on a 10 year $252 million deal, they'd be taking on a 4.5 year deal that would conceivably be split by 3 different teams (Texas, Yankees, Cubs).

 

Yes, but who would we give to get such a player? The cuboard is bare, my friend. The lunchbox is empty. The well.......she's gone dry.

 

ARod wouldn't make sense if you're giving up Lee. That's just trading one star for another. It doesn't really get you anywhere.

 

Prior & Wood? Not anymore----maybe 2 years ago. Zambrano? Maybe, but he's the only solid starter left!!!

[Sammy Sofa]

ARod wouldn't make sense if you're giving up Lee. That's just trading one star for another. It doesn't really get you anywhere.

 

Who has brought up getting rid of Lee or trading him for A-Rod? Everyone's brought up Aramis in that trade...in my case, packaged with Wood, Jones and a reliever. Aramis benefist NY because he's showing he needs to be behind or surrounded by big hitters to pound the ball. Bam, easily done in NY. He also replaces A-Rod at 3rd. They need a starter, they need the OF help, and they need the bullpen help, badly. I think A-Rod would thrive on a team like the Cubs, where there are very few superstar players compared to the Yankees. He's much more consistent than Aramis, would be able to carry on offensively if Lee gets hurt, and misses little time himself.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

There's no way you get Cabrera by trading Aramis, and there's no way the Yanks trade A-Rod without potentially filling his hitting and fielding at 3B. I like Aramis, but he's too inconsistent when he's not behind or surrounded by big hitters. I'd much rather see Aramis used to pick up A-Rod and then Carlos Lee picked up if there's any truth to him saying he wants to play in Chicago again. On top of that, if there was any way the Cubs could get Craig Wilson, I'd be all for it. The two Lees, A-Rod, Wilson, Barrett and Walker...that's some hittin'.

 

For what it's worth, I met Carlos Lee at the Milwaukee Art Museum over the weekend and told him that the Cubs may need a left fielder next year. He just smiled. Of course, the Brewers PR person sitting next to him was not amused with my comment, but why would she be?

 

You should have told her we need a revamping of the entire Cub management and we might like her services too! I bet that would have put a smile on her face. Ditch the Brew Crew for Cubbie blue.