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If the injuries have nothing to do with it, how could we be doing so well until Lee's injury and then just collapse. We were executing scoring quite a few runs etc. before his injury and now it's as if there is no heart anymore. Almost like Derrek Lee was the heart of the Cubs and until we have heart replacement surgery we are f(@#$#d

 

it was 20 games even the devil rays play well for 20 game streaks...and we were still in 4th or 5th place and only 3 games over .500!

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If the injuries have nothing to do with it, how could we be doing so well until Lee's injury and then just collapse. We were executing scoring quite a few runs etc. before his injury and now it's as if there is no heart anymore. Almost like Derrek Lee was the heart of the Cubs and until we have heart replacement surgery we are f(@#$#d

 

How could one player make that big of a difference? He doesn't. It's not a matter of heart or execution. It's a matter of the players who swing bats for the Cubs not being very good. The Cubs had a few good games with Lee there, but they also had their fair share of stinkers at the plate. The day before he was injured they were shut down by the routinely mediocre Lowe, they had a really bad game against Duke in Pittsburgh. They also scored 2, 4 and 3 runs against, very ugly. The perception that the offense was rolling with Lee is based on the first few games. They've been able to rack up high run totals in the past as well. But in the long run, this lineup has not produced much for years. I don't think Lee could make a lick of difference in games they lose by 6, 8, or 14 runs. And again, look at the whole lineup. It's not like guys fell apart when Lee left. Aramis, Pierre, Jones, Neifi and the rest of the bench were bad when Lee was healthy. They've just stayed bad. Cedeno, Murton and Walker have cooled since Lee left, but they aren't underperforming expectations. You can't blame their production on Lee being gone.

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Some people actually predicted that the Cubs would have a hard time scoring runs this year.

 

The problems we are seeing this year are the same problems of last year and the year before. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it.

 

I wonder why Hendry doesn't see it though.

 

And that problem is not injuries.

 

Clearly not true Cubs fans

 

No, mostly the people who are just here for the chicken wings.

 

My gut is telling me that the Cubs will have a hard time scoring runs even when Derrek Lee gets back, but my gut is also very hungry.

 

Did somebody say there were going to be chicken wings?

 

Of course they will, DLee isn't going to come back and poof, everyone starts hitting.

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and as far as injuries go i believe he was talking about the last few years. in my mind the problem is not the injuries but the fact that hednry has built our offense completely around a few players. we are so dependent on lee and aram this year that when one goes down..it catastrophe! last year the cards lost rolen,sanders and edmonds for a while and still ran away with it!

this year they already lost bigby...pujols,edmonds and rolen have missed several games but they are still playing .750 ball!

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Like it or not, you are Cub fans for life. There's no escape. Mwahahah.
Being a Cub fan is like Hotel California. You can check out anytime you want, but you can never leave.
The Boston Braves in 1914 were FIFTEEN games under .500 on the 4th of July and in last place in the NL.

 

They won the NL by 10.5 games.

And they went on to win the World Series.
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Like it or not, you are Cub fans for life. There's no escape. Mwahahah.
Being a Cub fan is like Hotel California. You can check out anytime you want, but you can never leave

 

We are all just prisoners here of our own device

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My gut is telling me that the Cubs will have a hard time scoring runs even when Derrek Lee gets back, but my gut is also very hungry.

 

Did somebody say there were going to be chicken wings?

 

Of course they will, DLee isn't going to come back and poof, everyone starts hitting.

 

I mostly just said it to throw in an Arrested Development quote, and then make a joke about chicken wings. Neither was very funny.

 

I'm the only person unfunny enough to take the humor out of AD. :)

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My gut is telling me that the Cubs will have a hard time scoring runs even when Derrek Lee gets back, but my gut is also very hungry.

 

Did somebody say there were going to be chicken wings?

 

Of course they will, DLee isn't going to come back and poof, everyone starts hitting.

 

I mostly just said it to throw in an Arrested Development quote, and then make a joke about chicken wings. Neither was very funny.

 

I'm the only person unfunny enough to take the humor out of AD. :)

i enjoyed it.

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and as far as injuries go i believe he was talking about the last few years. in my mind the problem is not the injuries but the fact that hednry has built our offense completely around a few players. we are so dependent on lee and aram this year that when one goes down..it catastrophe! last year the cards lost rolen,sanders and edmonds for a while and still ran away with it!

this year they already lost bigby...pujols,edmonds and rolen have missed several games but they are still playing .750 ball!

 

Every team is built around just a few players. Good teams overcome injuries.

 

That said, these guys couldn't score if they walked into a women's prison with a briefcase full of pardons.

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I wish I had some sort of hope for this season, but I had very little before the year began, and even less now.

 

We were a 3rd place team when the season opened. Our offense is putrid WITH Lee, despite most everyone getting a nice start to the season, and it will be horrid without him.

 

We are, essentially, a two-hitter offense. It's totally true that there are lots of 2-hitter lineups out there, but few, if any of them, are true world series front runners. And on top of that, as many of us cautioned last winter, one of our two has a history of nagging injuries costing him weeks at a time (Ramirez). We took a team that couldn't pitch or hit last year and improved the bullpen. Wow.

 

We signed Juan "Swinging Bunt" Pierre and Jaque Jones (if there is a more Hendry-esque player, I'd like to see him).

 

And much frustration isn't based just upon this past offseason. the Cubs have done precious little to actually improve the team in 3 years. It's like they keep praying for lightning in a bottle but spend like they're getting all stars. They get on a different kick each offseason (first veteran presence, then power, then character, then "guys who can catch the ball") to the point where we have a hodge-podge team with no real "plan" as to how it's built.

 

Hendry seems to be a "trend" GM. He has a new theme every year rather than settling on a philosophy and working each year until he gets it right. It leads us to where we are now...a middle of the pack team with a front of the pack payroll and increasingly frustrated fan base.

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this year they already lost bigby...pujols,edmonds and rolen have missed several games but they are still playing .750 ball!

 

oh no, not larry bigbie!

 

and it's not like pujols hasn't been carrying the entire team himself. that team is not near the record they have now if he isn't playing out of his mind. by the way, pujols has missed one game. one.

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