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I'll feel for them when they trade us Jason Bay and Craig Wilson for Jaque Jones Freddie Bynum, and some mid-level pitching prospect.

:roll:

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I'll feel for them when they trade us Jason Bay and Craig Wilson for Jaque Jones Freddie Bynum, and some mid-level pitching prospect.

:roll:

You're right.

 

 

 

Pittsburgh could never afford Jacque's contract. It'd be more like Bynum, Pagan, and a mid level prospect for Bay and Wilson.

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Any of you hoping for another Aramis trade really have no clue as to why we did it.

 

 

I think it is pretty clear you did it so that 3 years later (2006) you would be ready to make a serious run.......

 

 

 

 

at the worst record in modern baseball history.

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Any of you hoping for another Aramis trade really have no clue as to why we did it.

 

perhaps there's a contest one of us can win, allowing us to become GM/owner for a day, and we can sign a bunch of bad contracts, forcing you to unload dead weight like bay ;)

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Any of you hoping for another Aramis trade really have no clue as to why we did it.

 

To really torque us Cardinal fans?? :lol:

Posted
Any of you hoping for another Aramis trade really have no clue as to why we did it.

 

To really torque us Cardinal fans?? :lol:

 

You guys got Rolen in a similar way.

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Any of you hoping for another Aramis trade really have no clue as to why we did it.

 

To really torque us Cardinal fans?? :lol:

 

You guys got Rolen in a similar way.

 

True. But the Cards DID give up a legitimate player in Polanco. But you're right........ very similar.

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Any of you hoping for another Aramis trade really have no clue as to why we did it.

 

To really torque us Cardinal fans?? :lol:

 

You guys got Rolen in a similar way.

 

The Phillies at least got some serviceable players in Timlin and Polanco. Unlike the Pirates who got nothing of value

Posted
Any of you hoping for another Aramis trade really have no clue as to why we did it.

 

To really torque us Cardinal fans?? :lol:

 

You guys got Rolen in a similar way.

 

The Phillies at least got some serviceable players in Timlin and Polanco. Unlike the Pirates who got nothing of value

 

That's absolutely not true. They got... oh yeah, you're right. :lol:

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Any of you hoping for another Aramis trade really have no clue as to why we did it.

 

To really torque us Cardinal fans?? :lol:

 

You guys got Rolen in a similar way.

 

The Phillies at least got some serviceable players in Timlin and Polanco. Unlike the Pirates who got nothing of value

Yes we did (if I'm to believe everything I've read):

 

Solvency.

 

Really. I'm not making this up.

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Any of you hoping for another Aramis trade really have no clue as to why we did it.

 

To really torque us Cardinal fans?? :lol:

 

You guys got Rolen in a similar way.

 

The Phillies at least got some serviceable players in Timlin and Polanco. Unlike the Pirates who got nothing of value

 

Rolen was also valued far more at the time than Ramirez was.

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You traded ARam because nobody would take Kris Benson's ridiculous contract/crappy pitching and you guys couldn't afford to pay everyone.

 

Benson went on the DL as I recall, making a trade impossible.

Supposedly Benson was all but traded, but then he got hurt. The Aram deal had to be thrown together very quickly afterwards.

 

The real culprit allegedly was that PNC park was $30 Million over budget, from the Pirates perspective. We had paper due towards this debt and had to pay it.

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