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Wow, Greg "Home Run" Maddux, Neifi and Blanco in the lineup? Maybe I'll just skip the whole game. This could get real ugly.

 

I'll see/hear about an hour of it, but that's it.

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Just to let everybody know, the Score 670 was saying that Neifi is starting at 2nd tomorrow, and yes he IS batting 2nd. Dusty hasnt learned a damn thing. So much for trying to utilize Pierres speed cause when Perez swings at the first pitch and hits into another one of his dp's it Juans speed wont matter. Dusty, do you know what the hell OBP is? :twisted:
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Neifi might not have been a great second baseman last year, but he was arguably the best defenseive SS in the league last year. Good range, got fielding percentage, few errors.

 

Derrek Leon Lee. 'nuff said.

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Wow, Greg "Home Run" Maddux, Neifi and Blanco in the lineup? Maybe I'll just skip the whole game. This could get real ugly.

 

I'll see/hear about an hour of it, but that's it.

 

Wind blowing in hard I believe.

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Just to let everybody know, the Score 670 was saying that Neifi is starting at 2nd tomorrow, and yes he IS batting 2nd. Dusty hasnt learned a damn thing. So much for trying to utilize Pierres speed cause when Perez swings at the first pitch and hits into another one of his dp's it Juans speed wont matter. Dusty, do you know what the hell OBP is? :twisted:

 

I'll be right on the money when Dusty doesn't double switch Neifi out of the game. He may double switch Neifi over to SS, and have Hairston take over at 2nd, but Neifi will not come out of the game. Book it!

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Just to let everybody know, the Score 670 was saying that Neifi is starting at 2nd tomorrow, and yes he IS batting 2nd. Dusty hasnt learned a damn thing. So much for trying to utilize Pierres speed cause when Perez swings at the first pitch and hits into another one of his dp's it Juans speed wont matter. Dusty, do you know what the hell OBP is? :twisted:

 

If he understood what it is, he would have never hit Neifi & Macias #1 & #2 LY has frequently as he did.

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Just to let everybody know, the Score 670 was saying that Neifi is starting at 2nd tomorrow, and yes he IS batting 2nd. Dusty hasnt learned a damn thing. So much for trying to utilize Pierres speed cause when Perez swings at the first pitch and hits into another one of his dp's it Juans speed wont matter. Dusty, do you know what the hell OBP is? :twisted:

 

If he understood what it is, he would have never hit Neifi & Macias #1 & #2 LY has frequently as he did.

 

Yea, I know but I was hoping for a miracle over the off season. Its going to be a long year if Neifi is batting 2nd again. If I was Lee, I would be so pissed. Its pure assanine

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Just to let everybody know, the Score 670 was saying that Neifi is starting at 2nd tomorrow, and yes he IS batting 2nd. Dusty hasnt learned a damn thing. So much for trying to utilize Pierres speed cause when Perez swings at the first pitch and hits into another one of his dp's it Juans speed wont matter. Dusty, do you know what the hell OBP is? :twisted:

 

If he understood what it is, he would have never hit Neifi & Macias #1 & #2 LY has frequently as he did.

 

Yea, I know but I was hoping for a miracle over the off season. Its going to be a long year if Neifi is batting 2nd again. If I was Lee, I would be so pissed. Its pure assanine

I'm just not as suprised as some people in Dusty's decision making. I'm ok with Neifi in the line-up,occasionally. The problem is he should never hit higher than 7th due to his frequency to GIDP.

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No.... but I am expecting to catch most of the games that Maddux pitches.

 

You ARE? Is this some sort of alter-ego you haven't told us about, Fred? Or should I say...Hank?

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Just to let everybody know, the Score 670 was saying that Neifi is starting at 2nd tomorrow, and yes he IS batting 2nd. Dusty hasnt learned a damn thing. So much for trying to utilize Pierres speed cause when Perez swings at the first pitch and hits into another one of his dp's it Juans speed wont matter. Dusty, do you know what the hell OBP is? :twisted:

 

I'll be right on the money when Dusty doesn't double switch Neifi out of the game. He may double switch Neifi over to SS, and have Hairston take over at 2nd, but Neifi will not come out of the game. Book it!

 

Although I hate Neifi starting games as much as you do, the fact that Neifi will always play 9 innings (when he starts) is not particularly surprising. Nor is it damning of Baker.

 

If you believe -- as I do -- that Neifi's proper role on this team is to serve only as a defensive replacement for Walker in the late innings of games that the Cubs lead, why would you take him out of the game at that point when he does start?

 

Clearly, he should never start. But in the games that he does start, why do you expect (or want) Baker to compound the problem by removing Perez from the game just at the point where he might contribute?

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No.... but I am expecting to catch most of the games that Maddux pitches.

 

You ARE? Is this some sort of alter-ego you haven't told us about, Fred? Or should I say...Hank?

 

That was supposed to read ".... expecting him to catch......", and I think you knew that..... but tonight my fingers just can't seem to keep up with my brain. Must have something to do with those narcotics they gave me for the pain earlier. (I fractured a rib and had to visit the E.R.), so leave me alone !! :wink:

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The only reason Neifi is starting at 2B is because of his defense.

 

And here all along I thought he was only starting because of his outstanding ability to hit into double plays.

 

Neifi Perez= extremely poor on base percentage, poor plate discipline, ground ball hitter to the extreme, little to no power.

 

These are NOT the type of characteristics you want hitting 2nd in your line up. Ever. Period.

 

2nd is also not where you hide a guy in your line up when they have these characteristics.

 

If the only reason Neifi is starting at 2b is because of his defense, why will he be batting 2nd in the order? Sounds to me as though Dusty thinks he can contribute offensively.

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The only reason Neifi is starting at 2B is because of his defense.

 

And here all along I thought he was only starting because of his outstanding ability to hit into double plays.

 

Neifi Perez= extremely poor on base percentage, poor plate discipline, ground ball hitter to the extreme, little to no power.

 

These are NOT the type of characteristics you want hitting 2nd in your line up. Ever. Period.

 

2nd is also not where you hide a guy in your line up when they have these characteristics.

 

If the only reason Neifi is starting at 2b is because of his defense, why will he be batting 2nd in the order? Sounds to me as though Dusty thinks he can contribute offensively.

 

Do we know hes batting second today? I'd like to see Matty Mur there. And the way hes hitting, maybe Dusty will try him.

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For those of you wanting something other than ESPN 1000... it now says that Neifi will start on the Cubs homepage.

 

Still not 100% proof, but considering he did it over and over and over again last year, I have no reason to believe he wouldn't do it again this year.

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For those who subscribe to Baseball Prospectus, note the article yesterday in which Neifi appears as the 12th worst offensive player since 1900:

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=4945

 

And Dusty bats him second.

 

I really should just become an A's fan and dump the Cubs. It's not worth getting angry like this.

 

#12 in over 100 years of suckage batting 2nd. Sounds about right for this franchise.

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Batting 2nd doesn't really matter. Batting order has been shown to not really affect runs scored over the long haul. What matters is who is in the lineup. And Neifi has no business being in any lineup.

 

Best case scenario is he has a fluke couple games when he does start, but that Dusty doesn't turn those fluke good games into the scores of terrible games by playing him every day. Neifi had a great April last year. But he sucked overall, and his non-April numbers were depressingly terrible.

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The only reason Neifi is starting at 2B is because of his defense.

 

And here all along I thought he was only starting because of his outstanding ability to hit into double plays.

 

Neifi Perez= extremely poor on base percentage, poor plate discipline, ground ball hitter to the extreme, little to no power.

 

These are NOT the type of characteristics you want hitting 2nd in your line up. Ever. Period.

 

2nd is also not where you hide a guy in your line up when they have these characteristics.

 

If the only reason Neifi is starting at 2b is because of his defense, why will he be batting 2nd in the order? Sounds to me as though Dusty thinks he can contribute offensively.

 

There is no difference between Neifi batting 2nd or 8th in the lineup according to Bill James. :wink:

 

The only thing that matters is whether or not Neifi plays or not. he's going to play. Get over it.

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Batting 2nd doesn't really matter. Batting order has been shown to not really affect runs scored over the long haul. What matters is who is in the lineup. And Neifi has no business being in any lineup.

 

Isn't there a new book that contradicts that notion? I believe its called "The Book" but i'm drawing a blank. I remember the gist of it is, your best batters should be placed first, second, and fourth, then next best batters third and fifth.

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