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Apologies in advance if it's posted elsewhere, but who are some of the best possible midseason targets for this year's trade deadline? The only name that comes to mind for me is Carlos Lee. Does anyone have a list or a link to another thread with this?

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Derek Lee, Juan Pierre and Aramis Ramirez if we suck. They are all free agents after this year I believe (Ramirez has that thing in his contract where he can choose to be a FA, right). I have every reason to think the Cubs will keep Aram and Lee from entering the market but until they sign them, I will be worried because the Cubs have alienated star players before and watched them go to other teams.
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Zito and Mulder now that I think about it...Right?

Oakland's going to be winning the AL west -- I doubt Beane's going to trade Zito mid-year.

 

Why would StL trade Mulder?

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Zito and Mulder now that I think about it...Right?

Oakland's going to be winning the AL west -- I doubt Beane's going to trade Zito mid-year.

 

Why would StL trade Mulder?

 

I could see them trading Mulder if they fall out of it, which is highly unlikely. They have an older team, so they might try to get some young major league talent if they are under .500 or something at the deadline. Add Edmonds to the list as well.

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Zito and Mulder now that I think about it...Right?

Oakland's going to be winning the AL west -- I doubt Beane's going to trade Zito mid-year.

 

Why would StL trade Mulder?

 

Good point, I started thinking about next year's free agent crop and relating that to possible trade bait. My brain's in shambles today.

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Here's some possible targets:

 

1. Carlos Lee

2. Aubry Huff

3. Julio Lugo

4. Jose Guillen

5. Randy Wolf

6. Jason Schmidt

7. Moises Alou

8. Ray Durham

9. Luis Gonzalez

10.Miguel Batista

11. Tom Glavine

12. Cliff Floyd

 

All of these are possibilites. Most of these teams from which these players come expect to be contenders, but all have issues (as the Cubs do) that could cause them to fall below expectations and be sellers in July. All of these players are nearing the end of big contracts and could be moved.

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Derek Lee, Juan Pierre and Aramis Ramirez if we suck. They are all free agents after this year I believe (Ramirez has that thing in his contract where he can choose to be a FA, right).

 

Yep.

 

Also FAs after this season are Maddux and Walker. Wood's a possibility if he waives his No Trade Clause (doubtful, plus he'd want his option picked up). Jock Jones and Michael Barrett could draw some interest as potential starters for teams in the hunt.

 

It's hard to predict how this team will do, though.

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Hendry doesn't strike me as a fire sale kind of GM.

 

Why, because he refused to let Wood have surgery mid-season--even though it would have had him ready for '06-- because we were "still in the hunt"?

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Hendry doesn't strike me as a fire sale kind of GM.

 

If this team is out of the race by the trade deadline, he might not even be GM by that time.

 

Hendry will be the GM---win or lose---through the season. Now NEXT offseason...that's another story.

 

And I agree with another poster, even if the Cubs svck, I don't see the Cubs selling off their team and alienating their fan base. I could see moving both Pierre (Pie) and Lee (Sing or Dopirak), but I can't see moving ARam, Barrett, or Jones....simply because the Cubs don't have any ready made players at those positions in the minors that will be ready to help in less then 3 yrs, and because I highly doubt they would find upgrades over ARam and Barrett on the market in the offseason. And I don't see Walker as a deadline deal, cause he won't be with the Cubs by the deadline.

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Here's some possible targets:

 

1. Carlos Lee

2. Aubry Huff

3. Julio Lugo

4. Jose Guillen

5. Randy Wolf

6. Jason Schmidt

7. Moises Alou

8. Ray Durham

9. Luis Gonzalez

10.Miguel Batista

11. Tom Glavine

12. Cliff Floyd

 

All of these are possibilites. Most of these teams from which these players come expect to be contenders, but all have issues (as the Cubs do) that could cause them to fall below expectations and be sellers in July. All of these players are nearing the end of big contracts and could be moved.

 

Selig was at Saturday's game and discussed the success of the Wild Card. He pictures 20 teams still in the hunt by Labor Day because of the Wild Card. Having said that, it's difficult saying how many teams would be "sellers" in July.

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The problem with the trade deadline now is that almost every team still thinks they have a shot. Any team that's within 15 games of the division leader thinks they can do what the Astros have done the last two years. The handful of teams that know they don't have a shot either have teams full of young players and very few veterans so they don't have much to trade. The one or two teams that actually have a good bat or veteran "playoff" type pitcher end up asking way too much because they have 15-20 teams interested, and they end up not moving anyone. Huff would have been a perfect player to trade, but TB was asking for a front of the rotation starter and not a collection of prospects.

We may see a few midlevel trades and maybe a single impact trade, but, I think the days of the bigtime deadline deals are pretty much gone. Such is life in baseball with the wildcard.

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I can't wait for Lugo and Huff to retire so they're not tossed around in trade talk any longer. Both are extremely overrated for the pricetag that is likely on them.

 

Here's to hoping the fish want to unload D-Train or Miggy.

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Increasingly I'm leaning towards wanting the Cubs to fall out of contention quickly and have a fire sale midseason. The 2007 team has the potential to be awesome if all the young pitchers and Pie get a chance to play and some of the vets are traded for more near-MLB-ready talent. Murton and Cedeno should also be a lot better with a full year of seasoning. Honestly I can see the Cubs as a WS favorite for 2007 if Hendry can hold a successful fire sale at the break. But unfortunately what's most likely is the Cubs will yet again be a lame darkhorse all year until eliminated in September.
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Buyers or Sellers?

 

If the Cubs are selling

 

Lee

Jones

Pierre

Neifi

Walker (if not traded already)

Barrett

Williamson

Dempster

Maddux (little value though)

 

I don't think any of our pitchers outside of Z would have trade value, but I wouldn't trade Z

 

If the Cubs are buying:

 

Abreu

JD Drew

Pat Burrell

Any number of BA top 100 position prospects at 2nd, SS, or outfield

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If the Cubs are buying:

 

Any number of BA top 100 position prospects at 2nd, SS, or outfield

 

huh?

why would any teams in sale mode trade off some of their top prospects at the deadline?

this seems like something a selling team would try to acquire (and be successful), not a buying team.

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If the Cubs are buying:

 

Any number of BA top 100 position prospects at 2nd, SS, or outfield

 

huh?

why would any teams in sale mode trade off some of their top prospects at the deadline?

this seems like something a selling team would try to acquire (and be successful), not a buying team.

 

I think the prospects relate to what the Cubs would be buying if they were selling the likes of Lee, Jones, Pierre to a contender.

 

yes, but if that were the case, the cubs would be selling, not buying as he said.

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Increasingly I'm leaning towards wanting the Cubs to fall out of contention quickly and have a fire sale midseason. The 2007 team has the potential to be awesome if all the young pitchers and Pie get a chance to play and some of the vets are traded for more near-MLB-ready talent. Murton and Cedeno should also be a lot better with a full year of seasoning. Honestly I can see the Cubs as a WS favorite for 2007 if Hendry can hold a successful fire sale at the break. But unfortunately what's most likely is the Cubs will yet again be a lame darkhorse all year until eliminated in September.

 

?

with what pitchers?

we have 0 sure fire prospects...we have screwed up or given away everyone! brownlee, hill, guzman, mitre, wellmeyer, wuertz, farnsworth, garland, willis....

who other than zambrano can be counted on?

our studs are gone or shown to be "unstuds" and all we have to show for it is pierre and 2 years of clement.(i do not count six finger louie)

i can live with murton, pie and cedeno but we better hace some serious offense if we are going with our young pitchers!

or are we counting on prior and wood still?

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