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People, Pujols hasn't played outfield since 2003, and no manager in his right mind would stick him in left field for even ONE game, at this point.

 

If said manager had Derrek Lee on the team with him it's quite likely he would.

 

The Cardinal organization would go ballistic if ANYBODY stuck Albert in the outfield. You guys can have your imaginary fun, but in reality, it would NEVER happen. Pujols would start at first base, and Derrek Lee would be a pinch-hitter extraordinaire.

 

The Ranger organization would go ballistic if ANYBODY stuck Alex Rodriguez at third base. You can have your imaginary fun, but in reality it would NEVER happen. Jeter would start at SS, and Alex Rodriguez would be a pinch hitter extraordinaire.

 

Moving an athletic shortstop to third base is alot different than moving a big strong body to the outfield, where there's a higher risk of injury.

 

 

If you want Pujols and Derrek Lee both on the team, then take Aramis off, and put Pujols at third base.

 

Aramis is leaving the all NL team either. I'd still put AP in LF and DLee at 1B.

 

Because you're a Cub fan, and there's no accountability for you. Nobody else would even dream of it, at this point in Pujols' career.

 

It's easy for you to call me a homer but I think it makes the most sense. I don't see anyone complaining about ManRam roaming around LF. Pujols would be fine out there; I consider him a better athlete than Manny. Derrek Lee helps the team more by anchoring the infield at 1B. That's clear thinking not biased.

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People, Pujols hasn't played outfield since 2003, and no manager in his right mind would stick him in left field for even ONE game, at this point.

 

If said manager had Derrek Lee on the team with him it's quite likely he would.

 

The Cardinal organization would go ballistic if ANYBODY stuck Albert in the outfield. You guys can have your imaginary fun, but in reality, it would NEVER happen. Pujols would start at first base, and Derrek Lee would be a pinch-hitter extraordinaire.

 

Aren't you talking about some imaginary all NL Central team? Who cares what the Cardinals organization would think?

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The whole debate here is silly. This is an imaginary team. No team would be able to ever acquire all of the players we've listed. It's really silly to continue these arguments any further.

 

However, if for some strange stroke of luck a team had Derrek Lee and Albert Pujols on the team, I think it is more than likely that Lee plays first and Pujols returns to left or third depending on who else is on the team. This isn't giving preference to Lee as it is recognizing that Pujols has at least seen major league innings in those positions while Lee has not.

 

But since this isn't the case, and this is an imaginary team, people getting their panties in a wad because someone suggest Pujols at left field is ridiculous and rather asinine.

 

But when I consider the poster involved, I really shouldn't be surprised that someone has carried a pointless argument this far.

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The whole debate here is silly. This is an imaginary team. No team would be able to ever acquire all of the players we've listed. It's really silly to continue these arguments any further.

 

However, if for some strange stroke of luck a team had Derrek Lee and Albert Pujols on the team, I think it is more than likely that Lee plays first and Pujols returns to left or third depending on who else is on the team. This isn't giving preference to Lee as it is recognizing that Pujols has at least seen major league innings in those positions while Lee has not.

 

But since this isn't the case, and this is an imaginary team, people getting their panties in a wad because someone suggest Pujols at left field is ridiculous and rather asinine.

 

But when I consider the poster involved, I really shouldn't be surprised that someone has carried a pointless argument this far.

 

Isn't EVERY discussion on this board pointless, in the grand scheme of things? Think about it.

 

It's fun to discuss these sorts of things, and not much fun when we all agree.

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People, Pujols hasn't played outfield since 2003, and no manager in his right mind would stick him in left field for even ONE game, at this point.

 

If said manager had Derrek Lee on the team with him it's quite likely he would.

 

The Cardinal organization would go ballistic if ANYBODY stuck Albert in the outfield. You guys can have your imaginary fun, but in reality, it would NEVER happen. Pujols would start at first base, and Derrek Lee would be a pinch-hitter extraordinaire.

 

The Ranger organization would go ballistic if ANYBODY stuck Alex Rodriguez at third base. You can have your imaginary fun, but in reality it would NEVER happen. Jeter would start at SS, and Alex Rodriguez would be a pinch hitter extraordinaire.

 

Moving an athletic shortstop to third base is alot different than moving a big strong body to the outfield, where there's a higher risk of injury.

 

 

If you want Pujols and Derrek Lee both on the team, then take Aramis off, and put Pujols at third base.

 

Aramis is leaving the all NL team either. I'd still put AP in LF and DLee at 1B.

 

Because you're a Cub fan, and there's no accountability for you. Nobody else would even dream of it, at this point in Pujols' career.

 

It's easy for you to call me a homer but I think it makes the most sense. I don't see anyone complaining about ManRam roaming around LF. Pujols would be fine out there; I consider him a better athlete than Manny. Derrek Lee helps the team more by anchoring the infield at 1B. That's clear thinking not biased.

 

Cool. Then let's put Rolen at 2nd base. I'm sure he could handle it.

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Ok, ok...if we are going to be so realistic that we can't stick one of these guys in the OF then let's get really real. The only way Lee and Pujols EVER play on the same team, it would most likely be in the Bronx and then one of them could be the DH.

 

Good thing were not being realistic.

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People, Pujols hasn't played outfield since 2003, and no manager in his right mind would stick him in left field for even ONE game, at this point.

 

If said manager had Derrek Lee on the team with him it's quite likely he would.

 

The Cardinal organization would go ballistic if ANYBODY stuck Albert in the outfield. You guys can have your imaginary fun, but in reality, it would NEVER happen. Pujols would start at first base, and Derrek Lee would be a pinch-hitter extraordinaire.

 

The Ranger organization would go ballistic if ANYBODY stuck Alex Rodriguez at third base. You can have your imaginary fun, but in reality it would NEVER happen. Jeter would start at SS, and Alex Rodriguez would be a pinch hitter extraordinaire.

 

Moving an athletic shortstop to third base is alot different than moving a big strong body to the outfield, where there's a higher risk of injury.

 

 

If you want Pujols and Derrek Lee both on the team, then take Aramis off, and put Pujols at third base.

 

Aramis is leaving the all NL team either. I'd still put AP in LF and DLee at 1B.

 

Because you're a Cub fan, and there's no accountability for you. Nobody else would even dream of it, at this point in Pujols' career.

 

It's easy for you to call me a homer but I think it makes the most sense. I don't see anyone complaining about ManRam roaming around LF. Pujols would be fine out there; I consider him a better athlete than Manny. Derrek Lee helps the team more by anchoring the infield at 1B. That's clear thinking not biased.

 

Cool. Then let's put Rolen at 2nd base. I'm sure he could handle it.

How many major league innings has Rolen played at 2nd?

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How many major league innings has Rolen played at 2nd?

 

None. But it's about as realistic as Pujols EVER stepping foot in the outfield again.

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How many major league innings has Rolen played at 2nd?

 

I believe that would be the same as me.

 

Yeah, but you can't hit.

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How many major league innings has Rolen played at 2nd?

 

None. But it's about as realistic as Pujols EVER stepping foot in the outfield again.

Funny, because zero is probably a BETTER chance than DLee has of ever playing a position outside of first base. At least Pujols has done it before.

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How many major league innings has Rolen played at 2nd?

 

None. But it's about as realistic as Pujols EVER stepping foot in the outfield again.

Funny, because zero is probably a BETTER chance than DLee has of ever playing a position outside of first base. At least Pujols has done it before.

 

You're right...... there's ZERO chance the D. Lee ever plays a position other than first. Likewise, there's ZERO chance that Pujols ever would. Therefore, Lee doesn't crack the starting lineup.

 

If you're picking an all-star team for last year, then you've got a toss-up between Lee and Pujols for first base. If you're picking an all-division team based on the best players in the division, then Pujols is at first base, and Lee gets left out (unfortunately), because Pujols isn't an outfielder.

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I wonder if K-Town would have a problem if people put Lee in LF and Pujols at 1B.

 

Nah, he's probably just protecting the integrity of the position of LF. You know, the spot where you usually have to be a great defender...LF

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I wonder if K-Town would have a problem if people put Lee in LF and Pujols at 1B.

 

Nah, he's probably just protecting the integrity of the position of LF. You know, the spot where you usually have to be a great defender...LF

 

I couldn't care less if you put Lee in left field. If you want him getting hurt, I guess that's YOUR issue. I certainly don't want MY guy getting hurt, though.

 

Injuries would be my concern. There's a reason why Pujols isn't in the outfield anymore, and it's not because he was a terrible left-fielder.

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I wonder if K-Town would have a problem if people put Lee in LF and Pujols at 1B.

 

Nah, he's probably just protecting the integrity of the position of LF. You know, the spot where you usually have to be a great defender...LF

 

I couldn't care less if you put Lee in left field. If you want him getting hurt, I guess that's YOUR issue. I certainly don't want MY guy getting hurt, though.

 

Injuries would be my concern. There's a reason why Pujols isn't in the outfield anymore, and it's not because he was a terrible left-fielder.

 

Who is getting injured on an imaginary team?

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The reason Pujols was moved to first was because the Cards traded Tino Martinez for magic beans and they liked the options that they brought into ST for LF better than the options they brought in for 1B. If you remember at the time, Steve Cox was being discussed as the possible 1B with Pujols still in LF.
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The reason Pujols was moved to first was because the Cards traded Tino Martinez for magic beans and they liked the options that they brought into ST for LF better than the options they brought in for 1B. If you remember at the time, Steve Cox was being discussed as the possible 1B with Pujols still in LF.

 

And Chris Duncan probably looks like a better option than the other left-fielders THIS spring, but he only knows how to play first base. So why do you think that Pujols isn't being moved to the outfield NOW, so Duncan can play first base? Do you have a theory for that?

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The reason Pujols was moved to first was because the Cards traded Tino Martinez for magic beans and they liked the options that they brought into ST for LF better than the options they brought in for 1B. If you remember at the time, Steve Cox was being discussed as the possible 1B with Pujols still in LF.

 

And Chris Duncan probably looks like a better option than the other left-fielders THIS spring, but he only knows how to play first base. So why do you think that Pujols isn't being moved to the outfield NOW, so Duncan can play first base? Do you have a theory for that?

 

My post had nothing to do with now, it had to do with you falsely stating that Pujols was moved to stop him from being injured.

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The reason Pujols was moved to first was because the Cards traded Tino Martinez for magic beans and they liked the options that they brought into ST for LF better than the options they brought in for 1B. If you remember at the time, Steve Cox was being discussed as the possible 1B with Pujols still in LF.

 

And Chris Duncan probably looks like a better option than the other left-fielders THIS spring, but he only knows how to play first base. So why do you think that Pujols isn't being moved to the outfield NOW, so Duncan can play first base? Do you have a theory for that?

 

My post had nothing to do with now, it had to do with you falsely stating that Pujols was moved to stop him from being injured.

 

I don't buy your theory (that Pujols was moved because there were no other options at first base, and plenty of outfield options). That's my point. If your theory were true, then why wouldn't they be doing the same thing this year?

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I wonder if K-Town would have a problem if people put Lee in LF and Pujols at 1B.

 

Nah, he's probably just protecting the integrity of the position of LF. You know, the spot where you usually have to be a great defender...LF

 

I couldn't care less if you put Lee in left field. If you want him getting hurt, I guess that's YOUR issue. I certainly don't want MY guy getting hurt, though.

 

Injuries would be my concern. There's a reason why Pujols isn't in the outfield anymore, and it's not because he was a terrible left-fielder.

 

What's this "my guy" stuff? If you're assembling an "All NL Central Team" then you are the GM or manager and all the guys are YOUR responsibility. Therefore, the onus is on you to put together the best squad which is why Derrek Lee at first base and Pujols in LF makes the most sense offensively and defensively.

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I wonder if K-Town would have a problem if people put Lee in LF and Pujols at 1B.

 

Nah, he's probably just protecting the integrity of the position of LF. You know, the spot where you usually have to be a great defender...LF

 

I couldn't care less if you put Lee in left field. If you want him getting hurt, I guess that's YOUR issue. I certainly don't want MY guy getting hurt, though.

 

Injuries would be my concern. There's a reason why Pujols isn't in the outfield anymore, and it's not because he was a terrible left-fielder.

 

What's this "my guy" stuff? If you're assemblying an "All NL Central Team" then you are the GM or manager and all the guys are YOUR responsibility. Therefore, the onus is on you to put together the best squad which is why Derrek Lee at first base and Pujols in LF makes the most sense offensively and defensively.

 

I'm not assembling it. I'm telling you why I'd tar & feather "the GM" or "the manager" if he put Pujols in left field.

 

From a standpoint of assembling the best team, it wouldn't be hard to find a left fielder who can put up numbers similar to Derrek Lee's norm, but you're not going to find a first baseman who gives you what Pujols normally does. In other words, you could put Bay, Dunn, and Edmonds in the outfield, and Pujols at first base. Nobody would be out of position, and it would be just as productive as a team with Lee at first and Pujols in the outfield.

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Here's my team....

 

 

SP - Dunn

SP - Isringhausen

SP - Edmonds

SP - Turnbow

SP - Pujols

 

RP - Bay

RP - Carpenter

RP - Weeks

RP - Zambrano

 

C - Lee

1B - Lidge

2B - Oswalt

3B - Sheets

SS - Rolen

OF - Lopez

OF - Barrett

OF - Dempster

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