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I'd put a friendly wager on Spivey outproducing the Cubs 2nd base position if he's healthy the season. Especially if it holds true that Perez, Hairston, and Walker will be competing at spring training or platooning.

 

I'll take that wager.

 

PECOTA for Spivey:

 

248/322/410 WARP 1.7

 

PECOTA for Walker:

280/341/425 WARP 2.5

 

PECOTA for Hairston:

268/342/387 WARP 2.2

 

PECOTA for Perez

264/296/364 WARP 2.4

 

I like my chances that Walker and Hairston will play enough to have the Cubs 2b outproduce Spivey. Spivey isn't really that good.

 

How about the loser buys the winner the cap of their choice?

 

You initially said that you liked your chances Walker and Hairston will play enough. Another wild card in the equation is Spivey gets off to a slow start or loses his starting slot due to injury, no there's no telling if Luna or Miles will steal time from him.

 

How about this? I'll take the wager with your injury caveat as long as the bet is cancelled if Walker is traded before the end of ST.

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I'd put a friendly wager on Spivey outproducing the Cubs 2nd base position if he's healthy the season. Especially if it holds true that Perez, Hairston, and Walker will be competing at spring training or platooning.

 

I'll take that wager.

 

PECOTA for Spivey:

 

248/322/410 WARP 1.7

 

PECOTA for Walker:

280/341/425 WARP 2.5

 

PECOTA for Hairston:

268/342/387 WARP 2.2

 

PECOTA for Perez

264/296/364 WARP 2.4

 

I like my chances that Walker and Hairston will play enough to have the Cubs 2b outproduce Spivey. Spivey isn't really that good.

 

How about the loser buys the winner the cap of their choice?

 

You initially said that you liked your chances Walker and Hairston will play enough. Another wild card in the equation is Spivey gets off to a slow start or loses his starting slot due to injury, no there's no telling if Luna or Miles will steal time from him.

 

How about this? I'll take the wager with your injury caveat as long as the bet is cancelled if Walker is traded before the end of ST.

 

OK, the above stats, BA, OBP, SLG? As long as you're open to addtl. wagers if the bet is canceled :D ?

 

So we have deal is void if Walker is traded or Spivey is injured for longer than 3 wks. No other caveats, if it's close in the three stats, how do we decide?

 

Prize is Cubs or Cards hat of choice.

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I'd put a friendly wager on Spivey outproducing the Cubs 2nd base position if he's healthy the season. Especially if it holds true that Perez, Hairston, and Walker will be competing at spring training or platooning.

 

I'll take that wager.

 

PECOTA for Spivey:

 

248/322/410 WARP 1.7

 

PECOTA for Walker:

280/341/425 WARP 2.5

 

PECOTA for Hairston:

268/342/387 WARP 2.2

 

PECOTA for Perez

264/296/364 WARP 2.4

 

I like my chances that Walker and Hairston will play enough to have the Cubs 2b outproduce Spivey. Spivey isn't really that good.

 

How about the loser buys the winner the cap of their choice?

 

You initially said that you liked your chances Walker and Hairston will play enough. Another wild card in the equation is Spivey gets off to a slow start or loses his starting slot due to injury, no there's no telling if Luna or Miles will steal time from him.

 

How about this? I'll take the wager with your injury caveat as long as the bet is cancelled if Walker is traded before the end of ST.

 

OK, the above stats, BA, OBP, SLG? As long as you're open to addtl. wagers if the bet is canceled :D ?

 

So we have deal is void if Walker is traded or Spivey is injured for longer than 3 wks. No other caveats, if it's close in the three stats, how do we decide?

 

Prize is Cubs or Cards hat of choice.

 

Sounds good. The above stats work. Tie breaker can either be VORP or WARP.

Posted
I'd put a friendly wager on Spivey outproducing the Cubs 2nd base position if he's healthy the season. Especially if it holds true that Perez, Hairston, and Walker will be competing at spring training or platooning.

 

I'll take that wager.

 

PECOTA for Spivey:

 

248/322/410 WARP 1.7

 

PECOTA for Walker:

280/341/425 WARP 2.5

 

PECOTA for Hairston:

268/342/387 WARP 2.2

 

PECOTA for Perez

264/296/364 WARP 2.4

 

I like my chances that Walker and Hairston will play enough to have the Cubs 2b outproduce Spivey. Spivey isn't really that good.

 

How about the loser buys the winner the cap of their choice?

 

You initially said that you liked your chances Walker and Hairston will play enough. Another wild card in the equation is Spivey gets off to a slow start or loses his starting slot due to injury, no there's no telling if Luna or Miles will steal time from him.

 

How about this? I'll take the wager with your injury caveat as long as the bet is cancelled if Walker is traded before the end of ST.

 

OK, the above stats, BA, OBP, SLG? As long as you're open to addtl. wagers if the bet is canceled :D ?

 

So we have deal is void if Walker is traded or Spivey is injured for longer than 3 wks. No other caveats, if it's close in the three stats, how do we decide?

 

Prize is Cubs or Cards hat of choice.

 

Sounds good. The above stats work. Tie breaker can either be VORP or WARP.

 

Not to complicate matters, but are we just going off best 2 or 3 categories? Or look at all three stats and agree who was the best player?

Posted
I'd put a friendly wager on Spivey outproducing the Cubs 2nd base position if he's healthy the season. Especially if it holds true that Perez, Hairston, and Walker will be competing at spring training or platooning.

 

I'll take that wager.

 

PECOTA for Spivey:

 

248/322/410 WARP 1.7

 

PECOTA for Walker:

280/341/425 WARP 2.5

 

PECOTA for Hairston:

268/342/387 WARP 2.2

 

PECOTA for Perez

264/296/364 WARP 2.4

 

I like my chances that Walker and Hairston will play enough to have the Cubs 2b outproduce Spivey. Spivey isn't really that good.

 

How about the loser buys the winner the cap of their choice?

 

You initially said that you liked your chances Walker and Hairston will play enough. Another wild card in the equation is Spivey gets off to a slow start or loses his starting slot due to injury, no there's no telling if Luna or Miles will steal time from him.

 

How about this? I'll take the wager with your injury caveat as long as the bet is cancelled if Walker is traded before the end of ST.

 

OK, the above stats, BA, OBP, SLG? As long as you're open to addtl. wagers if the bet is canceled :D ?

 

So we have deal is void if Walker is traded or Spivey is injured for longer than 3 wks. No other caveats, if it's close in the three stats, how do we decide?

 

Prize is Cubs or Cards hat of choice.

 

Sounds good. The above stats work. Tie breaker can either be VORP or WARP.

 

Not to complicate matters, but are we just going off best 2 or 3 categories? Or look at all three stats and agree who was the best player?

 

We can look at all three. Why not take BA and OPS (as OPS combines Slg and OBP.) If those are too close to call, we move to WARP.

Posted
I'd put a friendly wager on Spivey outproducing the Cubs 2nd base position if he's healthy the season. Especially if it holds true that Perez, Hairston, and Walker will be competing at spring training or platooning.

 

I'll take that wager.

 

PECOTA for Spivey:

 

248/322/410 WARP 1.7

 

PECOTA for Walker:

280/341/425 WARP 2.5

 

PECOTA for Hairston:

268/342/387 WARP 2.2

 

PECOTA for Perez

264/296/364 WARP 2.4

 

I like my chances that Walker and Hairston will play enough to have the Cubs 2b outproduce Spivey. Spivey isn't really that good.

 

How about the loser buys the winner the cap of their choice?

 

You initially said that you liked your chances Walker and Hairston will play enough. Another wild card in the equation is Spivey gets off to a slow start or loses his starting slot due to injury, no there's no telling if Luna or Miles will steal time from him.

 

How about this? I'll take the wager with your injury caveat as long as the bet is cancelled if Walker is traded before the end of ST.

 

OK, the above stats, BA, OBP, SLG? As long as you're open to addtl. wagers if the bet is canceled :D ?

 

So we have deal is void if Walker is traded or Spivey is injured for longer than 3 wks. No other caveats, if it's close in the three stats, how do we decide?

 

Prize is Cubs or Cards hat of choice.

 

Sounds good. The above stats work. Tie breaker can either be VORP or WARP.

 

Not to complicate matters, but are we just going off best 2 or 3 categories? Or look at all three stats and agree who was the best player?

 

We can look at all three. Why not take BA and OPS (as OPS combines Slg and OBP.) If those are too close to call, we move to WARP.

 

I'm not opposed to OPS, but I don't want BA to get too much weight (and it shouldn't anyway), as Spivey most likely will lose that category to any of your three. I'm fine with BA, OBP, SLG though.

Posted
I'd put a friendly wager on Spivey outproducing the Cubs 2nd base position if he's healthy the season. Especially if it holds true that Perez, Hairston, and Walker will be competing at spring training or platooning.

 

I'll take that wager.

 

PECOTA for Spivey:

 

248/322/410 WARP 1.7

 

PECOTA for Walker:

280/341/425 WARP 2.5

 

PECOTA for Hairston:

268/342/387 WARP 2.2

 

PECOTA for Perez

264/296/364 WARP 2.4

 

I like my chances that Walker and Hairston will play enough to have the Cubs 2b outproduce Spivey. Spivey isn't really that good.

 

How about the loser buys the winner the cap of their choice?

 

You initially said that you liked your chances Walker and Hairston will play enough. Another wild card in the equation is Spivey gets off to a slow start or loses his starting slot due to injury, no there's no telling if Luna or Miles will steal time from him.

 

How about this? I'll take the wager with your injury caveat as long as the bet is cancelled if Walker is traded before the end of ST.

 

OK, the above stats, BA, OBP, SLG? As long as you're open to addtl. wagers if the bet is canceled :D ?

 

So we have deal is void if Walker is traded or Spivey is injured for longer than 3 wks. No other caveats, if it's close in the three stats, how do we decide?

 

Prize is Cubs or Cards hat of choice.

 

Sounds good. The above stats work. Tie breaker can either be VORP or WARP.

 

Not to complicate matters, but are we just going off best 2 or 3 categories? Or look at all three stats and agree who was the best player?

 

We can look at all three. Why not take BA and OPS (as OPS combines Slg and OBP.) If those are too close to call, we move to WARP.

 

I'm not opposed to OPS, but I don't want BA to get too much weight (and it shouldn't anyway), as Spivey most likely will lose that category to any of your three. I'm fine with BA, OBP, SLG though.

 

Ok. We can use all three categories.

Posted
I'd put a friendly wager on Spivey outproducing the Cubs 2nd base position if he's healthy the season. Especially if it holds true that Perez, Hairston, and Walker will be competing at spring training or platooning.

 

I'll take that wager.

 

PECOTA for Spivey:

 

248/322/410 WARP 1.7

 

PECOTA for Walker:

280/341/425 WARP 2.5

 

PECOTA for Hairston:

268/342/387 WARP 2.2

 

PECOTA for Perez

264/296/364 WARP 2.4

 

I like my chances that Walker and Hairston will play enough to have the Cubs 2b outproduce Spivey. Spivey isn't really that good.

 

How about the loser buys the winner the cap of their choice?

 

You initially said that you liked your chances Walker and Hairston will play enough. Another wild card in the equation is Spivey gets off to a slow start or loses his starting slot due to injury, no there's no telling if Luna or Miles will steal time from him.

 

How about this? I'll take the wager with your injury caveat as long as the bet is cancelled if Walker is traded before the end of ST.

 

OK, the above stats, BA, OBP, SLG? As long as you're open to addtl. wagers if the bet is canceled :D ?

 

So we have deal is void if Walker is traded or Spivey is injured for longer than 3 wks. No other caveats, if it's close in the three stats, how do we decide?

 

Prize is Cubs or Cards hat of choice.

 

Sounds good. The above stats work. Tie breaker can either be VORP or WARP.

 

Not to complicate matters, but are we just going off best 2 or 3 categories? Or look at all three stats and agree who was the best player?

 

We can look at all three. Why not take BA and OPS (as OPS combines Slg and OBP.) If those are too close to call, we move to WARP.

 

I'm not opposed to OPS, but I don't want BA to get too much weight (and it shouldn't anyway), as Spivey most likely will lose that category to any of your three. I'm fine with BA, OBP, SLG though.

 

Ok. We can use all three categories.

 

Deal

Posted
Congrats on your new hat, Vance.

In all logic, this should be the case, as Neifi by himself could at least hang close enough to Spivey's stats that Walker and Hairston drive the average numbers over it. However, stranger things have happened to Cardinal players.

Posted

vance, you should go for one of those fancy black leather cub hats.

 

it'll go great in the sweltering summer heat you and I get to experience down here :D

  • 3 weeks later...
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I'd put a friendly wager on Spivey outproducing the Cubs 2nd base position if he's healthy the season. Especially if it holds true that Perez, Hairston, and Walker will be competing at spring training or platooning.

 

I'll take that wager.

 

PECOTA for Spivey:

 

248/322/410 WARP 1.7

 

PECOTA for Walker:

280/341/425 WARP 2.5

 

PECOTA for Hairston:

268/342/387 WARP 2.2

 

PECOTA for Perez

264/296/364 WARP 2.4

 

I like my chances that Walker and Hairston will play enough to have the Cubs 2b outproduce Spivey. Spivey isn't really that good.

 

How about the loser buys the winner the cap of their choice?

 

You initially said that you liked your chances Walker and Hairston will play enough. Another wild card in the equation is Spivey gets off to a slow start or loses his starting slot due to injury, no there's no telling if Luna or Miles will steal time from him.

 

How about this? I'll take the wager with your injury caveat as long as the bet is cancelled if Walker is traded before the end of ST.

 

OK, the above stats, BA, OBP, SLG? As long as you're open to addtl. wagers if the bet is canceled :D ?

 

So we have deal is void if Walker is traded or Spivey is injured for longer than 3 wks. No other caveats, if it's close in the three stats, how do we decide?

 

Prize is Cubs or Cards hat of choice.

 

Sounds good. The above stats work. Tie breaker can either be VORP or WARP.

 

Not to complicate matters, but are we just going off best 2 or 3 categories? Or look at all three stats and agree who was the best player?

 

We can look at all three. Why not take BA and OPS (as OPS combines Slg and OBP.) If those are too close to call, we move to WARP.

 

I'm not opposed to OPS, but I don't want BA to get too much weight (and it shouldn't anyway), as Spivey most likely will lose that category to any of your three. I'm fine with BA, OBP, SLG though.

 

Ok. We can use all three categories.

 

Deal

 

Do I win this bet if Spivey is cut before Opening Day? :P

 

So far, Spivey's line this spirng: 056/190/056. That's horrible!

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted
I'd put a friendly wager on Spivey outproducing the Cubs 2nd base position if he's healthy the season. Especially if it holds true that Perez, Hairston, and Walker will be competing at spring training or platooning.

 

I'll take that wager.

 

PECOTA for Spivey:

 

248/322/410 WARP 1.7

 

PECOTA for Walker:

280/341/425 WARP 2.5

 

PECOTA for Hairston:

268/342/387 WARP 2.2

 

PECOTA for Perez

264/296/364 WARP 2.4

 

I like my chances that Walker and Hairston will play enough to have the Cubs 2b outproduce Spivey. Spivey isn't really that good.

 

How about the loser buys the winner the cap of their choice?

 

You initially said that you liked your chances Walker and Hairston will play enough. Another wild card in the equation is Spivey gets off to a slow start or loses his starting slot due to injury, no there's no telling if Luna or Miles will steal time from him.

 

How about this? I'll take the wager with your injury caveat as long as the bet is cancelled if Walker is traded before the end of ST.

 

OK, the above stats, BA, OBP, SLG? As long as you're open to addtl. wagers if the bet is canceled :D ?

 

So we have deal is void if Walker is traded or Spivey is injured for longer than 3 wks. No other caveats, if it's close in the three stats, how do we decide?

 

Prize is Cubs or Cards hat of choice.

 

Sounds good. The above stats work. Tie breaker can either be VORP or WARP.

 

Not to complicate matters, but are we just going off best 2 or 3 categories? Or look at all three stats and agree who was the best player?

 

We can look at all three. Why not take BA and OPS (as OPS combines Slg and OBP.) If those are too close to call, we move to WARP.

 

I'm not opposed to OPS, but I don't want BA to get too much weight (and it shouldn't anyway), as Spivey most likely will lose that category to any of your three. I'm fine with BA, OBP, SLG though.

 

Ok. We can use all three categories.

 

Deal

 

Do I win this bet if Spivey is cut before Opening Day? :P

 

So far, Spivey's line this spirng: 056/190/056. That's horrible!

 

Surprised you haven't called me out on this again. I'll still take the bet.

Posted
Can I borrow your sweet new Cubs hat sometimes, Vance?

 

We'll see. I think I might have to go http://www.wrigleyvillesports.com and pick one out now!

 

Don't think there's a chance I'll win this one, just backing up my bold talk. Anyone want to make me a bet I can win?

 

I bet you a drink you'll never come visit me at Zoe's. You have approximately 10 weeks to cash in on this. I move from STL at the start of June.

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