White Sox get Vazquez according to ESPN

[mg420]

This may not be a great sample, but unless KW has psychic powers, I don't see where he deserves that much credit. I didn't pay that much attention to the offense because frankly, theirs wasn't very good. They somehow scored more runs than the Cubs offense despite the Cubs leading them in doubles, TB, BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS. The White Sox only had a very slight advantage in triples and HRs. The only significant advantage for the White Sox was RBIs.

 

Was it all luck?

 

Way to gloss over the points that don't support your theory.

 

What about Iguchi, a Japanese player. Hendry and the Cubs haven't even thought about bringing in Japanese players. If you call the $8m Lee's line of .265/.324/.487 very good for a LF, then Iguchi's .278/.342/.438 at 2.3m from 2B is great. Iguchi, Pods and Dye combined to make less than Lee, while Dye (.274/.333/.512) outperformed Lee on his own.

 

Like I said, individual deals can be debated forever. But they don't matter. What matters is the total package. Williams has done a much better job with the total package than Hendry, and he's done more to improve his team this offseason than Hendry, and he apparantly still has plenty of youth to both add to next years roster plus trade for more parts. And Kenny did all this with a payroll $25m below Hendry's. That right there is a huge fact that people like to pretend doesn't exist. Williams has to make due with an average payroll, he's had an above average team every year, and built a great one last year. Hendry has had a top 5 payroll every year, and has had either an above or below average team as a result, never greatness, and it doesn't look to be coming. Hendry's extra $25m can be used to bring in a sure thing corner OF and allow you not to take the downgrade from Lee to Pods. Hendry's extra money should be an asset. So far it has not been.

 

you know this as a fact because...

[BigbadB]

This may not be a great sample, but unless KW has psychic powers, I don't see where he deserves that much credit. I didn't pay that much attention to the offense because frankly, theirs wasn't very good. They somehow scored more runs than the Cubs offense despite the Cubs leading them in doubles, TB, BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS. The White Sox only had a very slight advantage in triples and HRs. The only significant advantage for the White Sox was RBIs.

 

Was it all luck?

 

Way to gloss over the points that don't support your theory.

 

What about Iguchi, a Japanese player. Hendry and the Cubs haven't even thought about bringing in Japanese players. If you call the $8m Lee's line of .265/.324/.487 very good for a LF, then Iguchi's .278/.342/.438 at 2.3m from 2B is great. Iguchi, Pods and Dye combined to make less than Lee, while Dye (.274/.333/.512) outperformed Lee on his own.

 

Like I said, individual deals can be debated forever. But they don't matter. What matters is the total package. Williams has done a much better job with the total package than Hendry, and he's done more to improve his team this offseason than Hendry, and he apparantly still has plenty of youth to both add to next years roster plus trade for more parts. And Kenny did all this with a payroll $25m below Hendry's. That right there is a huge fact that people like to pretend doesn't exist. Williams has to make due with an average payroll, he's had an above average team every year, and built a great one last year. Hendry has had a top 5 payroll every year, and has had either an above or below average team as a result, never greatness, and it doesn't look to be coming. Hendry's extra $25m can be used to bring in a sure thing corner OF and allow you not to take the downgrade from Lee to Pods. Hendry's extra money should be an asset. So far it has not been.

 

you know this as a fact because...

 

Because the Cubs have regressed every year since 2003?

[frostwyrm]

I was just looking at Vazquez's game logs from last year. He was wildly inconsistent, sometimes great, sometimes horrible. Maybe the Sox think they can fix that.

[jmajew]

No. 2 starter on any team? So he's better than 2 of Wood, Prior, and Zambrano? ok. enough Vazquez love.

 

He was a decent pick up, but no need to go crazy with the Williams love b/c of it. Williams is destroying the ChiSox future with his love for parting with top prospects. That's fine with me. We'll have to deal with them being good for a maximum of 4-5 years and then his decisions will take their toll.

 

That makes no sense. One the Sox are pretty young. Two he still has a young good pitchign staff. Three if he needs to he can trade one of his 6 starting pitchers Garland, Buerhle, Garcia, McCArthy,Contreras, and Vazguez. Plus they also have another 5 years to gather new prospects. Give credit where credit is do. Kenny Williams is doing a heck of a job for this White Sox team. As of now I wish he was the Cubs GM.

 

I will always hate the Sox with a passion but I respect what Kenny is doing.

[mg420]

This may not be a great sample, but unless KW has psychic powers, I don't see where he deserves that much credit. I didn't pay that much attention to the offense because frankly, theirs wasn't very good. They somehow scored more runs than the Cubs offense despite the Cubs leading them in doubles, TB, BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS. The White Sox only had a very slight advantage in triples and HRs. The only significant advantage for the White Sox was RBIs.

 

Was it all luck?

 

Way to gloss over the points that don't support your theory.

 

What about Iguchi, a Japanese player. Hendry and the Cubs haven't even thought about bringing in Japanese players. If you call the $8m Lee's line of .265/.324/.487 very good for a LF, then Iguchi's .278/.342/.438 at 2.3m from 2B is great. Iguchi, Pods and Dye combined to make less than Lee, while Dye (.274/.333/.512) outperformed Lee on his own.

 

Like I said, individual deals can be debated forever. But they don't matter. What matters is the total package. Williams has done a much better job with the total package than Hendry, and he's done more to improve his team this offseason than Hendry, and he apparantly still has plenty of youth to both add to next years roster plus trade for more parts. And Kenny did all this with a payroll $25m below Hendry's. That right there is a huge fact that people like to pretend doesn't exist. Williams has to make due with an average payroll, he's had an above average team every year, and built a great one last year. Hendry has had a top 5 payroll every year, and has had either an above or below average team as a result, never greatness, and it doesn't look to be coming. Hendry's extra $25m can be used to bring in a sure thing corner OF and allow you not to take the downgrade from Lee to Pods. Hendry's extra money should be an asset. So far it has not been.

 

you know this as a fact because...

 

Because the Cubs have regressed every year since 2003?

 

hendry hasnt even thought about bringing in japanese players because the cubs have regressed every year since 2003? i dont get the connection.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I was just looking at Vazquez's game logs from last year. He was wildly inconsistent, sometimes great, sometimes horrible. Maybe the Sox think they can fix that.

 

Money issues aside I think this is a great pick up. Could Vazquez be Contreras version 2? I think so.

[BigbadB]

This may not be a great sample, but unless KW has psychic powers, I don't see where he deserves that much credit. I didn't pay that much attention to the offense because frankly, theirs wasn't very good. They somehow scored more runs than the Cubs offense despite the Cubs leading them in doubles, TB, BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS. The White Sox only had a very slight advantage in triples and HRs. The only significant advantage for the White Sox was RBIs.

 

Was it all luck?

 

Way to gloss over the points that don't support your theory.

 

What about Iguchi, a Japanese player. Hendry and the Cubs haven't even thought about bringing in Japanese players. If you call the $8m Lee's line of .265/.324/.487 very good for a LF, then Iguchi's .278/.342/.438 at 2.3m from 2B is great. Iguchi, Pods and Dye combined to make less than Lee, while Dye (.274/.333/.512) outperformed Lee on his own.

 

Like I said, individual deals can be debated forever. But they don't matter. What matters is the total package. Williams has done a much better job with the total package than Hendry, and he's done more to improve his team this offseason than Hendry, and he apparantly still has plenty of youth to both add to next years roster plus trade for more parts. And Kenny did all this with a payroll $25m below Hendry's. That right there is a huge fact that people like to pretend doesn't exist. Williams has to make due with an average payroll, he's had an above average team every year, and built a great one last year. Hendry has had a top 5 payroll every year, and has had either an above or below average team as a result, never greatness, and it doesn't look to be coming. Hendry's extra $25m can be used to bring in a sure thing corner OF and allow you not to take the downgrade from Lee to Pods. Hendry's extra money should be an asset. So far it has not been.

 

you know this as a fact because...

 

Because the Cubs have regressed every year since 2003?

 

hendry hasnt even thought about bringing in japanese players because the cubs have regressed every year since 2003? i dont get the connection.

 

My apologies. I guess I didn't relate "you know this as fact because...." to the one sentence that speculated Hendry has no interest in Japanese players. They seemed to have given up on recruiting anyone outside the United States of late. Another problem this organization seems to have.

[frostwyrm]

I was just looking at Vazquez's game logs from last year. He was wildly inconsistent, sometimes great, sometimes horrible. Maybe the Sox think they can fix that.

 

Money issues aside I think this is a great pick up. Could Vazquez be Contreras version 2? I think so.

 

If you take out a handful of horrible games Vazquez's season stats would have been really good. The guy has talent, maybe he just needs better coaching to avoid the occasional implosion.l

[goonys evil twin]

you know this as a fact because...

 

You read that whole post and that's the line you respond to? And you don't even respond, just leave a smartass line?

 

 

Do we have to get into this fact or not a fact debate everytime signings are debated? The Cubs have not rumored to be serious in talks with any Japanese players in recent years. They haven't gotten any, while supposedly lesser GM's like Williams has.

 

And the whole point of that Iguchi mention was to point out that with the Money saved from dealing the much overrated Carlos Lee, KW got Pods, Dye and Iguchi, who combine to make less money, while Dye alone is more productive.

 

But if you want to ignore the actual debate and just harp on semantics, go right ahead.

[Jon]

This may not be a great sample, but unless KW has psychic powers, I don't see where he deserves that much credit. I didn't pay that much attention to the offense because frankly, theirs wasn't very good. They somehow scored more runs than the Cubs offense despite the Cubs leading them in doubles, TB, BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS. The White Sox only had a very slight advantage in triples and HRs. The only significant advantage for the White Sox was RBIs.

 

Was it all luck?

 

Way to gloss over the points that don't support your theory.

 

What about Iguchi, a Japanese player. Hendry and the Cubs haven't even thought about bringing in Japanese players. If you call the $8m Lee's line of .265/.324/.487 very good for a LF, then Iguchi's .278/.342/.438 at 2.3m from 2B is great. Iguchi, Pods and Dye combined to make less than Lee, while Dye (.274/.333/.512) outperformed Lee on his own.

 

Like I said, individual deals can be debated forever. But they don't matter. What matters is the total package. Williams has done a much better job with the total package than Hendry, and he's done more to improve his team this offseason than Hendry, and he apparantly still has plenty of youth to both add to next years roster plus trade for more parts. And Kenny did all this with a payroll $25m below Hendry's. That right there is a huge fact that people like to pretend doesn't exist. Williams has to make due with an average payroll, he's had an above average team every year, and built a great one last year. Hendry has had a top 5 payroll every year, and has had either an above or below average team as a result, never greatness, and it doesn't look to be coming. Hendry's extra $25m can be used to bring in a sure thing corner OF and allow you not to take the downgrade from Lee to Pods. Hendry's extra money should be an asset. So far it has not been.

Yes, I didn't bother going into the offense. Yes ,Iguchi had a very good year for them. As did Dye. But did they do more than prevent the offense from being terrible? The team's success can't be tied to what the offense did. And he didn't build a great team. He put together a team whose offensive production was lacking and whose pitching production was amazing. It was all about their pitching. But where were KW's great moves with the pitching staff? How likely is it for their staff to repeat their great success?

 

I'm not defending Hendry. He's been very disappointing. But how much more credit should he deserve if the Cubs were to have won it all in 2003? Just because KW has a ring doesn't mean he's done a very good job. As the Cubs have shown, relying on all of your pitchers to click in one year with barely adequate offensive production is not a very strong strategy.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

This may not be a great sample, but unless KW has psychic powers, I don't see where he deserves that much credit. I didn't pay that much attention to the offense because frankly, theirs wasn't very good. They somehow scored more runs than the Cubs offense despite the Cubs leading them in doubles, TB, BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS. The White Sox only had a very slight advantage in triples and HRs. The only significant advantage for the White Sox was RBIs.

 

Was it all luck?

 

Way to gloss over the points that don't support your theory.

 

What about Iguchi, a Japanese player. Hendry and the Cubs haven't even thought about bringing in Japanese players. If you call the $8m Lee's line of .265/.324/.487 very good for a LF, then Iguchi's .278/.342/.438 at 2.3m from 2B is great. Iguchi, Pods and Dye combined to make less than Lee, while Dye (.274/.333/.512) outperformed Lee on his own.

 

Like I said, individual deals can be debated forever. But they don't matter. What matters is the total package. Williams has done a much better job with the total package than Hendry, and he's done more to improve his team this offseason than Hendry, and he apparantly still has plenty of youth to both add to next years roster plus trade for more parts. And Kenny did all this with a payroll $25m below Hendry's. That right there is a huge fact that people like to pretend doesn't exist. Williams has to make due with an average payroll, he's had an above average team every year, and built a great one last year. Hendry has had a top 5 payroll every year, and has had either an above or below average team as a result, never greatness, and it doesn't look to be coming. Hendry's extra $25m can be used to bring in a sure thing corner OF and allow you not to take the downgrade from Lee to Pods. Hendry's extra money should be an asset. So far it has not been.

Yes, I didn't bother going into the offense. Yes ,Iguchi had a very good year for them. As did Dye. But did they do more than prevent the offense from being terrible? The team's success can't be tied to what the offense did. And he didn't build a great team. He put together a team whose offensive production was lacking and whose pitching production was amazing. It was all about their pitching. But where were KW's great moves with the pitching staff? How likely is it for their staff to repeat their great success?

 

I'm not defending Hendry. He's been very disappointing. But how much more credit should he deserve if the Cubs were to have won it all in 2003? Just because KW has a ring doesn't mean he's done a very good job. As the Cubs have shown, relying on all of your pitchers to click in one year with barely adequate offensive production is not a very strong strategy.

 

I disagree.

 

I hated the Contreras deal but it paid off.

I hated the Hernandez deal but it paid off.

Took a risk on Jenks.

He took a lot of heat for the Garcia trade and sign.

 

And yes the offense was bad last year so he went out and got Thome.

 

I used to think KW sucked but the guy has gotten the job done.

[mg420]

you know this as a fact because...

 

You read that whole post and that's the line you respond to? And you don't even respond, just leave a smartass line?

 

 

Do we have to get into this fact or not a fact debate everytime signings are debated? The Cubs have not rumored to be serious in talks with any Japanese players in recent years. They haven't gotten any, while supposedly lesser GM's like Williams has.

 

And the whole point of that Iguchi mention was to point out that with the Money saved from dealing the much overrated Carlos Lee, KW got Pods, Dye and Iguchi, who combine to make less money, while Dye alone is more productive.

 

But if you want to ignore the actual debate and just harp on semantics, go right ahead.

 

it just goes to show how assumptions stated as facts can be misleading. if you want to call that semantics be my guest. i also consider it a valid question and not a "smartass line". whos to say that williams is a supposedly lesser gm btw-he's the one with the ws ring. unless one subscribes to the fact that he's not good but lucky (which is VERY hard to do in a full season & post season in baseball imo).

[nick23]

you know this as a fact because...

 

You read that whole post and that's the line you respond to? And you don't even respond, just leave a smartass line?

 

 

Do we have to get into this fact or not a fact debate everytime signings are debated? The Cubs have not rumored to be serious in talks with any Japanese players in recent years. They haven't gotten any, while supposedly lesser GM's like Williams has.

 

And the whole point of that Iguchi mention was to point out that with the Money saved from dealing the much overrated Carlos Lee, KW got Pods, Dye and Iguchi, who combine to make less money, while Dye alone is more productive.

 

But if you want to ignore the actual debate and just harp on semantics, go right ahead.

 

The reason some people ask you how you know these things is because sometimes in the middle of your Hendry rants you start spouting things out as if their facts. Then whenever someone calls you on it you get all defensive. Like the other day when you stated that Hendry didn't try to bring Giles here. I asked you how you knew this and you blew up. If you're just going to make things up when bashing Hendry try not to get so defensive when called on it. You call enough people out that you'd think you would understand this.

[goonys evil twin]

I'm not defending Hendry. He's been very disappointing. But how much more credit should he deserve if the Cubs were to have won it all in 2003? Just because KW has a ring doesn't mean he's done a very good job. As the Cubs have shown, relying on all of your pitchers to click in one year with barely adequate offensive production is not a very strong strategy.

 

This is all so ridiculous. It's not just the ring, what about the 99 win season. Hendry's 2003 team wasn't all that good, if they won the ring, and had the same regression once he started making moves, it would look bad. But the point is KW's teams haven't regressed, and he's done it with a much lesser payroll. The rules are different when you aren't a top 5 payroll. With all this absurd Kenny bashing, no GM should ever get any credit.

 

Hendry's team has gotten worse over the past few years. Williams got better. Williams is doing a lot to make his team even better this offseason. Hendry has barely done anything. And Williams has done it all with much less of a payroll.

 

 

If Jim Hendry gets "credit" for back to back over .500 seasons, why doesn't Williams get credit for 5 straight .500 or better seasons? Hendry gets ragged on because the Cubs have regressed, were sub .500, haven't done much to change things this offseason, and do it with a $100m payroll. William's teams hasn't regressed, have been .500 or better every year, had a great 99 win season, won the World Series, he's still doing a lot to make the 2006 team even better, and he's done it with much less payroll.

 

Where is the basis for your argument again?

 

If KW didn't do much to make his team better, then I better not see any of you jumping on the Hendry bandwagon if the Cubs pull out a 99 win WS championship season in 2006.

 

I dislike Hendry because I don't share his beliefs in how to put together a team, but mostly because I don't like his results. I can admit that what I believe to be the best way to build a team is not the only way, or even truly the best way. Maybe I'm wrong. If you can build a winner doing things differently than I would, good for you, you deserve credit. Kenny has made individual trades that I may have not made. But he has put together a great team, that cannot be denied. So I can give him credit for a job well done. I'm not saying he's the best GM in the game, or that I want him to be the next GM of the Cubs. But he's done a much better job than Hendry, and he deserves credit for a job well done.

[goonys evil twin]

it just goes to show how assumptions stated as facts can be misleading. if you want to call that semantics be my guest. i also consider it a valid question and not a "smartass line". whos to say that williams is a supposedly lesser gm btw-he's the one with the ws ring. unless one subscribes to the fact that he's not good but lucky (which is VERY hard to do in a full season & post season in baseball imo).

 

That didn't go to show anybody anything. What is the point you are trying to make? Is there one, or are you just trying to start stuff with me, again?

[UK1679666180]

Took a risk on Jenks.

 

I wanted the Cubs to sign Jenks. No risk involved.

[BigbadB]

The reason some people ask you how you know these things is because sometimes in the middle of your Hendry rants you start spouting things out as if their facts. Then whenever someone calls you on it you get all defensive. Like the other day when you stated that Hendry didn't try to bring Giles here. I asked you how you knew this and you blew up. If you're just going to make things up when bashing Hendry try not to get so defensive when called on it. You call enough people out that you'd think you would understand this.

 

Since when did everything have to be proven as fact in order to post here? From the day I started posting here, I've always been under the impression that a message board was about expressing one's opinions.

 

The problem isn't Goony providing facts to back up his opinion, but rather your lack of ability to provide baseball discussion in a baseball discussion forum.

 

Since you know already that Goony cannot back up his opinion with fact, instead of calling him out, why don't you just disagree with his opinion and provide some opinions of your own. Opinions that discuss the topic at hand, of course, rather than trying to run down another poster.

[Kingmanarama]

Yes, I didn't bother going into the offense. Yes ,Iguchi had a very good year for them. As did Dye. But did they do more than prevent the offense from being terrible? The team's success can't be tied to what the offense did. And he didn't build a great team. He put together a team whose offensive production was lacking and whose pitching production was amazing. It was all about their pitching. But where were KW's great moves with the pitching staff? How likely is it for their staff to repeat their great success?

 

I'm not defending Hendry. He's been very disappointing. But how much more credit should he deserve if the Cubs were to have won it all in 2003? Just because KW has a ring doesn't mean he's done a very good job. As the Cubs have shown, relying on all of your pitchers to click in one year with barely adequate offensive production is not a very strong strategy.

 

Kenny Williams has built an organization that seems to be very good at helping talented players, particularly pitchers, maximize their talent. I'm sure he feels like the White Sox coaches and scouting staff can help Vazquez get back to where he was from 2001-2003. And if Vazquez returns to that form, he'll be the best starter in a very good rotation.

 

The fact that Kenny Williams has a ring, his team is an obvious contender in '06 and '07, and they're selling plenty of tickets does, in fact, mean that he has done a good job. It's all anyone can expect from a GM, isn't it? Unless you consider probabilistic performance more important than actual performance, it's tough to be critical of Williams.

 

I'm sounding like a Sox troll, so I'll stop. (I am, in fact, a Cubs season ticket holder.)

[mg420]

it just goes to show how assumptions stated as facts can be misleading. if you want to call that semantics be my guest. i also consider it a valid question and not a "smartass line". whos to say that williams is a supposedly lesser gm btw-he's the one with the ws ring. unless one subscribes to the fact that he's not good but lucky (which is VERY hard to do in a full season & post season in baseball imo).

 

That didn't go to show anybody anything. What is the point you are trying to make? Is there one, or are you just trying to start stuff with me, again?

 

i guess you are speaking for eveyone then.

[goonys evil twin]

The reason some people ask you how you know these things is because sometimes in the middle of your Hendry rants you start spouting things out as if their facts. Then whenever someone calls you on it you get all defensive. Like the other day when you stated that Hendry didn't try to bring Giles here. I asked you how you knew this and you blew up. If you're just going to make things up when bashing Hendry try not to get so defensive when called on it. You call enough people out that you'd think you would understand this.

 

Oh please.

 

If somebody doesn't want to believe every single report that is made available to the public, and draw reasonable conclusions, go ahead. If you want to give Hendry every benefit of the doubt and just assume he tried really hard to get Giles, or any of the Japanese players, feel free. But until you have a fraction of the support for your argument that I have for mine, don't try pretending I'm the one who is misrepresenting the issue. I never said it was a cold stone fact that Hendry didn't do this or that. The only facts are that he failed to get the player, and that he failed to field a great team. Whenever we talk about any of this stuff, cold hard facts are difficult to come by. If you don't want to talk about Cubs transactions because we don't have any hard facts about the situation, then don't talk about them. But don't go accusing me of passing off fiction as fact and pretending your some hero out to stop my evil ways.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

it just goes to show how assumptions stated as facts can be misleading. if you want to call that semantics be my guest. i also consider it a valid question and not a "smartass line". whos to say that williams is a supposedly lesser gm btw-he's the one with the ws ring. unless one subscribes to the fact that he's not good but lucky (which is VERY hard to do in a full season & post season in baseball imo).

 

That didn't go to show anybody anything. What is the point you are trying to make? Is there one, or are you just trying to start stuff with me, again?

 

i guess you are speaking for eveyone then.

 

Honestly, I agree with goony. It's not like you backed up your comment with anything. It came off like a flip remark to me.

[CubinNY]

it just goes to show how assumptions stated as facts can be misleading. if you want to call that semantics be my guest. i also consider it a valid question and not a "smartass line". whos to say that williams is a supposedly lesser gm btw-he's the one with the ws ring. unless one subscribes to the fact that he's not good but lucky (which is VERY hard to do in a full season & post season in baseball imo).

 

If you can point to one article written by any news source that Hendry has been interested in any Pacific Rim player since Hee Sop Choi and Jae Kuk Ryu I'd really like to see it/them.

 

Untill then the absence of evidence does equal the evidence of absence no matter what Dick Cheney wants us to believe.

[mg420]

The reason some people ask you how you know these things is because sometimes in the middle of your Hendry rants you start spouting things out as if their facts. Then whenever someone calls you on it you get all defensive. Like the other day when you stated that Hendry didn't try to bring Giles here. I asked you how you knew this and you blew up. If you're just going to make things up when bashing Hendry try not to get so defensive when called on it. You call enough people out that you'd think you would understand this.

 

Since when did everything have to be proven as fact in order to post here? From the day I started posting here, I've always been under the impression that a message board was about expressing one's opinions.

 

The problem isn't Goony providing facts to back up his opinion, but rather your lack of ability to provide baseball discussion in a baseball discussion forum.

 

Since you know already that Goony cannot back up his opinion with fact, instead of calling him out, why don't you just disagree with his opinion and provide some opinions of your own. Opinions that discuss the topic at hand, of course, rather than trying to run down another poster.

 

i think the issue is that people's assumptions are being posted as if they are facts and these assumptions are the basis of their arguments.

[nick23]

I keep seeing these posts that say Hendry's teams have regressed every year since he took over, and he hasn't improved the team since the "not so good" 2003 team. I 100% disagree with this. Hendry very much improved the 2004 team. He traded for Lee, signed Maddux, Latroy and Dempster, then traded for Nomar at the break. We were loaded that year IMO. He can't help the injuries. I'll admit he did a very poor job assembling the 05 team, but to say he's been asleep at the wheel just isn't accurate.

[BigbadB]

They are opinions, people. No one posting here is Jim Hendry. Once you understand this, feel free to agree or disagree with the poster, but leave the personal stuff out of it.