Right Field Preference

[AFCubsFan]

what a surprise, the cabal is all together on this.

 

its a ridiculous statement because a lineup of

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Aram

Bradley/Wilkerson/Green/Floyd/Huff

Murton

Barrett

Cedeno

 

is nothing to vomit at.

 

it would easily be a top 3 offense in the National League. most probably 6 players with OPS over .800, possibly 3 over .900, and almost certainly 6-7 players with OBP's over .350.

 

but we all know you guys will keep ranting how Hendry hasn't done his job until the lineup is

 

Wilkerson

Kent

Lee

Dunn

Aram

Abreu

Tejada

Veritek

 

and at that point you'll start bitching that the Cubs didn't get Pujols to replace Lee, the shortstop's obp is too low, and they should have signed Clemens.

 

First of all, take Cedeno and Murton out. They are too young, Dusty will not play them. He may give them some inconsistent playing time at first...but they will be benched. Mabry and Neifi will take their spots in the lineup. Also be on the lookout for a replacement Macias.

 

There has been a lot of talk about Walker not being on the team next year...I'm inclined to believe it. I wish the team would keep Walker, but I'm not sure that's going to happen. I believe Dusty is prejudiced against him because of his name "Walker." You don't walk runs in, you hit them in. It's called hitting, not walking. I don't look for much improvement from this position.

 

Our real lineup:

 

Pierre

Neifi

D Lee

ARam

Mabry or the Mystery RF

Same as above

Barrett or Mystery 2B

Same as above

 

There is a chance the Mystery 2B and Neifi could switch places in the lineup. We also don't know that any of the players you mentioned for RF will actually be a Cub on opening day. So...yeah...the lineup is disgusting right now. The good news is that the best and easiest options are gone....I mean...that it's only December and there's still time for improvement. Oh, you should also factor in DL time for ARam and his annual groin injury.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

1. Bobby Abreu

2. Aubrey Huff

3. Raul Ibanez

4. Nick Swisher

5. Kevin Mench

6. Chad Tracy

7. Brad Wilkerson

8. Austin Kearns

9. Ryan Klesko (if half the contract picked up)

[Ding Dong Johnson]

its a ridiculous statement because a lineup of

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Aram

Bradley/Wilkerson/Green/Floyd/Huff

Murton

Barrett

Cedeno

 

is nothing to vomit at.

 

it would easily be a top 3 offense in the National League.

 

1) We have the resources to do much, much better than just Bradley/Wilkerson/Green/Floyd/Huff. We should not settle for a choice in this group. We need an impact bat, unless Tejada is acquired. If so, skip the rest of this post.

2) Acquiring Bradley/Wilkerson/Green/Floyd/Huff will likely come at the price of losing Walker as well. (your #2 hitter above is gone, likely replaced by Neifi of the 681 OPS)

3) With #2 above, this lineup is marginally better than the 2005 lineup. (#4 in OPS, but #9 in runs scored, most importantly, #4 in the division)

[CubinNY]

Wow, I leave for a few hours to watch the lefty movie syriana and found that someone was upset with my vomit post.

 

Excuse me.

 

But that list was pathetic

 

Wilkerson or Bradley- My top 2 are not really RFers and probably wouldn't prduce enough offense to make a meaningfull difference.

 

The rest just, bleck

 

Mr. Trueblue, just put me on ignore already. This will save all of some consternation, no?

[wastra]

I really don't seen anyone in that list making a real difference either. The two biggest impact bats are likely Floyd (who isn't available, and is too oft-injured) and Bradley (who is a serious headcase.)

 

 

Wilkerson is no sure thing offensively, nor is Huff. Green is considerably older than most of hte others and past his prime as well.

 

 

 

I have very little doubts that our outfield in 2006 will actually be WORSE than our outfield in 2005. And I think the smart money is on Mabry starting 100 games at either Left or Right this year. He's got time to redeem himself, but as of now, I'm fully on the "Fire Hendry" bandwagon, as he's done nothing to show that he's even competent in this role. He did a great job for a while building a farm system, but his bungling of the major league team for going on 3 years is indefensible.

[Guest]

I have very little doubts that our outfield in 2006 will actually be WORSE than our outfield in 2005.

I don't mean to sound optimistic here, but it would be an impressive feat if our 2006 OF turns out worse than the 2005 version. (Impressive in an extremely depressing way, of course.) While it's pretty much guranteed Murton won't give us anything close to the .900+ OPS we got from him last year, he's still a good bet to outproduce the abysmal production that we got from Hollandsworth/Dubois/three weeks of Lawton. Our CF situation is similar; Pierre isn't the greatest CF out there but he'll likely put up decent numbers, and decent is a far sight better than Corey was last year. And as much as we'd all hate to see someone like Jones manning RF next spring, he probably wouldn't be much worse than Burnitz was last year.

 

In short, it's practically impossible to have a worse OF than the Cubs did in 2005. If Mabry ends up getting a significant chunk of playing time in a corner spot as you predict it may happen, but I'm guessing Hendry will do something to add another OF. (Probably not a very good one, but I doubt we'll have to resort to Mabry for a starter's role.)

 

All that being said, it's looking more and more like the 2006 OF won't be much better than it was in 2005. And that's completely unacceptable.

[soapy]

All that being said, it's looking more and more like the 2006 OF won't be much better than it was in 2005. And that's completely unacceptable.

 

Especially when you consider that the Cubs are seemingly dying to trade Walker, Cedeno/Neifi could be abysmal at SS (especially if they both have to start at 2B/SS), and Lee probably won't put up the numbers he had last year. Hopefully Ramirez can stay healthy.

 

Even with the upgrade in LF and CF, the offense overall really could be worse in 2006.

[YearofDaCubs]

So let;s get this straight. We don't have Nomar anymore at SS. 2B will probably end up being Neifi's position. We currently do not have a RF and if we do look a FA additions for the position they are weak. So with all the money we had to spend what exactly had Hendry done to upgrade the offense? Pierre was a good piece but we still have glaring holes. I mean say we sign JJones or Encarnacion look at the lineup do you guys even think that is such a huge improvement over last year? I have no faith in Hendry or this organization anymore. This is starting to get really bad.

[StMarksCubs]

Rumor has it Hendry is in touch with Brant Brown's agent...

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Scott Bullett and Ozzie Timmons: get ready for that ST invite...

[Magnetic Curses]

So let;s get this straight. We don't have Nomar anymore at SS. 2B will probably end up being Neifi's position. We currently do not have a RF and if we do look a FA additions for the position they are weak. So with all the money we had to spend what exactly had Hendry done to upgrade the offense? Pierre was a good piece but we still have glaring holes. I mean say we sign JJones or Encarnacion look at the lineup do you guys even think that is such a huge improvement over last year? I have no faith in Hendry or this organization anymore. This is starting to get really bad.

 

you're forgetting that wood may not be ready for the opener.

 

hendry's already failed, this team is a mess and there's virtually no way of improving it at this point.

 

i honestly don't know what hendry is thinking other than " i don't want to keep my job".

[professahesse]

Assuming we go with Cedeno and Walker in the infield what would your preference be for RF. I also believe that Abreu is not going anywhere so leave him out. I have seen many names mentioned and here are the people whos names we have heard. I am assuming Huff, Bradley, Wilkerson, Floyd, J. Jones, Sanders, Green, Kearns, Mench, Nixon

 

What of these would you prefer?

 

List your top five out of these ten

 

1) Floyd

2) Huff

3) Bradley

4) Green

5) Nixon

 

At this point Patterson. Honestly, I haven't completely lost faith in him, and if he hit .275+, had 20+ HRs, good RBI production and had 25+ SBs he'd be our best option and give us better D in RF. I'd take Floyd as the best of your above options (if he was available) but still think CPAT should be our first option.

[sethuel1]

Assuming we go with Cedeno and Walker in the infield what would your preference be for RF. I also believe that Abreu is not going anywhere so leave him out. I have seen many names mentioned and here are the people whos names we have heard. I am assuming Huff, Bradley, Wilkerson, Floyd, J. Jones, Sanders, Green, Kearns, Mench, Nixon

 

What of these would you prefer?

 

List your top five out of these ten

 

1) Floyd

2) Huff

3) Bradley

4) Green

5) Nixon

 

At this point Patterson. Honestly, I haven't completely lost faith in him, and if he hit .275+, had 20+ HRs, good RBI production and had 25+ SBs he'd be our best option and give us better D in RF. I'd take Floyd as the best of your above options (if he was available) but still think CPAT should be our first option.

As much as I enjoy the fact that you just made a CPAT argument in about, oh

 

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5 threads in a 45 minute span, and did your darndest to make it look like a good idea, it's still, unfortunately, a bad idea.

 

CPAT in center was a bad enough idea. Even the Cubs figured that one out. So how would CPAT in right, a position where an offensive threat is even more of a requirement than center, not a terrible idea?

[professahesse]

He's 27-28 yrs. old, got speed, plays decent defense, his 2003 and 04 stats show promise, he's fairly cheap for his potential, I think the team will be carried by the pitching staff and odds are that we'll have a healthier staff this year, fits the Pierre new paradigm of speed......anything else you'd like me to add except that he had a bad year last year?

[badgercub]

He's 27-28 yrs. old, got speed, plays decent defense, his 2003 and 04 stats show promise, he's fairly cheap for his potential, I think the team will be carried by the pitching staff and odds are that we'll have a healthier staff this year, fits the Pierre new paradigm of speed......anything else you'd like me to add except that he had a bad year last year?

 

I would make the arguement that Patterson has had one good half year, and one average year for a CF. When you move him to right field he had a half year that would have been acceptable, other than that your argument to move CPatt to RF does not hold any water. The guy has a career Ave. and OBP that are horrible. Burnitz would be a better option.

[Kingmanarama]

Aren't other teams courting Nomar as a potential right fielder? That doesn't seem too crazy, especially if you can get him for the same dollars and fewer years than Jones. Although, as with Bradley, you'd want to have a decent 4th outfielder who can step in for the 30-60 games that Nomar won't play.

 

Ack.

 

Can't the Cubs just reconfigure Wrigley so that there isn't a right field anymore? Seems like they could add about 5,000 bleacher seats that way.

[goonys evil twin]

Can't the Cubs just reconfigure Wrigley so that there isn't a right field anymore? Seems like they could add about 5,000 bleacher seats that way.

 

If you bring in the seats closer to the field, there will be more homeruns. And since the Cubs have no LH power, but their opposition usually will, that would be a disadvantage to the Cubs. I'm thinking they need a giant piece of plexiglass in short right center. Then sell tickets to the blocked off area as lawn seating. The money and/or prospects meant to go toward the acquisition of a RF can go into pitching, and a 5th infielder to help catch the ball and prevent Ramirez from having to move more than a couple feet in either direction.