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Assuming we go with Cedeno and Walker in the infield what would your preference be for RF. I also believe that Abreu is not going anywhere so leave him out. I have seen many names mentioned and here are the people whos names we have heard. I am assuming Huff, Bradley, Wilkerson, Floyd, J. Jones, Sanders, Green, Kearns, Mench, Nixon

 

What of these would you prefer?

 

List your top five out of these ten

 

I don't believe it makes much sense to arbitrarily leave out Abreu. He could be available. The Phillies may be more willing to trade him than the Mets with Floyd, who they have said is not going anywhere. And I'm not convinced the Cubs couldn't get Drew either, depending on just what is going on there in LA. New GMs often like to shake up the old GMs work.

 

Of the 10 you list, I'd have to take 2 at a time, a platoon. So, Huff/Kearns or Mench/Nixon.

 

I really won't like the look of this team if they take only one of those guys and make no other improvements. But if I listed it I guess it would be Floyd, Bradley, Wilkerson, Huff, Green.

 

If they don't go big, the Cubs do have the money and resources to get 2 more OF bats, and allow them to split the 1400 PA between those 2 and Murton. 2 other names I'd like to explore would be Jenkins, if MIL wants to dump his salary and he can be paired with a platoon mate (because he rocks RHP but doesn't play 155 games a year), and Jose Guillen (who is approaching free agency and is also not a 155 game a year player).

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i don't know this, which is why i'm asking. two parter:

 

how much of thome's contract are the phils paying?

 

if any, is it reasonable to think that we could pick up whetever they're paying for thome in a deal for abreu?

 

might make us a bit more attractive a trading partner.

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i don't know this, which is why i'm asking. two parter:

 

how much of thome's contract are the phils paying?

 

if any, is it reasonable to think that we could pick up whetever they're paying for thome in a deal for abreu?

 

might make us a bit more attractive a trading partner.

 

Thome was traded to the White Sox last month.

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i don't know this, which is why i'm asking. two parter:

 

how much of thome's contract are the phils paying?

 

if any, is it reasonable to think that we could pick up whetever they're paying for thome in a deal for abreu?

 

might make us a bit more attractive a trading partner.

 

Thome was traded to the White Sox last month.

 

And Philly is paying part of his salary.

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Dunn

Bradley

Wilkerson

Green

Huff

Kearns

 

I'd also like to see us keep Patterson around on the bench and give him a fighting shot for a spot in ST. Worst case scenario he's a great defensive replacement for Murton/Pierre/RF.

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i don't know this, which is why i'm asking. two parter:

 

how much of thome's contract are the phils paying?

 

if any, is it reasonable to think that we could pick up whetever they're paying for thome in a deal for abreu?

 

might make us a bit more attractive a trading partner.

 

Thome was traded to the White Sox last month.

 

you....don't......say...... :wink:

 

i know that rais, but my question is: would it be possible for the cubs to pick up the portion of his deal that the phils are still paying?

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i don't know this, which is why i'm asking. two parter:

 

how much of thome's contract are the phils paying?

 

if any, is it reasonable to think that we could pick up whetever they're paying for thome in a deal for abreu?

 

might make us a bit more attractive a trading partner.

 

Thome was traded to the White Sox last month.

 

And Philly is paying part of his salary.

 

I heard they picked up $22m, or about half. Not sure how that is broken down, but it's a pretty significant amount. And the fact that they had to pick up that much of his deal, and still are desperate for pitching, makes me think that Abreu really will still be available. Burrell, Utley and Howard are the face of that organization. I think it's still a possibility.

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i know that rais, but my question is: would it be possible for the cubs to pick up the portion of his deal that the phils are still paying?

 

I don't know if they can specifically pick up that money, but they can send cash back. But it supposedly has to pass the commish's desk. And while he's let most financial transactions go by, he has a rejected a handful. This may have been easier to pull off if the Cubs got involed in the Thome deal as a middle man.

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i know that rais, but my question is: would it be possible for the cubs to pick up the portion of his deal that the phils are still paying?

 

I don't know if they can specifically pick up that money, but they can send cash back. But it supposedly has to pass the commish's desk. And while he's let most financial transactions go by, he has a rejected a handful. This may have been easier to pull off if the Cubs got involed in the Thome deal as a middle man.

 

kind of like how the marlins are paying for hampton?

 

right now, there isn;t a package that the cubs sould offer that couldn't be bested by a competitor, unless the cubs were willing to pick up MORE than abreu's total salary.

 

the cubs have little to offer but cash now, thanks to hendry.

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Most realistic list:

Knowing that Abreu,Dunn,Green & Tracy won't be available:

 

Huff

Wilkerson

Mench

Kearns

Ibanez

Bradley

 

No need to be realistic here, there's a whole other thread for that.

Posted
This list makes me want to vomit.

Some people bring something to the table, other don't.

 

um.....he brings a lot more to the table than you do.

play nice, boys

Posted
This list makes me want to vomit.

Some people bring something to the table, other don't.

 

um.....he brings a lot more to the table than you do.

 

Defending posts like that is laughable!

Posted
This list makes me want to vomit.

Some people bring something to the table, other don't.

 

um.....he brings a lot more to the table than you do.

play nice, boys

 

i'm playing nice, merely responding to a ridiculous statement made regarding a respected member of this board.

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This list makes me want to vomit.

Some people bring something to the table, other don't.

 

um.....he brings a lot more to the table than you do.

 

Defending posts like that is laughable!

 

look, i'm not searching for an argument nor defending a post, i'm just calling it how i see it.

Posted
This list makes me want to vomit.

Some people bring something to the table, other don't.

 

um.....he brings a lot more to the table than you do.

play nice, boys

 

i'm playing nice, merely responding to a ridiculous statement made regarding a respected member of this board.

 

hey, it's my favorite phrase. what happened to "long-time?"

 

it was a ridiculous statement...about another ridiculous statement.

 

I'm sure NY earned his respect with better comments than this and by standing up for himself.

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hey, it's my favorite phrase. what happened to "long-time?"

 

it was a ridiculous statement...about another ridiculous statement.

 

I'm sure NY earned his respect with better comments than this and by standing up for himself.

 

What was a ridiculous statement? The puke one? Wasn't he just expressing frustration about the thought that the Cubs, with all their resources, are looking like they will fill their huge RF hole with a less than huge bat? What's wrong with being disgusted by that?

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hey, it's my favorite phrase. what happened to "long-time?"

 

it was a ridiculous statement...about another ridiculous statement.

 

I'm sure NY earned his respect with better comments than this and by standing up for himself.

 

What was a ridiculous statement? The puke one? Wasn't he just expressing frustration about the thought that the Cubs, with all their resources, are looking like they will fill their huge RF hole with a less than huge bat? What's wrong with being disgusted by that?

 

It sure as hell makes me sick.

Posted
This list makes me want to vomit.

Some people bring something to the table, other don't.

 

um.....he brings a lot more to the table than you do.

play nice, boys

 

i'm playing nice, merely responding to a ridiculous statement made regarding a respected member of this board.

 

hey, it's my favorite phrase. what happened to "long-time?"

 

it was a ridiculous statement...about another ridiculous statement.

 

I'm sure NY earned his respect with better comments than this and by standing up for himself.

 

as goony has stated, he was showing disgust at the dearth of RF options before us. this IS A MESSAGE BOARD, he's free to express his disappointment in cubs management.

 

and i will defend people who have come to my defense if i feel that they have been personally attacked.

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what a surprise, the cabal is all together on this.

 

its a ridiculous statement because a lineup of

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Aram

Bradley/Wilkerson/Green/Floyd/Huff

Murton

Barrett

Cedeno

 

is nothing to vomit at.

 

it would easily be a top 3 offense in the National League. most probably 6 players with OPS over .800, possibly 3 over .900, and almost certainly 6-7 players with OBP's over .350.

 

but we all know you guys will keep ranting how Hendry hasn't done his job until the lineup is

 

Wilkerson

Kent

Lee

Dunn

Aram

Abreu

Tejada

Veritek

 

and at that point you'll start bitching that the Cubs didn't get Pujols to replace Lee, the shortstop's obp is too low, and they should have signed Clemens.

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what a surprise, the cabal is all together on this.

 

its a ridiculous statement because a lineup of

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Aram

Bradley/Wilkerson/Green/Floyd/Huff

Murton

Barrett

Cedeno

 

is nothing to vomit at.

 

it would easily be a top 3 offense in the National League. most probably 6 players with OPS over .800, possibly 3 over .900, and almost certainly 6-7 players with OBP's over .350.

 

but we all know you guys will keep ranting how Hendry hasn't done his job until the lineup is

 

Wilkerson

Kent

Lee

Dunn

Aram

Abreu

Tejada

Veritek

 

and at that point you'll start bitching that the Cubs didn't get Pujols to replace Lee, the shortstop's obp is too low, and they should have signed Clemens.

 

Looks like we have another self annointed martyr. That lineup would not easily be top 3. It would also have to come with significant bench and pitching upgrades to justify the money Hendry would have spent on it. Your numbers breakdowns only take into account the best possible scenario. They are more likely to have 4 sub 800 OPS players than 6 over 800 OPS guys.

 

Why do you care if somebody doesn't like the direction Hendry is going?

Posted

 

Why do you care if somebody doesn't like the direction Hendry is going?

 

why do you care if somebody doesn't like NY's post?

 

Why do you feel the need to moderate this thread? If it doesn't go back to baseball discussion immediately, this thread will be locked.

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