I think much of the "debate" is like two ships passing in the night and never catching sight of one another. No one to my knowledge has said that speed is a bad things. All else equal give me the faster guy. I think what has been discussed is the value of speed as a stand alone tool. In my opinon as a stand alone it has no real value at all. hits with speed>hits power with speed>power Field/arm with speed>field/arm Plate discipline with speed>plate discipline speed without any of the above = speed speed without any of the above = go run track, you no hit, no power, no glove, no arm, no eye loser.