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  1. Not in the scenerio banks laid out. If they get a starter in a trade (let’s say Cabrera) they then start the season with 5 definite starters. Now if Steele comes back and there are no injuries they have 6. They still probably have Rea, and 2 of the following (Wicks, Brown, Assad) plus the possibility of Wiggins coming up. They can absolutely be in the race and winning the division and still trade Taillon. This is provided they are getting good results from the other pitchers. Shota looks like 2024 Shota, Steele if pitching injury free, Boyd is doing well and Horton and Cabrera are also doing well. They can afford to deal Taillon at the deadline even if they are winning the division.
  2. They are getting a pick for Tucker, so I don’t see them shying away from a guy with a QO either. I think the bigger issue is they only have maybe $45M to work with to stay below the LT line. Need a couple of pen arms(at least) one right handed bat who can play first and then another SP. That is tough to do on $45M unless the pitcher comes in a trade and is controllable only making $6M to $10M. And this is assuming Alcantara is the 4th outfielder and either Mo or Cassie is the left handed DH. They can do it, but they have to fill a need cheaply.
  3. I agree. I also do not see how they are not competing at the TDL. Add a MOR starter, a couple of pen arms and a bench bat who hits right handed and can play 1st base and they are definitely contending. They should do more, but at the very least they will still be an 88-92 win team. I think Imanaga signing makes it more likely that pitcher comes through a trade rather than FA. But I think it will come. Cabrera, Rasmussen, Gore or Ryan are options.
  4. Yes, love to hear what Jason has to say. I don’t agree with Chibear at all, but wondering if others think they won’t compete.
  5. You view things way different than most. If they are flipping guys they are not in contention. They will be in contention. And they will add another pitcher this off season. Might have to be via a trade now. The rotation is not set. Injuries happen.
  6. I wish they didn’t offer it to him.
  7. Definitely alters the plans on adding 2 pitchers. Probably also takes them out if the high end market. No way around it, this hurt the off season plans. I honestly would have let him walk. Said it when they made the offer. In fact I said they would not even consider making the offer because I was sure he would take Not a fan of this move by the Cubs.
  8. I think he should take it. But maybe he doesn’t. 🤷
  9. If those are your options I hope you have your affairs in order for your loved ones.
  10. Goldy would be good. TBH, if they added him and then maybe Castro or Moncada to the bench with the back up catcher and maybe Alcantara as a 4th outfielder that wouldn’t be too bad.. the last guy would be Cassie or Mo. whoever they don’t trade. But if they did this, they better put a lot of money into the rotation and pen.
  11. He has played over 200 games at 3rd base in his career. Honestly, doesn’t matter really. Fact is he would be mainly a right handed hitter to fill in for Busch and also DH some. But he also would play 3rd. Not well and not often, assuming Shaw is healthy. But he would see time there. Not a choice I would be happy with for the Cubs, but more likely than getting Jung or Smith, which was the actual point of my post.
  12. Sadly, if they are talking with Texas I think the most likely outcome would be Burger. Right handed bat who plays first and third. Can also DH against a lefty.
  13. Quick question. What was wrong with the original Happ extension? You said you were against it. Why? He has absolutely outperformed the contract dollars. Not sure about another extension. I agree with you there. But for the right price he would be fine another 3 years. That said, I would be fine moving on.
  14. If it’s Cease instead of the $15M to $20M pitcher then Okamoto becomes Andujar or Moncada. 🤷 Maybe Bohm.
  15. 😄 my guess is you meant to respond to a different post. Either that or you liked your fist comment so much you decided to double down and agree with yourself.
  16. Timing also plays a part in this. If they sign a FA first he is 1 of 4 to start the season. So he would assume to be a sure rotation piece. TBH, I don’t think the FA starter they do sign will worry about completion. IMO that person will have a spot regardless if they then trade for one and Steele comes back. Even Woodruff. If he is healthy he is pitching in the rotation. Period.
  17. So if Shota declines the option and the Cubs trade for a pitcher and sign one that gives them 5. Rea would be 6. Then between Wicks, Assad and Brown, assuming one is traded as a piece to get a solid TOR starter, that gives you 2 more. This is pretty much what I believe the rotation should look like. 5 clear starters on April 1st and Steele coming sometime in May. Maybe Wiggins after the ASB. There will be injuries.
  18. Well if Woodruff would have issues joining the team because they might have 6 pitchers, wouldn’t that go for the others too? If they trade for a pitcher and you count Steele that gives them 5. So if Woodruff wouldn’t sign here for that reason, who would? I, personally, do not think it is a problem. Even absolute best case scenerio(which we know will not happen) with 6 starters you can always skip a start by someone each time through. Maybe Horton or Boyd go to the pen one time through the rotation. Maybe Woodruff gets skipped for load management. Maybe Steele gets skipped for the same reason. Maybe Taillon is traded at the deadline. So many ways to have it work, and that is assuming all are healthy. As Bertz pointed out, you need 7 or 8 who you are comfortable starting. Injuries happen. And, with Woodruff, in particular, he might like the idea of a team being able to give him time off. Might keep him healthy all year.
  19. With the way pitchers get hurt or miss starts, I don’t think 6 starters is that odd. Plus, who knows what Steele gives them. Rea would be a multi inning swing starter. Assad might be used in a trade. If Cassie was in a trade they could go Ballesteros as the DH and Alcantara as the 4th outfielder. That would leave them needing a right handed bat who can play corner infield (Andujar or Bohm are examples) and a back up middle infielder. Maybe a left handed or switch hitting bat. I think we all know they aren’t going big on a bat. I don’t disagree with you on Alonso, but they won’t do that.
  20. I think that depending on who they get via a trade for a pitcher, the extra money goes towards the pen. For the sake of this conversation let’s say they get Woodruff and trade for Cabrera. Then they sign Andujar as a bench bat. They should still have a good chunk of money left. Maybe they extend PCA. Still there will be money. So the pen can be more than dumpster dive pitchers. Maybe Fairbanks and Keller. Plus get a lefty or two. And/or, as you mentioned, maybe they trade for one of those pitchers and extend them too. I just hope they do spend more than last off season. I am not sure they will, but I certainly hope they do. And if they do, there are several paths to being a very good team next season.
  21. Sure. A lot of potential. I would rather it be Cabrera, over Alcantara. But those guys work fine. As you said, some injury concerns, but definitely left up side guys.
  22. I don’t think anyone here would argue that. And if Shota declines the QO, they need two starters. One TOR and another MOR. Need to come out of the off season with one of the top FA pitchers or a trade for someone like Ryan, Gore, Cabrera. And if Shota declines, maybe one via trade and one as a FA. Get two high end starters.
  23. And, IMO, a sneaky solid off season, assuming we also add a few pen arms. Let’s say Fairbanks plus a solid lefty pen arm and since we are getting Cabrera let’s make a bigger deal and get one of their pen arms too. Cassie, Brown, Long and maybe another piece, depending on the pen arm we get back.
  24. My bad. Missed that. Thank you.
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