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Hoyer sure loves his old guys that cant hit for the bench.
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Rereading his statement, I think he was mainly referring to the Dodgers and their large contingent of adding Japanese players. I dont think he was saying he wouldn't choose any team if they had Japanese players on them or play with Japanese players. My point with Cubs and Yankees was just that eventhough the Cubs have 2 on roster, they both will likely be gone after this season, and just because the Yankees don't have one on their team now, doesn't mean they wont add one because of his preference. I do agree that between the two teams theres a high likelihood he would choose the Yankees but I don't think it would be because of Cubs currently having Japanese players and the Yankees dont.
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Ok, but do you think the Yankees will forfeit their right to go after Japanese players over the next couple years because of what Imai said? I highly doubt it and I doubt Imai would expect them too. I personally feel Imai just said what he'd prefers but realizes it not really something that guarenteed in today mlb with players posting every year, and especially with the Yankees.
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Even if he 100% meant that, both Suzuki and Imanaga are likely gone after the season, so he'd only be playing with them for 1 season. Also I would hope he understands that these teams like Chicago, NewYork, LA and most others are not going to just stop trying to add really good Japanese players just to appease him for however long he's with them. Out of curiosity I looked it up and there are actually 3 teams who hasn't signed a Japanese player from NPB, the Astros, Rockies, and Marlins.
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If Hoyer trades Hoerner, Bichette reportedly said he would be open to play 2B yesterday. He would likely be cheaper then Bregman if they can get him with a Swanson type offer of around 7/170. I like Hoerner, but what you lose with the glove at 2B, you gain with the bat, especially power, and who knows maybe in a couple years if Rojas and or Hernandez is ready, they can move Bichette to 3B.
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Hopefully Imanaga and Suzuki has been having conversations with Imai about how good it is to live and play for the Cubs... 🤷♂️😏
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Maybe it plan B if he doesn't land Imai or King but you have to wonder if Hoyer could be hesitant in trading those top guys with the probability of needing them to replace the ones on their final year of contract. There really isnt a top position player prospects to turn to after Caissie Ballesteros and Alcantara until maybe 2028 with Rojas or Hernandez.
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I just threw Gallen name out there, I guess they could also go for Valdez and Suarez too if they want to add another lefty and lose out on King. A trade is also a route to take but I do wonder if Hoyer is willing to move any of his current top prospects now for a top end SP. Let just hope they get Imai and can move on to the next need, a solid bat
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Ok, if it was on the winter meetings thread it locked so I didn't bother looking there
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Supposedly down to Yankees and Cubs for Imai, I guess if true, if the Cubs are willing to spend on Imai, if they lose out there then they should be all in on King or maybe Gallen.
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Keller 2 years with the Phillies
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So far the Cubs main additions to the roster has been Hoby Milner, Maton and Theilbar, all bullpen guys.
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I agree, I mean if the offer to Bregman was 4/120 with 2 opt outs last year, I just dont see them making any kind of better offer this year for him, I wouldn't put it pass them if their offer if made was 3/90..lol This was part of why I never believed that there was ever a big interest in him, that zoom meeting probably lasted 5 minutes and was probably basically just the Cubs asking if he'd accept that 4/120 now and he said nope...
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I would of accepted that but when you called me champ(I took it as funny), I had to reply back with champ too...lol
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It no big deal now, but this is what I saw Cuzi responding to and why I thought he was talking about now... No where does it say anything about getting Bregman LAST YEAR... But he said he was referring to last year then ok, we move on
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Theyre nice additions, I just find it amusing how Hoyer likes his old bullpen guys and for that matter he seems to always add an older bench bat too.
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Your response was to Bertz about Bregman this offseason, and saying he's trying to save his job. My response to you was just that he doesn't need to try and save his job because he just signed an extension and is safe
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Same point Champ....lol
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Save his job ???? He just signed an extension for 5 more years. Jed will be the Cubs POBO until like Theo hes ready to step down and that wont be until at least 2030.
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Thielbar had a nice year for them but let not ignore hes going to be 39, so a drop-off in what he did last season wouldn't be surprising... Hoyer loves his older bullpen guys, probably because he can get them on 1-2 yr deals. So far his pen additions are Theilbar (39) Milner (35) and Maton (33)
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Part of me think he inked Dansby to the 7 yrs was because he was set on bringing in one of the 4 SS that offseason and waited it out to where Swanson was his last option and he had to go 7 yrs to get him
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I didn't care about the money part of things back then, I was just happy to see them add another big bat to go with Lee and Ramirez, brought in Pinella and actually try and win games again.
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Soriano was 31 when he got an 8 yr contract.. I personally have no gripe about it. My bringing up Soriano is mainly in my thinking of why Hoyer might be hesitant in giving out those type of contracts (8+yrs)length wise and giving them out to guys that 30+. He was the GM when he and Theo were trying to trade Soriano towards the end of that contract but couldn't get any takers because of Soriano age and money owed, they finally got the Yankees to bite but had to pay part of the contract just to get back a low level pitcher in return. Heyward was Theo guy. Swanson the only guy he has signed so far for 7 yrs. Yes majority of FA now are 30 or close to it and so far in Hoyers 6th offseason as POBO, outside of Swanson(28), he hasn't inked anyone for more than 5 years, they've been 3-5 at most. I just personally feel that Hoyer is just gunshy now and don't want to be in position to be stuck with a long term deal with a guy after age 35. I could be wrong as to why but until he actually signs players to a long term deal past age 35, theres a reason why he doesn't and that just my thoughts on why.
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Never said his contract wasn't fine, or he wasn't playing good, was just going down memory lane in response to the poster about when the Tribune sold the Cubs. In my response to Rob, I answered your previous question
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I was beyond ecstatic when they signed Soriano... maybe im wrong but weren't they(Theo/Jed) trying to move him but having a hard time because of his age/money/years left on his deal ? Then they were able to trade him back to the Yankees but had to eat money to just recieve some low level pitcher in return. To answer RCAL question through your post, I just think having to go through that process with Soriano and Heyward deal, might have some to do with Hoyer hesitation to offer up the long term (7+ yrs) deals to guys around 30.
