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No surprise for the Fiesta Bowl with Boise state vs Oklahoma

Selection show on now.

I wouldn't call it a non-controversy.

Yup. Just as I thought. And I posted this right when NY tied the game.

i'm sure everyone on this board was on the edge of their seats awaiting the final from that game :lol: That wouldn't surprise me in the least. :D

Worthless Cowboys defense. Dallas is gonna win this game by 3 points and I'm going to lose my bet.

And the Texas all but wrap up a victory over the Raiders. It's 23-14 Houston with 2:19 left. And the Raiders have no timeouts.

Come on Dallas. Get the TD. And Barber does it. 20-13 Dallas.

not if you have a great defense. Penn State has one of the 10 best defenses in the country. But they're 55th in offense and 72nd in turnover margin, and all of their good offensive performances came against bad teams. typically a top 10 defense in the country is enough to get you ranked no matter how bad your offense is. that's a little difficult when you play four teams that are better than you overall and you don't pull any of them out. typically a team with a top ten D gets into the top 25. Auburn's offense has proven to be only marginally better, their defense only marginally better. yet they find themselves sitting at what, #10? after getting smoked by a generall uninspiring Georgia team two weeks ago? c'mon man. the difference between those two teams are slight. certainly the difference is not one at #10 and one not rated whatsoever. TCU is 4th in total defense and they just got ranked this week. Miami is 5th in total defense and they aren't ranked. Wyoming is 8th in total defense and they aren't ranked. Georgia is 9th in total defense and they aren't ranked. Western Michigan is 11th. Clemson is 12th. Florida St is 15th. All of those teams are ahead of Penn State (16th) in total defense. Penn State played a harder schedule and better offenses than nearly all of those teams. Florida State, Miami and Georgia have defenses in the same league as Penn State, but the rest don't. My point was that a good defense isn't everything and doesn't make you a good team and doesn't mean you should automatically be ranked.

not if you have a great defense. Penn State has one of the 10 best defenses in the country. But they're 55th in offense and 72nd in turnover margin, and all of their good offensive performances came against bad teams. typically a top 10 defense in the country is enough to get you ranked no matter how bad your offense is. that's a little difficult when you play four teams that are better than you overall and you don't pull any of them out. typically a team with a top ten D gets into the top 25. Auburn's offense has proven to be only marginally better, their defense only marginally better. yet they find themselves sitting at what, #10? after getting smoked by a generall uninspiring Georgia team two weeks ago? c'mon man. the difference between those two teams are slight. certainly the difference is not one at #10 and one not rated whatsoever. TCU is 4th in total defense and they just got ranked this week. Miami is 5th in total defense and they aren't ranked. Wyoming is 8th in total defense and they aren't ranked. Georgia is 9th in total defense and they aren't ranked. Western Michigan is 11th. Clemson is 12th. Florida St is 15th. All of those teams are ahead of Penn State (16th) in total defense.

We need an Eli Manning interception.

didnt michigan put up like 14 points against 3-9 BSU? They had a downstretch earlier. Michigan lead BSU 31-12 late in the third and let them back into the game. I posit that Tennessee is severely overrated, Penn State severely underrated. and not that Wisconsin played anybody, but I'm not exactly impressed with the resume of LSU or Auburn either. the resumes are pretty much equal, until you consider how UM won their games and how Florida won their games. Florida always scrambling, UM always rolling. Why is Penn State underrated? Because all four of their losses came to good teams? That doesn't change the fact that they didn't beat anybody. If anything, I would call Penn State overrated.

How far would you be willing to go with that logic? If Arkansas beat Florida yesterday then what? Does Louisville go to the title game then? West Virginia? Boise? Arkansas? I was thinking under the assumption that only USC, UF, and UM had shots at the title game. USC went down so scratch them off. If UF went down also then UM would get the title berth. Personally I think Boise and Louisville should get serious consideration but realistically I know they won't because of how they and their conferences are perceived in the media.

If he does it against a good team the Bears defense might not be able to save the team.

It's not dribble. I'm guessing you might feel differently if you weren't a Michigan fan. I absolutely hate Michigan but thing they should go the National Championship. call me weird, I just think the two best teams should play for the National Championship and the decision shouldn't come down to a media created desire to not have a repeat game in the NC. repeats have happened several times over the past few years and it was never an issue before. A lot of people - myself included - don't want a rematch either. Michigan had their chance to beat Ohio State in the last game they played. They lost. I'd like to see Florida, a one-loss team from what's probably the best conference in college football, get their shot at Ohio State. That's a good point. I never thought about it that way. It would be one thing if Michigan lost to Ohio State early in the year. I don't think it will be a good game but UF-OSU should be the title game even though I think Michigan is better than UF.

Nice catch by Shockey.

WVU front seven: DE: 6-3, 250 DE: 6-4, 290 NT: 6-4, 295 LB: 6-1, 245 LB: 6-1, 215 LB: 6-2, 225 LB: 6-2, 230 Wisconsin front seven: DE: 6-2, 260 DE: 6-6, 234 DT: 6-4, 282 DT: 6-5, 311 LB: 6-2, 214 LB: 6-2, 220 LB: 6-2, 232 Wow, those look pretty similar don't they. Are you going to call Wisconsin's front seven "skinny assed" now too? difference is that Wisconsin's O-line is all over 310 lbs, while WVU has only 1 guy over 290. And Wisky's line isn't just big, it's really good. I agree, they'd probably manhandle WV. I wasn't debating whether Wisconsin's O-line would dominate WVU's D-line because I know - from looking it up - that Wisconsin's O-line is big. I was refuting the notion that WVU's front seven was "skinny assed" which they clearly aren't.

If used correctly steroids can help out a player a lot though. They can, but 'roids don't help players connect with the ball and guess pitches. For steroids to be effective you still need contact. They also don't help pitchers throw strikes -- they still have to be able to hit their spots (for the most part). If we're going to ban those who did (or are even accused of doing) steroids, then we definitely need to kick out everyone who stole signs (an action which helped a player know what a pitch was, enabling them to make better contact) as well as every pitcher who used pinetar, spit etc. (actions which unnaturally made it harder to a hitter to make contact). I'm fine if we're going to do that, but if we're going to talk about taking action, lets be consistent. They actually can help you guess pitches, indirectly. Steroids make you stronger which will increase your bat speed. A faster bat means you can wait to swing that extra split second - which is everything in hitting. That extra split second could be the difference between recognizing a curveball and not recognizing it. So if somebody is just a bit slow, steroids can help them a lot. Obviously steroids aren't going to make your eyesight better and, don't get me wrong, professional baseball players are very good, hence the reason they are professional. But in a league full of professionals, little things distinguish you from another player and steroids can do that.

Hooray for local blackouts!! No Raiders for me.

Oh my goodness. A 60 yarder for the victory? Amazing.

But he gets it on another rush anyway.

Bush should have had a touchdown but he bobbled the ball and ran out of bounds.

UC Davis got their first win of the year yesterday over Jackson State who I thought was a decent team. They should savor this victory because they will be few and far between this year. The team is still getting used to the new offense and the shooters aren't making shots yet. Gonna be a long year.

WVU front seven: DE: 6-3, 250 DE: 6-4, 290 NT: 6-4, 295 LB: 6-1, 245 LB: 6-1, 215 LB: 6-2, 225 LB: 6-2, 230 Wisconsin front seven: DE: 6-2, 260 DE: 6-6, 234 DT: 6-4, 282 DT: 6-5, 311 LB: 6-2, 214 LB: 6-2, 220 LB: 6-2, 232 Wow, those look pretty similar don't they. Are you going to call Wisconsin's front seven "skinny assed" now too?

Florida will make the National Championship game but Michigan deserves to. There are three types of voters out there: 1. Those who actually think Florida is better and will vote them #2. 2. Those who don't want a rematch and will vote Florida #2 because of it even if they think Michigan is better. 3. Those who don't care about a rematch and will vote Michigan because they think Michigan is the better team.