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Quick explainer for someone who has no idea what this means rules wise? Is there a salary cap type thing for how you put your roster together?

Is that really a hot take? I mean, you've got giant dudes running into each other all the time. Unless you make it flag football, it's going to be a very violent sport and you're going to have terrible injuries and a good amount of concussions.

Well, ok, yes, other stuff too but if you believe the bagmen stories that stuff happens everywhere down there and yet they do it way better than the others (except Texas A&M this year apparently) At Alabama they attract talent because they produce NFL players. It’s like a kind of momentum. Saban knows how to prepare these kids to be ready. He’s created a culture. It helps that he also has the highest paid assistants and great college town, but it’s about his process and what he does that sets him apart. I think it’s him, then every other program bunched together, more or less. Yeah, the short term money and the winning obviously matters. But the long term money matters too. If you show well at Bama, even if it’s just for a year, you’re going to be a high pick and they money you make there is more than whatever bag you get handed to go to Bama.

Am I the only one who is getting no videos as I'm re-reading? Are you on your phone? I've found that YouTube links haven't been loading on my phone recently Yeah, I had a couple that said the video was gone or something along those lines. But almost all of them were just fine.

I think you’ve got some big spurs-colored glasses with the framing of the play here, man. Don’t what else to say but I disagree on every word. Doherty's head is a ball diameter away from the ball here. That's about as bang bang as you can get. 1) keepers are uniquely exposed when coming out for a ball, like a wide receiver reaching for a pass over the middle 2) keepers are significantly more valuable to take out of a play than anyone else on the field, there’s a reason that some corner kick routines try to box them out, to allow some contact is to invite everyone to try to take out the keeper legally because there’s huge rewards even if you don’t win the ball 3) because of 1 and 2, adding any leeway increases injury risk to keepers significantly, because they’re vulnerable and valuable you’ve now made it the logical play to try to physically box them out of every play, hoping that a small percentage get the judgment call to go your way. That means keepers are taking bumps left and right on balls in the box, and all because a keeper fumbled a ball while being hip checked on a hopeful cross? All rules are arbitrary but these ones are fine. No, it's not just all because of this one play. I've held these beliefs long before this. Though in the case of this specific play, we're rewarding stupidity. He should have just punched the ball away and had he done so, there's no issue at all. As I said before, I've seen a number of instances where a goalie comes out after a ball that's going to land in the middle of a group of people, the goalie creates the contact, goes down and gets a free kick out of it. The current system rewards goalies making bad decisions on coming out on the ball because they know they'll get the benefit of the doubt 10 times out of 10. This play for example happens in part because of overprotection of goalkeepers. De Gea doesn't even bother trying to get up because he thinks the opponent got his ankle and he's been taught to just stay on the ground. And it cost his team a goal because it was his teammate got him. The referee doesn't even see what happens. He just sees the goalie on the ground, waives off the goal and gives the free kick to ManU. Thankfully VAR got the call right. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Nothing wrong with that.

I'm aware that under the current rules it's a foul. I think the current rules should be changed because they favor the goalkeeper way too much.

Doherty isn’t late. He arrives literally a split second after the ball does. If that was at midfield it’s a shoulder to shoulder play. Forster came barreling in also and collided with Doherty just as much as Doherty collided with him. I think you’re way overestimating what would happen if a little contact was allowed. We expect referees to legislate contact all over the field. Why not with goalies also? Slide tackling is allowed even though occasionally there are terrible tackles that are red cards. And even though it’s allowed, we don’t see star players get taken out left and right with ankle breaking slide tackles. We can have some nuance here. It’s possible to have a middle ground where you can make contact with a goalie without headhunting them every time.

Again, so they're just not allowed to touch the goalie at all? If that's another field player who is going for the ball, it's not a foul. Those types of plays happen all the time over the course of a game. Why treat the goalie different. He's already go the advantage of being able to use his hands. Forster easily could have just punched the ball clear. Would have been the smart play since when he comes for the ball, there's two of his teammates there and a Spurs player plus Doherty came in. If he punches it, no issue. Instead he tries to catch it. And the ball is already going through his arms when Doherty made contact so Forster screwed up before Doherty touches him. I'm not sure why you're bringing up undercutting since Doherty didn't do that. I agree, undercutting is horrible. It should be a foul everywhere on the field. But that's not what happened here. I used this specific play because it happened yesterday but I have an issue overall with how goalies are treated. Why do goalies get/need so much protection? Most of them are already the tallest person on the field and they have the advantage of being able to use their hands. I'm not saying it should be open season on them. But if they can't handle a little contact when coming for a ball, maybe don't come out for the ball? They don't have the right to just come out and catch every ball without the other team going for it. Punch it away if you're not sure. If the ball was already in Forster's hands when Doherty makes contact and that caused the ball to come out, I'd have no issue with it. Or this play from a couple weeks ago where Schmeichel barely got his hand on the ball before the player kicks it. It was a bang-bang play but that's 100% a safety issue. We don't need players trying to kick the ball out of a goalie's hands. [tweet] [/tweet]

How have we gotten to a place where goalkeepers basically can't be touched in any way or it's a foul? Like a goalie can go barreling off his line towards a ball in the air, crash into an opponent and it's a virtual lock to be a foul on the opponent. Why? It's a contact sport. I don't understand why the above is a foul on Doherty but Moura just goes over the top of a defender against Palace on Sunday with more contact and they let it stand. I'm not arguing Moura's should have been waived off at all. I just don't understand why Doherty was whistled for a foul. I haven't even considered what Ian Wright said in the above clip either. A goalie is trained to high point the ball and had Forster done that, he would have caught it no problem. But he gets rewarded for letting the ball drop to his chest. I guess what I'm saying is some contact on a goalie should be allowed. Not necessarily knocking the ball out of their hands. But you should be able to challenge for a ball without having to worry that the slightest bit of contact will result in a foul.

I'm going to need someone to explain Kingsbury's thinking at the end of the game today. Cards have a 3rd and goal from the 10 with 42 seconds left down 9. Kingsbury chooses to kick a FG. Why? It's not like 3rd and 10 is some impossible situation. What's the point, to save like 6 seconds? Just take a shot at the end zone and if you don't get it, you kick the FG anyway.

This thread has been a welcome re-read this offseason. 10/10 would recommend. Or should I say 108/108.

Stop acting like they would have won the game if they had just kicked the extra point. I'm not. I'm saying that playing a 10 minute OT was less risky than pinning everything on one play. They still could've lost and it would've been moot This isn’t Zach Wilson on the other sideline. It’s Aaron Rodgers. You’re more likely to win going for 2 there than just continuing to give Rodgers chances and hoping you win the coin toss in OT.

Stop acting like they would have won the game if they had just kicked the extra point.

Are you saying they should not have gone for it because they could have tied? No, I'm saying that risking winning or losing on one play (rather than playing it out in OT) seemed like a bad gamble And if you just kick the extra point, you’re giving Rodgers a free shot at a game winning drive with 40 seconds and a timeout. And if you stop them then, you either -lose the toss and have to stop Rodgers -win the toss and need a touchdown again or kick a FG/don’t score and then have to stop Rodgers The more chances you give Aaron Rodgers to beat you, the less likely you are to win. Harbaugh chose to go for 2 which if he gets, forces Rodgers to rush the ball down the field. Sure, you still might lose even if you convert, but you’re more likely to win that way.

There are rumors flying that he's taking his bag to get a few other top guys, too, so this should be interesting. Yeah, this was always the thought with JSU hiring him. I don't know if the end game is Deion getting a Power 5 job or if it's the SWAC to become a power conference. I'm really hoping it's the latter because it will really shake horsefeathers up if black players in the South have a legit chance for exposure at HBCUs. One of two things will happen. Either Jackson State continues to be good and Deion jumps to another school or this season was more of a one off, Jackson State falls off and then none of these big recruits will go there again. Plus with the transfer portal rules changing, these guys know they can just follow him to whatever other school Deion goes to.

Lol. Who could have known that was a terrible hire besides basically everyone.

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And predictably, Chelsea draws the easiest (by far) opponent they possibly could have. Hopefully Atletico Madrid figures their stuff out by February and knocks ManU out.

This has to be up there for dumbest red cards ever. Even if you're getting in front of the kick to stop a counter attack, it would be a dumb move considering you're on a yellow. But your team is back already. What advantage are you possibly trying to gain by doing this? There's literally no point at all.

LOL Chelsea. They give up a 94th minute goal to tie Zenit and finish second in the group. EDIT: They’ll draw one of Ajax, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich or whoever wins Group G. I’m hoping they draw Bayern but I’m sure they’ll get the Group G winner.

Group G in the UCL: Lille 8 Salzburg 7 Sevilla 6 Wolfsburg 5 Lille at Wolfsburg, Sevilla at Salzburg The only thing that is settled is that Lille will be playing in Europe in 2022, though that could be the Europa League. Lille can't finish 4th. Sevilla and Salzburg could finish in any of the 4 spots. Wolfsburg, due to the tiebreakers and which games are remaining, will either play in the UCL knockout rounds or be out of Europe altogether. They can't finish 3rd. They would win a three way H2H for 1st with a win and a Salzburg draw. They have the H2H tiebreaker with Lille for 2nd place if they win and the other game doesn't end in a tie. And if they draw and Salzburg wins, Sevilla has the tiebreaker for 3rd.

I think Michigan and whoever the 4 seed is gets absolutely throttled in the playoffs vs Georgia and Bama. The BIG sucks this year and Iowa really sucks. We’re getting a Bama-Georgia championship. I’d be pretty shocked if Bama and Georgia aren’t 2 point favorites in their first round games. Michigan's strength is running the ball. They won't be able to do that against Georgia. Georgia 30+ to 6. Georgia has better coaches and better players. Georgia's strength on defense will suffocate Michigan. It's not like Georgia's offense is all that great and Michigan's got a pretty solid defense. Held Ohio State to their second lowest point total of the season.

2 weeks ago I proposed the exact scenario that’s occurring. Now Georgia has to beat Bama, Houston over Cincinnati and one other result that I dont want to happen Michigan can win and we’d still have chaos in that scenario. Does Baylor actually get in? It’s probably them or Ohio St right? Can’t imagine the committee would want to run Bama-Georgia back again in a 1-4 matchup. Not like Bama’s resume is amazing.