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You like Miller Park. That's fine, but the fact that you think it's a "great new ballpark" is all that really needs to be said to discredit your views on this matter. I actually never said that. But hey----why let what I really said stop you from twisting my words?

Why Wrigley will be standing forever is in bold print. Ok. Why the Cubs will never win a World Series is in bold print. I sense a circular arguement coming.... Seriously, though, Wrigley isn't the problem. Look at 2003. Assuming they won Game 6 or 7, are you saying it would have been impossible for them to beat the Yankees simply because of Wrigley? I find it quite difficult to assume we won games that the standings say we didn't. Don't you? Seriously though. If we couldn't get to the World Series at Wrigley in 2003 with all the advantages we had going for us, it's not going to happen. Change the ballpark. Become an actual baseball team with an active fans:winning percentage ratio that makes logical sense. That's the way to a World Series. It's one thing to sit at Clark and Addison, step into the booth with Len with your cool sunglasses on, and proclaim how hard you are trying to win all the while knowing the fans will be there no matter what. It's an entriely different story to need to win or the ballpark is empty. I want a Championship before I die, man. I've seen Wrigley. Now I want the ring (figuratively speaking, of course). Wrigley is a ball and chain around every Cub fan's ankle at this point, whether they realize it or not. No incentive to win equals, not suprisingly, no winning. Add to that the fact that Wrigley *is* old and somewhat decrepit at this point, and newer ballparks *do* provide more & better amenities, and there you have it. Must get new ballpark.

Doesn't seem to hurt ticket sales, as most of you are so fond of saying. It's not going to stop anyone from handing more cash to our Cubs to watch them lose yet again, so I find the complaints about it somewhat disingenuous. Naming rights are a reality in sports. It's not going to stop until it impacts ticket sales. Since it isn't, it will not stop. Simple logic.

Really? Cub supporters are well-traveled fans, and discounting that, there are three modern stadiums within the Chicago city limits. Wrigley thrives because it's great ... not because its patrons are deprived folks who've never seen a game anywhere else and don't know any better. You will all see, when Wrigley finally rots away as it eventually will, most Cub fans will be saying "I loved Wrigley and all, but it *is* nice to finally have a great new ballpark." This is how I feel right now---except the new ballpark hasn't been built yet. I'm about 15 years ahead of the curve.

The attendance figures tell a different story. Apparently, most folks don't go to the ballpark to sniff the pavement, ogle vendors and hang out amongst the chamberpots. More likely, most Cub fans just have no clue what they're missing with a modern ballpark.

Good to see he's working at it.

Mr. Mazeroski tops the all-time list, eh? Bet they failed to mention that during his Hall of Fame induction :roll:

:( He was off the market :lol:

Why Wrigley will be standing forever is in bold print. Ok. Why the Cubs will never win a World Series is in bold print.

Maybe it's because I've already been to Wrigley like 200 times in my life, but uh..... ***SACRILEGE ALERT*** Miller Park is just a more fun place to watch a ballgame than Wrigley now. No horrible smells from someone's 50-year old bodily fluids, no bathrooms that you would normally expect to find in Texas Chainsaw Massacre, seats that you can make it through a game in without needing back surgery, vendors who look like they actually shower every once in awhile (sorry guys----but a few of you need to reintroduce yourselves to Mr. Daily Hygiene), and staff who seem genuinely glad to have you there, even if you are a Cub fan. It's not that I have sworn off Wrigley. Not at all. I have tix to the May 12th game, and I love Chicago to death. I usually try to make it once or even twice a year back to Chicago. But this ballclub needs a suitable MODERN ballpark in the absolute worst way. What's that you say? They wouldn't be able to fill a new ballpark unless the team won? GOOD! Welcome to major league baseball :!:

Why not just consider all numbers from all sources? Why exclude anything? It all amounts to an educated guess at the end of the day. I see no reason to favor anything or disfavor anything.

Yes, but you'll excuse me if I wait until Woody has a few successful regular season starts before declaring Will's original source was wrong. Sorry, but there have been way too many "setbacks" to believe anything other than on-the-field performance.

You mean like Tank Johnson? ...usually 8)

Hmmm. I'm definitely still thinking Pope works as a late 1st rounder, although I've heard character questions arise and Angelo usually steers clear of those. Very few linebackers would have a chance at covering a 6'7" TE who runs a 4.6

How's the weather down there? I'm really starting to feel the winter blues (usually happens this time of year) :(

I need to get out of this winter nightmare. Spring can't come soon enough.

Sounds good. Now go out and prove it young man.

It's a Dusty team. At least 2 or 3 players must sit the bench in favor of lesser players.

Or maybe they have to go through twice the pain. Or maybe they just don't feel anything

Yeah, I wasn't saying you can't watch other teams or know what's going with them, read about them, etc. but I agree with you that it is one or the other. I think being an active fan of both would be like having two girlfriends. For me, it's the Cubs all the way. And when we're playing the Sox, I root against the Sox HARD. However, I can't say I'm carrying around abject hatred for the Sox. When they won it all last year, I wasn't upset with the Sox at all. Good for them. Rather, I was stark raving MAD at the Cubs for being the losingest ballclub ever and not doing enough to change that. I turn my anger and frustration on MY team. I'm very critical of myself in every day life because I believe it drives me to be better. And I carry that over into my sports watching, big time.

I read that as, "I don't pay attention to stats." Oh, hehe. I guess I'm not giving Corey much benefit of the doubt these days :oops: Still though. They say they were working with him to improve plate discipline, right? For CPatt to now say he doesn't even pay attention to walks kind of implies......well you know.

Come on, quit acting like you don't enjoy the trainwrecks. All of you. 8)

I mean that quote pretty much settles it, right? Corey refused to be coached, refused to listen. "I don't even pay attention to that stuff." What more proof does one need? :?:

I guess because he won't bow down to Skiles' powertrip? I hate to go there, but what other explanation works? Gordon's the guy who is capable of bringing us back and winning games late.