Soul

That doesn't sound like it follows logically. A company under a ton of pressure---as you claim ESPN might be---would be ripe to skip steps in the process, not the other way around. At any rate this is all very speculative. Your are completely incorrect. The legal standard that all employers subject to Title VII are required to follow demands a thorough and prompt investigation and documentation thereof. If they know what they are doing - and I have no reason to believethey do not - they took each of these steps and determined that they had evidence of inappropriate behavior justifying a termination. It is also very likely that Reynolds had an employment contract that defined conditions under which he could be terminated (known as "cause"). If so, ESPN had to be even more careful, b/c Reynolds was not simply "at-will" (meaning he could be terminated for any reason or no reason at all, so long as the discharge is not based on his membership in a protected class; i.e., illegal discrimination). EDIT: But feel free to do your own research. Start with the Meritor Savings Bank v. Vinson, a 1986 Supreme Court case that establishes that sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination, and go on from there. If everyone followed procedure and process, you'd be out of a job Mr. Lawyer.

I won't join the U2 trashers. They've had some good stuff, and some stuff of substance over the years. Zep is just too much-----maybe too much for anyone else in the tourney. I'll vote for Zep over the Beatles if it comes to that.

I loved GNR, but come lets face it they had one really incredible album, and the rest was a slow burn into the abyss.... Pink Floyd did it for too long to be overcome by a short-lived group.

Well Dusty doesn't have his guys so I wish everyone would quit being so negative.

That doesn't sound like it follows logically. A company under a ton of pressure---as you claim ESPN might be---would be ripe to skip steps in the process, not the other way around. At any rate this is all very speculative.

Good. So Aramis will be retiring as a Cub. Some would say that he's already opting for early retirement, at least on the basepaths. "They" said there were motivational issues with him on the Pirates. When he came to the Cubs, there were established Dominican players here and the team was in the playoffs. Those respected Dominican players are no longer on the Cubs. The team isn't contending. DLee was the recognized team leader, at least media-wise, and he was out-of-service early on. Ramirez may not have been ready for the spotlight. He doesn't give very good interviews and he really really needs to stick with a station-to-station basepath plan, but he can still hit the ball really hard and really far. He shouldn't be the main plan, but he can fit into the overall plan quite nicely still. Trade him if you get good value back, but don't trade him because of lack of heart or hustle. Because sometimes the environment has a huge effect on that, and that seems to be the case with Aramis (like it or not). JMO, and I understand those who can't stand it when he admires his blasts. Sadly, there are only a handful of players who don't do that anymore (and Pujols is not among that handful). I'm not quite ready to exchange Aramis for some guy who won't have any blasts to stand around and admire for too long, and I don't trust Hendry to find someone or someones better than Aramis. Excellently said. This is total speculation, but I feel it necessary to point out that when ARam did hustle more on the basepaths he wound up on the DL. He's healthy and has been the whole year, so while I'm not sure if there's a direct correlation, I'm also not sure I would want to risk it...

Exactly. What happened to Jewel was a travesty. Are we so mindless that we should repeat these same mistakes over & over again? Ridiculous... Big difference discussing government and businesses. Corporations can't afford to be so careless. Still, the rare Jewel case doesn't compare to the not very rare legit sexual harrassment case that goes nowhere. I don't think it's as rare as you do. Just look at the recent history among celebrity cases. There have been at least 3 I can think of in the past year alone. Extrapolate to the general public and you've got more than just a odd case here & there. The Jewel case involved private business----several newspapers, who took on faith that the charges against him were accurate without really checking. I recognize there are too many sexual harrassment cases that go unpunished. I'm just saying there are steps to the process. Cheating due process is the exact thing that should be avoided. I'm not willing to simply "trust" that ESPN has done due diligence on their own. That's a dangerous path to go down, and is the exact reason why we have a legal process in the first place.

You have no idea the lenghts to which big business goes to before making a move like this. I do. I've seen it. It is highly unlikely that this is an unjustifiable termination. It's not worth it to them to risk the trouble. You have to go above and beyond to make a move like that. And neither do you. The individual cases you have witnessed can not be blanket-applied to every situation. You know that.

Exactly. What happened to Jewel was a travesty. Are we so mindless that we should repeat these same mistakes over & over again? Ridiculous...

I never cared for HR, but you're right. How do you know he's right? That's absurd. Odds are pretty heavy that they have more than enough reason to fire him. Companies don't just fire people without discussions going on. I've heard people who have had to deal with the repeated warnings, not to mention the attempted lawsuits that follow. You have absolutely no reason to believe ESPN just blindsided him with this with no support. Odds are pretty heavy?? LOL. You've got to be kidding. Yes, let's destroy a human being because we all trust the mighty corporation, right? ESPN surely has all the evidence that would be required for a conviction----let's just take it on faith and destroy Reynolds. Give me a break goony.

I guess innocent until proven guilty really has gone the way of the dinosaur in this country. Not sure about the rest of you, but I'm uncomfortable with this. When did we decide as a nation that it's O.K. to begin punishing people before they have even had a chance to confront the charges against them? This is sad. ESPN ought to be ashamed of themselves. Yet another reason I'm glad I don't watch that network much any more. I'll bet dollars to navy beans this is nothing----just like the supposed Duke "rapes" and the Kobe Bryant "rape."

The last 15 years has been the Sammy Sosa era? I keep forgetting that. Quick, who is the best running back of the Sammy Sosa era? Roughly 1992-2003. I'd say Emmitt Smith. This is a commonly used expression. I use it all the time.

A few Cubs pitchers would like an answer to this question as well.

well said. and more then that... if he brings the cubs a ring... i could care less Wait a minute. You two couldn't care less who owns the team, as long as it isn't the Trib? Isn't that what got us the Trib in the first place? Let's be a little more selective about our next owner. Please?

STOP FEEDING THEM BLOOD THINNERS, IT'S NOT WORKING AND THEY'RE TOO YOUNG TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HEART PROBLEMS. Thank you. 8-[

Well he's got money and desire, but probably knows little about owning a sports franchise. Does he really have passion for the game, or for sports in general? I don't know.

not sure what world you are living in Soul. when I first began work at my former employer, we did all these team exercises about how we need to trust one another and how we should feel free to call each other out when we feel someone is not living up to their responsabilities and not being accountable for mistakes. this worked fine for about 8 months, when I didn't know enough about my job or organization to ever say anything. then I began to understand what the priorities were and how resources were best used and what the objectives of the office should be and what the best way to achieve said objectives are. I did what I was told to do when I began, called people out on avoiding responsabilities and accountability for about 8 months. they fired me last Friday. no matter how much people say they respect "telling it how it is," coworkers and bosses don't like being told they are screwing up. it does nothing but lead to extreme volitility in all but the most rare of circumstances. I don't think calling people out is what Aram did here, but I also don't think calling people out is generally a productive thing to do. I only meant that what ARam did wasn't as bad as what people are saying. He only stated the obvious, and people on the team who aren't producing will understand what he's saying. Hell---ARam himself wasn't producing earlier. LOL-----yeah, it's probably not a good idea to go around saying "Smith's sucking right now, we need to talk to that dude..........Wow Jackson really blew that one!!"

Hold out just a little longer. ....just a little bit longer.......... July 27th gentlemen. Baseball season ends July 27th.

I consider myself lucky because I got to see the Cubs during the last Brewer series, which was like the only time this season they've looked like an actual ballclub. Hope you had fun anyhow.

This has become comical. What are these guys eating for breakfast? Cyanide? :lol:

He got the outs. Hopefully some less noisy outs coming next inning 8)

Whoa. This doesn't look real good.

Yeah, so what? That's his opinion. Williamson was bad. He fetched little because he was worth little. 28.1 IP 27 H 32 K. Williamson struggled because he walked too many guys, but a smart organization will find a spot for a guy who gives up less than a hit an inning and strikes out more than a guy per inning. Those guys don't grow on trees, and can definitely a help a team. Williamson was a good pickup by Hendry for little cost. The ability to strike out anyone that steps in the box against you is a valuable asset, especially in a relief role. Like you said too many walks. He's had plenty of time to get his control back. It hasn't happened because it isn't going to happen. His WHIP wasn't all that great, he's in his 30's, and his arm is double-post-op. What were you expecting to get for him, out of curiosity? We picked him up for a bag of beans because nobody wanted him..... As for the strikeouts, I watch the guy pitch. He gets K's because he goes deep into counts on every hitter. I don't view that as necessarily an indicator of dominance. Just an indicator that he has little control, and gets into trouble. I watched Scotty struggle & struggle. That's what I saw. And I'm pretty sure that's what other teams around the league saw as well. Maybe I'm wrong. It's all about opinions.

Oh yeah babuh! Everyone ready to lose again!?! YaaaaHOOOO! :?

bad team, bad season yes... but sorry.. the whole team doesnt need to be ripped on. Hank White did pretty well for those 13 games Barrett was out during the Lee injury... Jones and Walker also for the most part did their part.... Everyone else should be ripped on tho. If you call those comments "ripping" on people, then you would have everyone on the team [expletive]-foot around every issue. I just don't agree with that. The comments were honest but light. Nobody was called out. Nobody was ripped-on, IMO.