dude, I tangle with many of the people you are tangling with right now, but look at the roster going into 2004 and look at the roster going into 2007. there's many reasons for negativity there, and if Aram opts out, that will leave exactly three players that are capable of being in the top half of the league at their position, barring offseason acquisitions. sure, defense up the middle is important, but the game is really about scoring runs and pitching. and what really compounds it is that the past two off seasons were relative disasters, so it's hard to see any acquisitions that will allow us to score any runs. the only option will be to bench the two best positional prospects we've had in two decades. it's just an absolute nightmare right now. I hear you and agree. But I don't see what else Mad Dog brings in a deadline trade. You have to give something to get something. 2 months of 4.69 ERA doesn't bring much. If this team is to turn it around, it was never going to be on the back of a miracle Maddux trade. So why make a deal that makes you worse offensively both now and in the future? You mean because Maddux hits better than Izturis? 8)