Could be overuse but interesting that it started falling apart when sticky tack was banned. Perhaps the pitching lab just just a lab where they developed sticky substances. Sucks if true because it was the most innovative thing they seemed to be doing while the farm system languished and the star hitters all regressed into a bottom tier offense. Yes yes World Series thank you and all that but what is this org doing well right now? I know there is promise in the minors but it’s not exactly a top 15 system at this point is it? Sorry I’m being overly negative and maybe unfair I just see nothing but negatives within the cubs right now I think we're mostly in the clear on the sticky stuff front. Nance has seen his spin rates absolutely crater, and Keegan Thompson's also taken a real hit, but everyone else is down but really not any more than the league as a whole. I am a bit nervous to see Steele back up here, because he was a spin rate monster as well, so I hope he doesn't get Nance'd. I’m confused on how what you said means the Cubs are in the clear? Nance and Thompson were 2 of the reasons the Cubs bullpen was as great as it was for 6 weeks so having their spin rates plummet means the bullpen was propped up by sticky tack pitchers. And then you say the rest of the pen is down but not more than the rest of the league. Meaning it is down since the ban started meaning sticky substances were likely contributing to their success to some degree. Unless I’m reading your comment wrong. So it goes back to my original comment. The Cubs have had the ability to cobble solid bullpens together from the scrap heap the past 3 or so years. It was one of the few things we could point at and say the Cubs were doing better than the others teams in baseball. It gave me some confidence that the FO was competent. If all of this was driven by being ahead of the curve on using sticky substances than I’m not sure how confident I am in the organization to do anything well. Now a caveat - even if the Cubs were heavy sticky tack users, that doesn’t mean it’s the sole reason why they’ve had success, and also the Cubs had no reason to believe that sticky substances would be banned so they get credit for finding a competitive advantage and embracing it. It was just the wrong one it looks like.