UMFan83

Oh boy... what if he said "people trying to make a big deal out of nothing"? Left "black" out of it? Still bad, not as bad though I'm no mod so continue the convo unmoderated. But I am going to drop it because theres a Cubs game going on and racism is a volatile topic that I don't feel like keeping going in a game thread

The sad thing is, if Jacque Jones hit 60 HRs and was given nightly curtain calls he would still never like the Cubs. For some reason, the Cubs fans just hated him like no other Cubs. Think about all of our bad FAs signings, none were ever hated as much as Jacque. The man hit a career high in HRs and was still hated by the Cubs. Not fair, and I feel really bad for the guy because you have to believe that he thinks racism is the reason. We hated Latroy Hawkins more. A lot more. Todd Hundley too. Based on performance... Cubs fans were ecstatic about the signing. Todd Hundley too. Cubs fans were ready to boo jacque heartily the moment he first stepped into the box at Wrigley. I dont believe that at all. Jones started out horrible, and the team was horrible, and it free falled from there. I don't see it that way. The Jacque Jones signing was vilified on boards like this. Cubs fans came out with pitchforks waiting to use them on Jacque it seems. They were booing him crazy on the first Saturday of the season because he started out 0-10 or something like that. These are his OPS by month last year: .748,.853,.896,.679,.881,.887. Those numbers, save 1-2 months are pretty consistent. Other than maybe his rough first week as a Cub and July when the whole team was horrible, there were no stretches where the fans needed to call him out and boo him. He finishes the season with 27 HR and a +.800 OPS and gets off to a slow start this season and immediately the booing continues.

I think 2 of his last 3 starts have been solid. The outlier is the game at Coors which he pitched decent for 5 2/3 innings.

The sad thing is, if Jacque Jones hit 60 HRs and was given nightly curtain calls he would still never like the Cubs. For some reason, the Cubs fans just hated him like no other Cubs. Think about all of our bad FAs signings, none were ever hated as much as Jacque. The man hit a career high in HRs and was still hated by the Cubs. Not fair, and I feel really bad for the guy because you have to believe that he thinks racism is the reason. Todd Hundley. Put away the race card. I didn't say it was racism, I said he probably thinks it was. So I guess I'm playing the race card for him. Oh well.

The sad thing is, if Jacque Jones hit 60 HRs and was given nightly curtain calls he would still never like the Cubs. For some reason, the Cubs fans just hated him like no other Cubs. Think about all of our bad FAs signings, none were ever hated as much as Jacque. The man hit a career high in HRs and was still hated by the Cubs. Not fair, and I feel really bad for the guy because you have to believe that he thinks racism is the reason. We hated Latroy Hawkins more. A lot more. Todd Hundley too. Based on performance... Cubs fans were ecstatic about the signing. Todd Hundley too. Cubs fans were ready to boo jacque heartily the moment he first stepped into the box at Wrigley.

The sad thing is, if Jacque Jones hit 60 HRs and was given nightly curtain calls he would still never like the Cubs. For some reason, the Cubs fans just hated him like no other Cubs. Think about all of our bad FAs signings, none were ever hated as much as Jacque. The man hit a career high in HRs and was still hated by the Cubs. Not fair, and I feel really bad for the guy because you have to believe that he thinks racism is the reason.

Like when Ramirez hit that GW HR against the Brewers? I was waiting for that. Name any other times? I can't. You can't think of another time one of our hitters had a big hit? Think harder. There are none. This should have been our lineup today 1. Theriot, 2B 2. Macais, 3B (signed only for big games) 3. Ward, 1B 4. K. Hill, C 5. Fox, RF 6. Murton, LF 7. Pie, CF 8. Cedeno, SS

Like when Ramirez hit that GW HR against the Brewers?

12 outs to score as many runs as we had hits in the first 15 outs of the game.

Unlike the Cubs, the Cardinals have four guys come up each year and look like Hall of Famers. They signed Tony Womack the year after he stunk for us and he even looked like an all star. jeff weaver, bo hart, fernando tatis, etc. John Rodriguez. Ankiel.... Oh yeah I forgot about j-rod. they have so many of them. What happened to John Rodriguez??

I have a feeling this time around the order is going to hurt Rich Hill

At least they are hitting him a little harder?

Tony LaRussa

AIM Chatname again is 'cardssuck' if anyone is interested

Not sure but I just started one called 'cardssuck' if you guys want in

C'mon Kendall, show why you hit over .500 against Looper in your career.

Here goes Rich Hill's start...

A team on average will score more runs with the pitcher batting 8th. The impact is just about 2-3 runs a year. How would you prove that? Anyone ever done it? If that is true why is LaRussa the only one smart enough to figure that out and implement it.

Here comes the 'second leadoff hitter'

Well, that's a little of an exaggeration don't you think. His ERA is 5.01, if you count that as almost 6 :D This is the one Cardinals pitcher who the Cubs cannot seem to figure out, and I'm not sure why. It's not that he's just a bad pitcher, or the Cubs offense, because they hit the other pitchers just fine for the most part. Whoops, for some reason I thought it was higher, my bad!

Braden Looper is a stud. Oh wait his ERA is almost 6? Crap

Lee would have struck out on that

What the hell is wrong with Lee

How many was it that inning? 17, luckily he got Punjols on 1 pitch 2 pitches

Too many fouls = bad.