Grace was 3rd-4th in line until Dawson/Maddux left. Then he was behind Sandberg til he retired. Then he had maybe 2 years of being the most popular Cub before Sosa took over. Mark Grace does not represent the Cubs in any way. Exactly. Grace was only a top Cub because the Cubs sucked. The 90's Cubs were horrible. The fact that Grace sticks out the most from that time doesn't make him worthy of honor. It was a sad miserable time to be a Cubs fan, in part because their best player was nothing special. Yeah the Cubs were bad in the 90's, but Grace did lead the 90's in hits. I don't think he should have his number retired, but I think there is a argument to be made that it should. Also Marmol could have a chance assuming he becomes the fulltime closer within the next year and he stays with the Cubs for all if not most of his career. Marmol could be the closer for the next 10ish years and he could rack up a pretty good amount of saves (overrated stat but valued in mainstream baseball) and post some good WHIP, K, and ERA numbers as well. I agree with what you are saying about Marmol. But my question is, how many numbers aroudn baseball are retired for relief pitchers who spent their entire careers as relief pitchers? Does Lee Smith have his number retired? Hoffman will in San Diego, but other than that, no one is coming to mind right now that spent their entire career in the pen. Mariano Rivera definitely will.