I don't think this sentiment can be emphasized enough for the spazzes still in denial out there thinking that only a relative few players used PED's over the last 40 years. Agree. Tons used something or other. Baseball was slow to pick up the benefits of strength training. Once they did, and saw the physical rewards, the PEDs used in gyms all over the country were there for them to see you could add even more benefit by using those. I was thinking about Ortiz earlier- I wonder if there's anything to the number of south of the border guys using. I.E., I've read that buying stuff like synthetic testosterone is relatively easy in the Dominican. Why, then, wouldn't these guys say they were taking whatever without much thought? Guys like Ortiz (who I assume has lived in the Dominican in the winter) could have bought this stuff just about anywhere, and until 2003, what did it really matter? A) Public perception. B) They could have bought there and brought here, illegally.