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Who freaking cares what Packers fans are thinking? It's a Vikings game in Minnesota, the storybook atmosphere just isn't there.

It's not like that crowd is insanely in love with Favre. they would be in this setting I still wouldn't call it anything like storybook. It's a sub .500 team going nowhere with a hired gun QB who hasn't played well all year and is banged up.

It's not like that crowd is insanely in love with Favre.

Probably because they've feasted on the NFC West.

Wait. You are suggesting that Tyler Colvin should start ~75% of the games in right field with Fukudome in center and Byrd should only face lefties?

This makes no sense to me. If they declare for the draft and hire representation then there's a lockout and new agreement with changes to rookie wages before the draft, aren't they also subject to the new wage scale? It's possible that the new wage scale could go into effect for the 2012 draftees and not 2011. But most likely it's just an agent acting in his own self interest. Same with coaches telling people to stay.

So before people expressed concern about player safety you didn't want to win the game? You are a strange person.

Tennessee is still alive? That's awesome. I'll be rooting for that scenario just for kicks. The mediocrity of the AFC South has been overshadowed by the two western divisions.

What the hell are you talking about?

Who is probably going to be even worse in those conditions. It is probably easier to be a quick and shifty aggressor in those conditions rather than a quick and shifty pursuer. Yeah, but he/they suck. Hopefully.

Who is probably going to be even worse in those conditions. It is probably easier to be a quick and shifty aggressor in those conditions rather than a quick and shifty pursuer.

He's being fired but will coach in the bowl game, apparently. Isn't Wanny doing the same in Pittsburgh?

Unless they make a major leap up in the standings they absolutely should keep building for the future by the time the trading deadline arrives. Two wins are much less meaningful than 40% of a disappointing season. They are only 2 points ahead of 2 teams with 4 games in hand each. The playoffs remain very much in doubt. Yes but based on the fact that we won the Stanley Cup last year with a majority of the "key" players returning, it's more likely we play much better the rest of the year than how we have. Last year from January 9th to March 30th, the Hawks posted a 15-12-4 record, and a goal differential of -7. And yet somehow they put it together and started their playoff run to the Stanley Cup 2 weeks after that stretch ended. This year the Hawks are 18-14-3 and have a goal differential of +8, which is 5th best in the conference (albeit in 3-4 more games). No doubt we've played [expletive], but its a long season. Do I think the Hawks are going to go 37-10-4 the rest of the year, which is what the Hawks did around that mediocre stretch last year? Probably not, but I think they will play better at some point this year and will position themselves to be somewhere in the 4-7 range when the season is over. As we know the playoffs are a semi-crapshoot, so just getting in and being considered dangerous is fine by me. As it stands, the only team that I'd be less than certain we could beat is Detroit. As I've made clear, if they straighten things out and play great between now and the deadline, keep it status quo. But there is no reason why trading some of the key pieces can't be on the table if they continue on this uninspiring path. You can't keep expanding the untradable core. With Toews, Kane, Hossa, Campbell, Keith, Hjarmalsson and Bolland locked up longterm and unlikely to be going anywhere, names like Seabrook and Sharp can and should be up for debate.

That is terrible.

I don't think the Vikings are getting screwed at all. But how in the hell do the weather conditions favor the indoor team vs. an outdoor cold weather team? I'll take Adrian Peterson outdoors and in snowy conditions versus a Tampa 2 defense. The crappy team with a screwed up QB situation benefits from conditions that tend to even up talent and hinder passing anyway.

He's not right. The fact that it can occur on other fields doesn't change the fact that it can occur more easily on concrete. It is ridiculously stupid to try and claim otherwise.

There's no change in the burden on any pitcher. He's going to be counted on to make all his starts and pitch well, exactly like he was before the trade.

With that turf a concussion waiting to happen, I could easily see the Vikings pass rush concussing Cutler and making Todd Collins have to win the game. The O-line really needs to hold up. This is the most overblown whining bullet point from Bears fans from this game. If a guy's head bounces off the ground hard with force he's normally going to get a concussion. See Cutler in NY. Not overblown at all, and you are wrong. Guys can bounce their heads off the ground without getting a concussion quite easily. Not so on concrete.

Unless they make a major leap up in the standings they absolutely should keep building for the future by the time the trading deadline arrives. Two wins are much less meaningful than 40% of a disappointing season. They are only 2 points ahead of 2 teams with 4 games in hand each. The playoffs remain very much in doubt.

True, the Vikings are getting screwed terribly in home advantage and, almost certainly, financially, by the stadium situation, The Vikings aren't being screwed out of a goddmamn thing. It's their crap stadium that failed and their inability to set things straight a week after the fact.

I'm not going go lie, just want to see one of these teams lose.

Gb is an offense that is passing dependent and has qb + WR, bears are all qb.

Went to dinner in NYC on saturday, Joe buck and hot young brunette next table.

It's not even close to the first time that happened, plus the snow helped more than anything.

Consensus is that it's a pretty great stadium. Opposite end of the spectrum from having to play in the dome for the Gophers. great in September and October, maybe. Seems completely inadequate in cold weather That's kind of like saying they botched Madison Square Garden because it's not suited for international soccer competitions. Ecept not at all. It's a football field in Minnesota not designed for weather you can easily get in college football season. And there was talk of the Vikings sharing it at one point. Just makes no sense.