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  1. jersey cubs fan
    Seems like an odd way to value a player. I understand the logic of it, but I would guess it's pretty rare for any player to bring back a pick as high as the one he was taken with. If a player is getting traded, there's usually a good reason why he doesn't get similar value. Cutler, ironically, is a rare exception of a top 15 pick getting a top 15 pick + in return. I'm not sure why you are trying to characterize trades the way you are. Trades in general are rare in the NFL. There's a couple different reasons for them. A) A team doesn't want the guy so they move him to another team, or B) A player outperforms expectations but the team that has him has another guy in place and so they trade him to a team that can use him. This often happens with QBs, like Cassel and Kolb. And on occasion, a team doesn't have interest in signing an extension to a star player and they move him for pretty high value, like Richard Seymour. All of those guys were traded for value at or above where they were taken. If a player is taken in the 1st round, then gets traded 5 years later for a 3rd round pick, his team was trying to get rid of him and he didn't live up to his 1st round status.
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    using the trade value chart, a #31 has the same value as #54 and #70, together (you're obviously going to disagree, but) i think it's pretty reasonable to say that his on-field play with the Bears would basically only have to justify that of a 54th overall pick, which he more than did I think that's a silly way to try and justify it.
  3. jersey cubs fan
    There's pretty wide gap between being a bust and not playing up to the position you were drafted. The Bears didn't get 1st round TE production out of him and they didn't get good value in trade for him in the prime of his career. He wasn't a bust, he was a nice player who did some nice things. He just didn't perform up to what you'd hope for that pick.
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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-biggs-10-thoughts-on-bears-loss-to-broncos-20111212,0,7659009.story?page=4 He better get serious about multiple spots on the roster that he's ignored if that is true.
  5. jersey cubs fan
    I'd argue Olsen didn't outplay or play up to his draft position, but he's been worth more than a damn. i saw it as, he led the team in receiving TDs three straight seasons and then netted a high 3rd rounder via trade hard to complain too much about that from the 31st overall pick Having a guy who was worth the 31st pick get traded for the 70ish pick 5 years later doesn't support that argument. And leading this team in TDs as a receiver says more about the Bears than him.
  6. jersey cubs fan
    So you are sticking with the comment then completely refuting it? Look I know Hester is a great player and this is Forte's breakout year, so while admitting that those two players have been great for us, I'm not going to give Angelo a pass. In doing so, that in no way refutes my thought process that Angelo has been horrible and his drafts in large have been unproductive. With the exception of Briggs and Urlacher, we've drafted 0 blue chip players. I'm not an Angelo fan, but the statements you've made have been ludicrous.
  7. jersey cubs fan
    Well, his drafting has been the main reason why the offensive line has sucked so much and contributed to the abuse Cutler took, although not specifically on that play.
  8. jersey cubs fan
    I'd argue Olsen didn't outplay or play up to his draft position, but he's been worth more than a damn.
  9. jersey cubs fan
    So you are sticking with the comment then completely refuting it?
  10. jersey cubs fan
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  11. jersey cubs fan
    For some reason, despite Seattle still having to play tonight, there is a line for this game and it is 4.5 right now. I can't imagine the Bears giving points right now. They've lost three straight to the worst conference in the league. Seattle does suck, but they've managed road wins in NY and STL. This is probably going to be another really ugly game. The Bears are currently tied with 5 other teams at the 16th pick spot. 2-1 is the best they can do from here, 1-2 might be more realistic, but 0-3 is a definite possibility if they don't do a lot more on offense. Hopefully nobody else that matters suffers an injury that threatens 2012. My guess is the new guy from Seattle will be taking over for Angelo if he leaves, and the Bears will do something incredibly dull and uninteresting in trying to replace Martz.
  12. jersey cubs fan
    your posts deserve to be trolled, they're terrible. saying that the bears haven't drafted a player worth a damn in over 5 years is a lot dumber than someone calling you out on your nonsense. You can list names if you wish to prove my post wrong, or you can just troll my post and look stupid. You also have to option to read between the lines and understand that I completely hate Angelo and his horrible managing of my favorite NFL team. Forte is a nice player, but we've had so many misses in the draft and we have had years to shore up this o-line which still has yet to be done. This season was basically a duplicate of last season. O-line issues, no WRs, less good TE play and a good aging defense. So you are sticking with the 5 years comment?
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  14. jersey cubs fan
    I would rather not save a rival from the most potentially damaging year of the deal.
  15. jersey cubs fan
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-blackhawks-assign-rookie-smith-to-rockford-20111212,0,614405.story
  16. jersey cubs fan
    Being ridiculous has never been a deterent to Cutler haters.
  17. jersey cubs fan
    I don't buy that. The guy wanted 3 years for the stability. He's never been about maxing out.
  18. jersey cubs fan
    Come on now, his worst season in the last three is equivalent to Soto's best year ever. And Prince is younger. Soto made a big splash in year one, and hasn't been back to that level since. Prince was 2 years younger when he made a bigger splash, and he's exceeded that level twice since.
  19. jersey cubs fan
    he'll most likely be worth 25 mil per year for 4 of those years. i'd do both in a heartbeat. He's been worth less than 15 million in half of his seasons, including 2 of the last 4. I'd probably grit my teeth at 6/150 depending on what else happens, but it would not be "good" deal for the Cubs. He was only 24 in the first one of those years. I'd hardly hold it against him.
  20. jersey cubs fan
    I know he's a dickbag and the Chiefs offense has sucked this year, but I'd take Haley as the Bears OC in a heartbeat. If for nothing than to see him and Cutler get into a fistfight about 5 practices in to training camp. Seriously, though, his track record as an offensive coach is pretty good. I'd take him over Martz. I would be 100% on board.
  21. jersey cubs fan
    It's definitely an advantage for an AL team, if that AL team chooses to actually pony up the dough. The Yankees, Red Sox and Angels are the three biggest AL spenders, I believe, and it doesn't appear any of them are involved. It remains to be seen if Seattle, Texas and Toronto are as willing to use the "we can hide him at DH in 2019" clause.
  22. jersey cubs fan
    So the Nets owner is going to run against Putin in the next elections. How weird is that?
  23. jersey cubs fan
    Really? I thought we heard quite a bit about MIL having interest. The names I recall were LAA, PHI and MIL. One of my favorite memories was the walk off HR he hit against MIL, I was listening on XM while driving down the shore. The wife was asleep and I woke her up with my yelp of joy.
  24. jersey cubs fan
    I'd like to see something like an option that gets guaranteed for year 6 if he finishes in the top 3 in MVP voting in any 2 years during the contract, or wins it in any 1 year. If Prince is your MVP it means 2 things, he had a hell of a year, and the Cubs as a team made the playoffs. If that happens then you have to be even more willing to take on a potentially grossly overpaid season at the back-end of the deal.
  25. jersey cubs fan
    I highly doubt that. A mediocre 30 year old 1B (which he'd be in a few years) is going to be a prime candidate to be replaced if the team is seriously building a contender.
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