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If you draft and develop they probably won't be doing much for another 5 years. -
You have to admit he's a fairly decent candidate, with marginal stuff and what has been mixed results so far. It's not like he and Clayton Kershaw have the same odds or anything.
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Semantics. Their value is that you don't have to waste $5 million on some veteran not-terrible player to do the same work. It's not semantics. You don't have to waste $5m on some vet to do the same thing, there's all kinds of cheaper veterans out there to do jobs. If all a guy can do is hold his own and not suck, as opposed to actually being productive or effective. You have to differentiate between being ready, and good, and just being ready to not embarrass themself.
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The trick is making sure the "ready" cost-controlled guy is actually good and spending the rest of the money wisely. Cost-controlled, in and of itself, has very little value.
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The idea is that you spend around it. You put up with Darwin Barney and Travis Wood so that you can afford Prince Fielder and Yu Darvish. In theory, anyway. So the better term is that they are useful. Their value can vary by quite a wide margin.
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Yeah, but if the Chicago Fire hired a spanish speaker, would you be upset? They are the only french language city/team in the league. It's not like the Cubs. I wouldn't mind if the Chicago Sumo team manager only spoke Japanese.
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Teams are getting super-stingy with their prospects. We might have been able to get some higher-ceiling low level guys, but personally I love guys who are ready to contribute with 0 or 1 years of service time. Those are highly valuable assets. They may be valuable but there's a good chance they aren't highly valuable. Ready to contribute guys can just be people like Colvin who aren't going to get any better. If you emphasize just getting guys who are ready that's a good way to lock-in very mediocre seasons.
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Cubs Buy McDonald's Parcel Across From Wrigley
jersey cubs fan replied to apete6's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
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Well it'll really be 3 cost controlled years, because what's the point in paying him big money those last 2 years when we won't be contending during them. They key is what you can get in a trade 3 years from now when you will be 2-3 years away from being able to use good players.
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I'm still waiting for concrete evidence that we're 'doing a rebuild'. NOTHING has came from Theo/Jed/Ricketts to say that a 'rebuild' is in place. The media also knows nothing - the new regime is so tight lipped it really has to be frustrating the Chicago media, who are not used to the business being ran that way. And not signing Pujols/Wilson/Darvish does not in any way imply to me that the Cubs are rebuilding. The moves the Cubs have made - DeJesus was a nice value sign which would make no sense for a rebuilding team (give that playing time to Jackson or Campana if you're throwing 2012), and Stewart, well someone has to play 3rd next year, and it might as well be a guy with some upside. The Cubs could still sign Fielder, Cespedes, and Kuroda, trade Garza, Byrd, and Marshall for some quality packages, and not only be in good position to compete in the division this year, but in great position for 2013 onward. Not purusing any big free agents. Signing middling free agents to short term deals. Trading Marshall Shopping Garza. To be fair, it's been more of a sitting on our hands situation to date than an actual rebuild.
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I like the idea of trading a reliever for a starting pitcher, but I think people are going a little overboard on valuing the "5-cost controlled years".
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There's a hell of a lot of douchebag "oh my god you guys are freaking out over nothing" posts contributing to that total.
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Eh. If Cutler doesn't go down, this team sweeps the AFC West with ease. Not sure what else he's supposed to say.
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Not that I know of, but if he signed a minor league deal already, after last season, he should consider firing his agent.
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TWO OF THOSE GUYS ARE GONE AFTER THE NEXT SEASON. God [expletive] dammit. And since they won't be winning next year, they won't be part of the team that eventually does win.
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Debatable. Debatable, but not worth debating, because it's Reed Johnson and it makes nary a dent on the overall team salary. It's inconsequential. He's one of 25 guys on the team. It's hardly inconsequential.
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one of the OF has to be on the way out I assume.
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No. Jackson is clearly starting the season in AAA. Reed Johnson is our fourth outfielder, and he's bad in that role. It's annoying that we signed a player to fill a role that he's bad at. The annoyance goes to anger in that he's symbolic of everything we hoped the new regime would do differently from the old one. I don't believe anything is "clear" until after Spring Training (Hell, Byrd could be traded by then). Symbolic of everything we hoped the new regime would do differently? Doesn't typing that make you feel just a smidge hyperbolic? It's one freaking signing. One freaking signing very deep into what has been a very disappointing offseason. Reed Johnson isn't good. His numbers were propped up by luck last year and he's old. He's not the type of player I want around this team anymore. If he's a minor league invite (doubtful), who cares. But I cannot stand wasting a million on garbage like this.
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Yeah, he stepped into a rough situation, one where a great QB like Cutler had to move all over the place to stay alive, but the bottom line is the guy had 4 years of being under contract to pay pro football and was atrocious in the few games he played. If he wants he could get any high school coaching job he wants or several college coaching opportunities. I wouldn't waste my pity on him.
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I don't really get what makes you think this is dragging on forever. Inevitably one or two of the bigger free agents lasts deeper into offseason than the rest.
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He didn't exactly mash lefties in his bounce back 2011. He's 35 and has mostly stunk in recent years.
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It doesn't have to kill the team to be a bad move. It doesn't help the team. They should be making moves that help the team.
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for the first time, no doubt
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The Cubs may be in Florida Panthers mode. If they aren't going to spend their budget on impact players they almost have to waste millions on crappy veterans just to make it look like they are willing to spend.
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Who the F cares who they "know"? That's something Dusty Baker would have said while giving a crappy veteran 500 PA to show what he can do in front of Dusty's eyes. You don't need to know the players.
