Shavo

They had it easily but Shockey dropped the pass ... WORST TEAM EVER!

Time for another 3 and out for the Giants, who continue their goal to become the worst team in football.

Way to watch the game ... Brees has been fine, but theres been somthing like 5 or 6 drops. PS: The Giants suck!

As a Knicks fan, we really aren't that bad ... we started slow but Isiah has got the team rolling lately. So losing to them isn't the biggest disaster. We beat the Jazz a few games ago :o

I expect Marquis to win the Cy Young.

what's so "proven" about marquis? that he's put up one slightly better than average year in the past five? wow, that's something to get excited about. and if marquis pitches anything like he did last year, i'd prefer that he not handle the work load of a full season. putting up a 5.50 era for 175 innings is pretty worthless. And I can ask you what's so proven about Gooz and Marshall? Again, nothing is a sure thing and I'd rather have too much pitching then not enough. If Gooz and Marshall are so much better they'll get their shot. no they won't. they're not going to bump marquis out of the rotation no matter how bad he is. oh, and guzman and marshall have proven that their paychecks are a lot smaller than marquis'. i'd agree with you that i'd rather have too much pitching than not enough, but not if you're paying 7 mil a year to the worst pitcher in baseball. Since when is he the worst pitcher in baseball? Are you kidding me? since the day the season ended? he had the worst era of any pitcher with more than 190 innings. he had the lowest vorp among pitchers with that many innings. carlos silva and joel pineiro gave him a run for his money, but they pitched less than him so what he "added" to the team hurt more. One bad (and it was, yes, REALLY bad) season after two solid ones should not qualify Marquis as the worst pitcher in baseball. It's not like he doesn't have decent stuff, and hes 28. With all the people on the boards who go on and on about "past preformance", I think I will use it in this case. Who cares what Marquis did last year? His combined ERA in the previous two seasons before 2006 was under 4. If Rothschild really found somthing he can fix, Marquis could be a huge bargian and pitch well. who cares what he did last year? are you kidding me? Not what I ment and you know it. Just saying thats what some people pretty much say about DeRosa.

what's so "proven" about marquis? that he's put up one slightly better than average year in the past five? wow, that's something to get excited about. and if marquis pitches anything like he did last year, i'd prefer that he not handle the work load of a full season. putting up a 5.50 era for 175 innings is pretty worthless. And I can ask you what's so proven about Gooz and Marshall? Again, nothing is a sure thing and I'd rather have too much pitching then not enough. If Gooz and Marshall are so much better they'll get their shot. no they won't. they're not going to bump marquis out of the rotation no matter how bad he is. oh, and guzman and marshall have proven that their paychecks are a lot smaller than marquis'. i'd agree with you that i'd rather have too much pitching than not enough, but not if you're paying 7 mil a year to the worst pitcher in baseball. Since when is he the worst pitcher in baseball? Are you kidding me? since the day the season ended? he had the worst era of any pitcher with more than 190 innings. he had the lowest vorp among pitchers with that many innings. carlos silva and joel pineiro gave him a run for his money, but they pitched less than him so what he "added" to the team hurt more. One bad (and it was, yes, REALLY bad) season after two solid ones should not qualify Marquis as the worst pitcher in baseball. It's not like he doesn't have decent stuff, and hes 28. With all the people on the boards who go on and on about "past preformance", I think I will use it in this case. Who cares what Marquis did last year? His combined ERA in the previous two seasons before 2006 was under 4. If Rothschild really found somthing he can fix, Marquis could be a huge bargian and pitch well. For now, it's the market. Doesn't mean you have to committ $22M in one season for these guys, not unless your GM is Jim "Captain Backload" Hendry. First off, since when are the two making a combined 22M? Even if the contracts weren't backloaded, I don't think the number would be this high. Secondly, I'm not a Lilly fan or a Marquis fan but they could easily pitch very well next season, with Marquis having lots more upside. What would you have done if you were GM?

For now, it's the market.

what's so "proven" about marquis? that he's put up one slightly better than average year in the past five? wow, that's something to get excited about. and if marquis pitches anything like he did last year, i'd prefer that he not handle the work load of a full season. putting up a 5.50 era for 175 innings is pretty worthless. And I can ask you what's so proven about Gooz and Marshall? Again, nothing is a sure thing and I'd rather have too much pitching then not enough. If Gooz and Marshall are so much better they'll get their shot. no they won't. they're not going to bump marquis out of the rotation no matter how bad he is. oh, and guzman and marshall have proven that their paychecks are a lot smaller than marquis'. i'd agree with you that i'd rather have too much pitching than not enough, but not if you're paying 7 mil a year to the worst pitcher in baseball. Since when is he the worst pitcher in baseball? Are you kidding me?

Baseball, meet my pal sarcasm.

I have no idea how you can say they are better then the Ravens with the Bears injuries this season. The Saints is a toss up.

How do people actually think Hill wont be in the rotation? Thats extreme pessimism for you.

Hopefully Marquis fixes what was wrong with him last season. He can be pretty damn solid if he does. I'm not opposed to this at all.

Sign Suppan and Meche. Zambrano, Hill, Suppan, Meche, Prior/Miller/Guzman/Marshall.

:?: Lilly isn't very good ... Meche impressed me alot more and I have seen both pitch at least 5-7 times last year

Meche in a landslide. Lilly pretty much sucks.

Meche Plz.

Sorry if it was already posted but I thought it was interesting. In other words: I painted myself into a corner and now I'm screwed. In other words: I can't afford even one retooling year, because my sorry ass will be fired if I don't produce a winner overnight. :lol: Owned.

OK. Who in the NFC is better than the Boys right now? I'll still say the Bears. Maybe Seattle, but I don't know if I really believe in them again yet. That D looks really leaky. Grossman absolutely ripped them to shreds----they're suspect. Not N.O. Not Carolina. I was really fusterated when I wrote that. Despite being a Giants fan, the Cowboys were my pick to go to the SB in the NFC.

Who cares any team that isn't garbage and won't hand them a game will beat them in the playoffs. There not that good. Edit: I'm reffering to the Cowboys.

Giants handed them the game and should miss the playoffs for this garbage. Might as well avoid a first round loss in the playoffs anyway whats the point. This franchise is done without Barber for at least 2 years anyway. Coughlin have fun as an assistant you moron, take your goons with you.

The Vikings sure call smart plays ... :roll:

This is the most bizarre game ever!

Wilkerson PLZ!

The Giants are so bad :lol: