If you are going to use Corey as the poster child for horrible coaching and managing, you also need to point out the success stories that the Cubs coaches and managers have had. Just to name a few players who have developed into better players since joining the Cubs in the past few years: Barrett Lee Grudz Dempster Borowski ARam Murton Could it be that some players simply play better in a different atmosphere? Was Dusty responsible for turning Barrett into one of the best offensive catchers in the game today? Was Dusty/Sarge responsible for DLee's incredible increase in power and average? Was Rothschild responsible for taking Dempster and making him into a good closer? I highly doubt that Baker had anything to do with Corey's lack of success. Corey was sucking equally before Baker came and after Baker came. There was a reason that hardly any teams were trying to trade for Corey. I'm glad that he is having success right now and hope that it continues, but to blame the coaching staff for his suckiness is quite a stretch. Corey is a massive warning sign as to how the Cubs deal with their rookie players. All the guys you listed, with the exception of Murton and A-Ram, had established careers in the bigs. I'll fully concede that the coaching staff with the Cubs may have helped them adjust to new roles or develop new skills, but I'm just as likely, if not more likely, to believe that most of those improvements came more from the players themselves. Lee studied films of hitters he admired and worked with his trainers to improve his swing. I'd lay money he would have done that no matter where he was at that point in his career. Dusty went out of his way NOT to use Dempster as a closer until it was absolutely necessary. Borowski flamed out spectacuarly due to injury...something that might be a tragic and running theme with Cubs pitching under the current coaching regime. Aramis is proving that unless he has a monster hitter in front of him, he's heartbreakingly average...or worse. Grudz is Grudz...he's decent, but nothing to call home about. And Murton...we are witnessing the tearing down of Murton by these monsters in front of our very eyes. At this point, his biggest asset at the plate is his patience, and the Cubs are telling him he needs to swing at more pitches and be more aggressive. And now he's wailing away at 1st and 2nd pitches he would have never swung at before, and getting nothing done offensively a LOT more. The Cubs' coaching staff is even worse than being bad...they're successfully RUINING players long term, or maybe even for good, if they keep their claws dug into them for too long. They can't all be sent packing too soon for my liking. Until they are, I have NO hope for Pie, Patterson, Guzman, Murton, Cedeno, etc., etc., etc..