Which four are you talking about as being "very good to great teams?" Is it USC/Nebraska/Tennessee/Penn State or FSU/Florida/Miami/LSU? Because if you are talking about Group A: then I disagree. USC has been consistantly good, but the other three, are pretty much hit or miss at this time. They can be good, but as of right now, Tenn/PSU/Neb are middle of the pack average teams in their conferences. Now if you are talking about Group B: I disagree. Miami and FSU has basically been mediocre since the start of the new century. At this point of time, Miami and FSU are recognizable based on school rep, moreso then on-the-field production. Of those 8 teams, only three of them (less then half) can be caterize as "good to great teams." The other 5 teams are.......need things to break right to have a good season. While Tennessee isn't an elite program right now by any means, to say we're "middle of the pack average," is overexaggerating our recent downtimes a bit. 2007: 10 wins and an SEC East title - lost the SEC Championship game with 2 late picks 2006 : 9 wins and a second place finish in the East 2005: 5-6 - most definitely a terrible year where every break went against us 2004: 10 wins and an SEC East title - gave an unbeaten Auburn (should've been in the National title game) everything they wanted 2003: 10 wins and a 3-way tie for the SEC East title There's no doubt we haven't been quite as good as I would have liked, but 10 wins a year (save one) and top two in the East four of the last five years (including twice being in the SEC Championship game) is better than middle of the pack SEC. RedFlash is a Bammer. 'Nuff said. Good point. I forgot about that. :lol: Really, I've asserted for awhile now that without that 5 win year (I realize you can't omit the season, but still...) people wouldn't hate Fulmer nearly as much as they do. If a couple of breaks had gone our way (like the ball Cory Anderson had securely wrapped up that was popped out and conveniently wound up going out the back of the end zone when we had Bama beat) and that season ended up 7-8 wins - Fulmer wouldn't be as universally despised as he's gotten. His wins/arrests ratio hurt pretty badly.