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Okay.

I have to be honest with you- I haven't paid a bit of attention to your team thus far, but I thought for sure that you'd have a juggernaut. What has happened up to this point?

Smells like teen spirit to me. I'm guessing this deal is most likely with D.Pound since he doesn't have any minor leaguers. It is. I know you and at least one other person have offered him some players, and I had to offer a little more than what I perceived you and mystery owner to offer, and it will not "wreck" my system, but it definitely puts a huge dent into it. All that, and I don't even get Beltran. But, I'm tired of losing. Screw the future. Time to win now.

I'm about to completely wreck my farm system for a hopeful blockbuster. Please God, let this work... :beg:

I would hope that it wouldn't take 48 hours to make the first two picks. :roll: I don't know how long it will take, but I do know that from Friday night through Sunday afternoon at the earliest I'll be out and about. If my pick is on the clock by midday Friday, no problem. But if it's up at 5pm Friday, I won't be around a computer. IF you want one of us to, you could surely send someone your "draft queue" and someone could make picks for you. It'd be much better than what happened to Goony for the draft. I don't trust preranked drafts of any kind. I'm still under the assumption that one of you sneaky bastards purposefully drafted wounded relievers and backup middle infielders for me. I'll wait until the time comes. I may have the 1st pick by then anyway. Wait a sec... are you Goony? Dude, you are like a phantom or something. I feel like I've just seen the Loch Ness Monster or the Yeti or something! ;)

I would hope that it wouldn't take 48 hours to make the first two picks. :roll: I don't know how long it will take, but I do know that from Friday night through Sunday afternoon at the earliest I'll be out and about. If my pick is on the clock by midday Friday, no problem. But if it's up at 5pm Friday, I won't be around a computer. IF you want one of us to, you could surely send someone your "draft queue" and someone could make picks for you. It'd be much better than what happened to Goony for the draft.

Will there be a rule in place limiting the number of picks a team can make to the number of open spots he has on his minor league roster?

This should bring harmony and unity back this thread.

I don't believe that Negedu is a legit one-and-done type player. He's an explosive player who is extremely raw. Whoever gets him (IU, Tennessee, or Memphis) probably has at least a two year player. All 3 programs have significant pros for Negedu to consider. If he's truly looking to be one-and-done, he's going to IU, imo.

1. I think that we've already established that Illinois was relevant last year for losing a recruiting battle and fans behaving like total asshats because of it. 2. So you're angry that Pearl can pull more college tail than you? Yep we lost him and IU got him. In order to get him they brought in Kelvin Sampson. How did that work out for them? You always have to be careful when you lie with snakes. But, in a few years I suspect you will know that. Also the second thing you posted is terrible. Yeah I do have a problem with a married man, which he was at the time of those pictures being taken, chasing around college age girls. I guess you don't. Maybe you should worry about morals. Funny how the self-righteous Illini fans are quick to point out Kelvin Sampson's dirty recruiting, yet hate Bruce Pearl for his exposing theirs. Illini fans are nothing, if not extremely hypocritical, I guess. And, for the record, my second point was absolutely tongue-in-cheek, which I can totally understand you missing. I don't approve of him having an affair- IF he indeed has (which has never been substantiated.) So, until you whiney, sore-loser Illini fans can come up with something that resembles proof that Pearl has done somethng wrong, I will reserve my judgement of his character. Ooohh... big bad Bruce Pearl had his picture taken with his arm around a college girl.... I don't see the harm in that. It's not like he went all Larry Eustachy on some chick.

1. I think that we've already established that Illinois was relevant last year for losing a recruiting battle and fans behaving like total asshats because of it. 2. So you're angry that Pearl can pull more college tail than you?

Face it... Indiana, even when struggling (which they will do in 08-09) is more relevant everywhere else in the world, outside of Illinois. Indiana is a national program who makes headlines whether winning or losing. Illinois is a team that no one outside of Big 10 country knows or cares about except when winning. Illinois is on par with the South Carolina's and Florida State's of the college basketball world. In 2008, that is irrelevant. I'm sorry if that stirs an Illini fans inferiority complex, but it's true. While Illinois might be irrelevant this year 1) Comparing them to Florida State or South Carolina is wrong 2) You are a Tennessee fan, so you have less credibility on issues of relevance than a UNC (MPrior) or UCLA fan (Raisin) I don't even like Illinois I guess he doesn't realize that if Head or Williams knocks down one of the four threes they had against UNC, we are a top ten all time program. Without the title, we are probably the best program without one. I get when the Kansas, UNC, UCLA, IU, UCONN, MSU, Syracuse, and Duke fans say we aren't all that good compared to their programs. But, when a program who has never made it to a final four is trying to shoot us down it is just funny. Once again, this is not an historical debate. How you cannot grasp that is beyond me. Must not be much reading comprehension taught in Illinois. Who cares what you would have been IF such and such had happened? Stupid argument. If Adolph Rupp had coached at Tennessee instead of Kentucky, Tennessee would be an all time Top 10 program. See how patently ridiculous that argument is? But, he did not coach Tennessee, and it is not a top 10 all-time program. When a program rises to the top for a year or two, their fans tend to get pretty cocky about it. Example #1) You Ahh, I see that you did not bother to read my entire post. Your comment proved exactly what I said. Glad to see that lack of reading comprehension skills is not limited to Illini fans. Example #1: you. Yeah we all forget how to comprehend what we read, it happens when our team makes a final four. Don't worry it will never happen to you. This is one of the stupidest things ever posted on the internet. You have noting of substance to post in response to a spot-on remark, and resort to nonsense. Good for you.

Face it... Indiana, even when struggling (which they will do in 08-09) is more relevant everywhere else in the world, outside of Illinois. Indiana is a national program who makes headlines whether winning or losing. Illinois is a team that no one outside of Big 10 country knows or cares about except when winning. Illinois is on par with the South Carolina's and Florida State's of the college basketball world. In 2008, that is irrelevant. I'm sorry if that stirs an Illini fans inferiority complex, but it's true. While Illinois might be irrelevant this year 1) Comparing them to Florida State or South Carolina is wrong 2) You are a Tennessee fan, so you have less credibility on issues of relevance than a UNC (MPrior) or UCLA fan (Raisin) I don't even like Illinois I guess he doesn't realize that if Head or Williams knocks down one of the four threes they had against UNC, we are a top ten all time program. Without the title, we are probably the best program without one. I get when the Kansas, UNC, UCLA, IU, UCONN, MSU, Syracuse, and Duke fans say we aren't all that good compared to their programs. But, when a program who has never made it to a final four is trying to shoot us down it is just funny. Once again, this is not an historical debate. How you cannot grasp that is beyond me. Must not be much reading comprehension taught in Illinois. Who cares what you would have been IF such and such had happened? Stupid argument. If Adolph Rupp had coached at Tennessee instead of Kentucky, Tennessee would be an all time Top 10 program. See how patently ridiculous that argument is? But, he did not coach Tennessee, and it is not a top 10 all-time program. When a program rises to the top for a year or two, their fans tend to get pretty cocky about it. Example #1) You Ahh, I see that you did not bother to read my entire post. Your comment proved exactly what I said. Glad to see that lack of reading comprehension skills is not limited to Illini fans. Example #1: you.

Face it... Indiana, even when struggling (which they will do in 08-09) is more relevant everywhere else in the world, outside of Illinois. Indiana is a national program who makes headlines whether winning or losing. Illinois is a team that no one outside of Big 10 country knows or cares about except when winning. Illinois is on par with the South Carolina's and Florida State's of the college basketball world. In 2008, that is irrelevant. I'm sorry if that stirs an Illini fans inferiority complex, but it's true. Indiana relevant because they're a historically great program. Tennessee relevant because they're returning a team that lost in the 2nd round. Illinois irrelevant because they were bad last year, and we aren't talking about history here. Ummmm? EDIT: And I realize this is a really stupid argument to even care about, but I never really got my gloating in about how terrible the SEC was last year. Let me help you out here... Indiana: 25-8, 14-4 in the Big 10 (3rd). Highest profile coaching change in College Basketball. Relevant. Tennessee: 31-5, 14-2 (SEC Regular Season Champs). Ranked #1 during the season, made it to the Sweet 16. Relevant. Illinois: 16-19, 5-13, 9th in the Big 10. Irrelevant. And, yes, your argument is stupid. I guess when your team sucks, all you can do is ride the coattails of the good teams in your conference? Chris Lofton and Tyler Smith did not play for the SEC... they played for Tennessee. I don't know I would say we were relevant last year. Just for the wrong reasons. We were still on ESPN a ton and they did talk about us being down. We also were in the biggest soap opera storyline of the season. Please tell me that you didn't just claim relevance based on Gordon choosing IU over Illinois? YOu were relevant for being on the wrong end of a recruiting battle and for your fans showing a complete and total lack of class because of it?!? Okay. :good:

Face it... Indiana, even when struggling (which they will do in 08-09) is more relevant everywhere else in the world, outside of Illinois. Indiana is a national program who makes headlines whether winning or losing. Illinois is a team that no one outside of Big 10 country knows or cares about except when winning. Illinois is on par with the South Carolina's and Florida State's of the college basketball world. In 2008, that is irrelevant. I'm sorry if that stirs an Illini fans inferiority complex, but it's true. While Illinois might be irrelevant this year 1) Comparing them to Florida State or South Carolina is wrong 2) You are a Tennessee fan, so you have less credibility on issues of relevance than a UNC (MPrior) or UCLA fan (Raisin) I don't even like Illinois I guess he doesn't realize that if Head or Williams knocks down one of the four threes they had against UNC, we are a top ten all time program. Without the title, we are probably the best program without one. I get when the Kansas, UNC, UCLA, IU, UCONN, MSU, Syracuse, and Duke fans say we aren't all that good compared to their programs. But, when a program who has never made it to a final four is trying to shoot us down it is just funny. Once again, this is not an historical debate. How you cannot grasp that is beyond me. Must not be much reading comprehension taught in Illinois. Who cares what you would have been IF such and such had happened? Stupid argument. If Adolph Rupp had coached at Tennessee instead of Kentucky, Tennessee would be an all time Top 10 program. See how patently ridiculous that argument is?

Face it... Indiana, even when struggling (which they will do in 08-09) is more relevant everywhere else in the world, outside of Illinois. Indiana is a national program who makes headlines whether winning or losing. Illinois is a team that no one outside of Big 10 country knows or cares about except when winning. Illinois is on par with the South Carolina's and Florida State's of the college basketball world. In 2008, that is irrelevant. I'm sorry if that stirs an Illini fans inferiority complex, but it's true. Indiana relevant because they're a historically great program. Tennessee relevant because they're returning a team that lost in the 2nd round. Illinois irrelevant because they were bad last year, and we aren't talking about history here. Ummmm? EDIT: And I realize this is a really stupid argument to even care about, but I never really got my gloating in about how terrible the SEC was last year. Let me help you out here... Indiana: 25-8, 14-4 in the Big 10 (3rd). Highest profile coaching change in College Basketball. Relevant. Tennessee: 31-5, 14-2 (SEC Regular Season Champs). Ranked #1 during the season, made it to the Sweet 16. Relevant. Illinois: 16-19, 5-13, 9th in the Big 10. Irrelevant. And, yes, your argument is stupid. I guess when your team sucks, all you can do is ride the coattails of the good teams in your conference? Chris Lofton and Tyler Smith did not play for the SEC... they played for Tennessee.

Face it... Indiana, even when struggling (which they will do in 08-09) is more relevant everywhere else in the world, outside of Illinois. Indiana is a national program who makes headlines whether winning or losing. Illinois is a team that no one outside of Big 10 country knows or cares about except when winning. Illinois is on par with the South Carolina's and Florida State's of the college basketball world. In 2008, that is irrelevant. I'm sorry if that stirs an Illini fans inferiority complex, but it's true. But, Tennesse is??? Yeah, thought so. Right now? Yes. Thought so.

wait, you mean two years doesn't make a legacy? Legacy? Who's talking legacy? This thread is about basketball in 2008. Illinois is irrelevant. Indiana is not, and I was mostly just trying to get a rise out of some of you Big 10 homers. But, Illinois most definitely is. Now, if this thread were entitled "Historical College Basketball", that would be an altogether different story. Yes, top 15 in wins and winning percentage and final fours all time is definately irrelevant. Good lord. Here's to hoping you guys make a final four. Ever. Hell get back to me when you have more tournament wins than St. Joes or Western Kentucky. When irrelevance is mentioned the very definition is Tennessee mens basketball. I think you're misinterpreting what he's saying. I think he means that Illinois and Indiana will be irrelevant next year - which is true - while Tennessee won't. And when he says if you're talking historically then Tennessee is obviously the irrelevant team. I don't think Tennessee will be all that relevant this year either. They lost a lot. They will be better than both of us though. Tennessee did lose quite a bit. However, to call a team that will begin the year in the Top 15 or so, with SEC POY candidate Tyler Smith and a Top 10 (possibly Top 5, if Negedu signs) class irrelevant is laughable. And, once more... I give props to both Indiana and Illinois for the program's historical relevance. Both have better and more storied histories than Tennessee- no one is debating that. I'm saying that right now- in this current year (and for the past 3) Illinois has been irrelevant. What has all you Illini fans with your panties in such a wad?

Face it... Indiana, even when struggling (which they will do in 08-09) is more relevant everywhere else in the world, outside of Illinois. Indiana is a national program who makes headlines whether winning or losing. Illinois is a team that no one outside of Big 10 country knows or cares about except when winning. Illinois is on par with the South Carolina's and Florida State's of the college basketball world. In 2008, that is irrelevant. I'm sorry if that stirs an Illini fans inferiority complex, but it's true.

Yes, Indiana basketball is relevant, just as I said. Illinois is not. What are you not comprehending? Clearly something, because if you had understood what I said, the entire second sentence of your response would have been unnecessary.

wait, you mean two years doesn't make a legacy? Legacy? Who's talking legacy? This thread is about basketball in 2008. Illinois is irrelevant. Indiana is not, and I was mostly just trying to get a rise out of some of you Big 10 homers. But, Illinois most definitely is. Now, if this thread were entitled "Historical College Basketball", that would be an altogether different story.

Wrong thread, this is for discussion of irrelevant college basketball. True that.

Mooch... Dude, why'd you sign a guy who's played horrendously to this point on the day that it is announced that he's going to be out 4-6 weeks?

The Rivals #1 class. It's just sick.

You can't argue with top 5 numbers. I would be surprised if you're offered better. Actually, I have not gotten any sniffs, so I guess I am overvaluing Wright but by year's end he will be a top position player so I will not give him away and still stand by my request for a top player or players. The pitcher you offered has only done it recently so I don't consider it top 5 performance. So you think Wright is worth more than the 6th top pitcher- Lee (and you'd be right) but turned down a top 8 RF PLUS an exempt pitcher and a Top 100 minor leaguer for the 29th top pitcher to this point? Sounds pretty inconsistent to me. You may have to remind me about that particular trade because it does not right a bell...if your numbers are correct then it would be a bad rejection. If you are talking about your last offer for Haren, then I would disagree because Haren is better than a 29th top pitcher...Hawpe is a nice player but not a top 8 RF (I should know, I had Hawpe last year and traded him because of his inconsistencies) and the exempt pitcher you offered was not any better than what I had (exempt or non exempt) and there was no Top 100 minor leaguer in the offer Hawpe WAS the 8th best RF last year. Look it up. (And you say "I should know, I traded him because he was inconsistent. Dude, you traded him to me on April 9th.) Litsch is nothing special, you're right, but Lowrie is a BA Top 100 prospect, and played 3 positions while up earlier this year. You can check for yourself, but everything I've posted is accurate.