Is that "your" 2nd rounder or one of the ones you acquirred in a trade? Mine. I still have yours and Tim's. I hear lots of points offers are being discussed. I think my fears (and the reason I initially said no) are about to be realized. Gonna be a thin draft in 2009, I'm afraid. But, the bright side is, all the guys who check out and don't participate over the winter are gonna be penalized for not paying attention. The draft will just continue to get weaker while they're not paying attention. I don't think it will be as bad as you think. There are only so many points to go around and I have run into three teams already that are not willing to give up any points or don't have enough left to give up to make much of a difference. You have to pay attention in this league. It's like the NFL Network 24/7/365. :thumbsup: Yep. I am a TOTAL DORK, but I have every team's *anticipated* keepers, and as best as I can tell, there are only about 3 teams with more than 100 points to give away. Of course, 2 of those 3 aren't doing anything right now, so it's only Nick who's giving points away. But, he sounds like he might give almost half of them away, and that will buy an extra 3-5 players if the points get moved around right. I'm intrigued by the fact that you've run into 3 teams not wiling to give anything away. I know Nick is. I might be (I've offered points for a pick to someone, and am waiting on that reply), but I know that Roady isn't. That still leaves 2 people from whom you've heard, and I cannot figure out who that might be. I've left messages on CBS and here for 3 people and have heard nothing in response. True, it's only October, but with the new rules, it does not make sense to wait until the point-drop deadline to be active. I wonder if a league-wide message explaining the new rule and how it affects the offseason would be useful?