Trading Derrek Lee

[ManCrushOnNomar]

Pujols is baseball's best player and is only 25 years old.

 

I have a bridge connecting two burroughs of New York City available for sale if you actually believe he is 25.

I was about to offer him some beachfront property!

[Mark_R]

Pujols is baseball's best player and is only 25 years old.

 

I have a bridge connecting two burroughs of New York City available for sale if you actually believe he is 25.

 

Even if he's 28 or whatever, he's still baseball's best player.

 

If he's 40 or something, that's a different story.

 

i would have to give that to arod ahead of albert. when he's play ss his defense gives him the edge over pujols imo.

 

I would take Pujols over ARod if I had to start my team. That isn't even counting in salary considerations.

[Outshined_One]

The teams that would most likely be interested in Lee's services (imo):

 

Boston - Probably the #1 suitor considering the black hole of doom and defensive despair they currently have occupying 1B.

NY Yankees - Like they wouldn't enjoy sticking it to Boston?

Baltimore Orioles - Considering what happened to their previous 1B, they might also have a good amount of interest.

Toronto Blue Jays - They've got money to throw around and Eric Hinske is their current 1B. That can't be a good thing.

Atlanta Braves - I think LaRoche is a decent player and all, but the Braves would be more than happy to make this deal. I'd avoid accepting pitching from them, however.

Washington Nationals - I have no idea what to expect of this team, but taking adavtage of Bowden would be fun.

Arizona Diamondbacks - Not a bad candidate overall, considering the prospects they have. Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

LA Dodgers - We could get Hee Seop Choi back! :D In all seriousness, this is a team always looking for bats.

SD Padres - Although, this move would forever doom Lee's offensive numbers.

SF Giants - Hitting behind Bonds would definitely be a treat for Lee, though.

 

Every team I left off either didn't have the financial resources (KC, TB, etc), had good cheap young talent in place at 1B (Philly, Milwaukee, etc), or would be a guaranteed damnation for the Cubs (STL, HOU).

[mg420]

Pujols is baseball's best player and is only 25 years old.

 

I have a bridge connecting two burroughs of New York City available for sale if you actually believe he is 25.

 

Even if he's 28 or whatever, he's still baseball's best player.

 

If he's 40 or something, that's a different story.

 

i would have to give that to arod ahead of albert. when he's play ss his defense gives him the edge over pujols imo.

 

I would take Pujols over ARod if I had to start my team. That isn't even counting in salary considerations.

 

thats fine. doesnt mean he's the better player though. i guess it's a matter of opinion.

[indifferent]

I wasn't on the board when Pujols signed a long term and signing with your imcumbent team isn't sexy, but what was the general tone on this board when it happened? It was a hefty contract.

 

I think his contracts to Pujols and Carpenter could be his crowning achievements in this tenure in St. Louis.

[Bote McBoteface]

Unless Pujols turns out to be a 32 year old steroid abuser who starts to break down after next season, the deal was great for the Cards.

[indifferent]

Unless Pujols turns out to be a 32 year old steroid abuser who starts to break down after next season, the deal was great for the Cards.

 

Love my fellow Cantonian's opinion :D !

[fearthecubs]

No offense to anyone, but is this the stupidest thread I've had the bad luck of reading. Trade Lee!?

[Productive Outs]

No offense to anyone, but is this the stupidest thread I've had the bad luck of reading. Trade Lee!?

 

it would be nice if you would tell us why you think this would be such a bad decision.

[treebird]

No offense to anyone, but is this the stupidest thread I've had the bad luck of reading. Trade Lee!?

 

when will lee's value ever be higher? even considering that his contract is almost up, you have to believe that everyone is just going to think less of him after he hits 270/360/500 again, especially when he's got 4 more years on his contract. i cant wait till we're paying lee 13 million to hit 260/350/450 while playing real solid d at 1b.

[rocket]

Lee for Jose Mesa, it's still not too late.

[imb]

Lee for Jose Mesa, it's still not too late.

 

if jim wasnt asleep at the wheel, we'd already have our closer and we wouldnt have had to sign dumpster to that ridiculous contract

[treebird]

Lee for Jose Mesa, it's still not too late.

 

if jim wasnt asleep at the wheel, we'd already have our closer and we wouldnt have had to sign dumpster to that ridiculous contract

 

hendry for cash, it's the best possible deal, we can make it with whichever team is the dumbest and will give us the most moolah

[CoolHandLuke]

I think it is a no brainer to feel out some possibilities for a lee trade. And to all of those who immediately bash this thread, the guy is not saying trade him for crap, he is saying if you can get great value for him you pull the trigger!

 

All that said there is no way Hendry feels this way.

[A New Era]

right, lets trade our best player so that we can sign some of our other players. Nevermind the fact that we would totally suck without Derrek and the other players that we are trying to save money to keep wouldn't want to be here when we finish in last place. Nevermind that little fact.

 

My god, why is it that every time somebody has success somebody wants to trade him so that we can get "max value" out of him. Thats stupid.

 

Agree'd. Why trade MAX VALUE for MAX VALUE. Especially when you are trading a well loved Cubs player (the fans and team loves him). . If Derrick got 5/60 (12 a year) he is worth that and I want him hear for 5 more years.

[treebird]

right, lets trade our best player so that we can sign some of our other players. Nevermind the fact that we would totally suck without Derrek and the other players that we are trying to save money to keep wouldn't want to be here when we finish in last place. Nevermind that little fact.

 

My god, why is it that every time somebody has success somebody wants to trade him so that we can get "max value" out of him. Thats stupid.

 

Agree'd. Why trade MAX VALUE for MAX VALUE. Especially when you are trading a well loved Cubs player (the fans and team loves him). . If Derrick got 5/60 (12 a year) he is worth that and I want him hear for 5 more years.

 

do you really think he'll ever be worth close to 12 million in a year? even assuming he's the best 1b glove in the leagur, which he's not?

[CoolHandLuke]

right, lets trade our best player so that we can sign some of our other players. Nevermind the fact that we would totally suck without Derrek and the other players that we are trying to save money to keep wouldn't want to be here when we finish in last place. Nevermind that little fact.

 

My god, why is it that every time somebody has success somebody wants to trade him so that we can get "max value" out of him. Thats stupid.

 

Agree'd. Why trade MAX VALUE for MAX VALUE. Especially when you are trading a well loved Cubs player (the fans and team loves him). . If Derrick got 5/60 (12 a year) he is worth that and I want him hear for 5 more years.

 

That is party due to the fact that you, as most fans do, think with your heart instead of your head. And I don't mean that as an insult, it is just the truth.

[A New Era]

right, lets trade our best player so that we can sign some of our other players. Nevermind the fact that we would totally suck without Derrek and the other players that we are trying to save money to keep wouldn't want to be here when we finish in last place. Nevermind that little fact.

 

My god, why is it that every time somebody has success somebody wants to trade him so that we can get "max value" out of him. Thats stupid.

 

Agree'd. Why trade MAX VALUE for MAX VALUE. Especially when you are trading a well loved Cubs player (the fans and team loves him). . If Derrick got 5/60 (12 a year) he is worth that and I want him hear for 5 more years.

 

That is party due to the fact that you, as most fans do, think with your heart instead of your head. And I don't mean that as an insult, it is just the truth.

 

Fair enough. But do you think Konerko is worth $12 mil per? I personally think Lee would sign for less, but he's deffinatly better than Konerko. Even if he does slip a little next year, it won't be that much. I beleive the story about him making adjustments at the plate and feeling more confident. He will be improved over his carreer stats that's for sure.

[cubbyvirus00]

good idea

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[CoolHandLuke]

right, lets trade our best player so that we can sign some of our other players. Nevermind the fact that we would totally suck without Derrek and the other players that we are trying to save money to keep wouldn't want to be here when we finish in last place. Nevermind that little fact.

 

My god, why is it that every time somebody has success somebody wants to trade him so that we can get "max value" out of him. Thats stupid.

 

Agree'd. Why trade MAX VALUE for MAX VALUE. Especially when you are trading a well loved Cubs player (the fans and team loves him). . If Derrick got 5/60 (12 a year) he is worth that and I want him hear for 5 more years.

 

 

Fair enough.

 

And of course gms have to take the fans feelings into account so as to not alienate them but imo there are many other things that must be considered first.

 

 

To answer your Konerko question I don't think I can answer it. If that is what some team is willing to pay him on the open market then I suppose it is what he is worth. I would personally look for cheaper options first.

[Careless]

Toronto Blue Jays - They've got money to throw around and Eric Hinske is their current 1B. That can't be a good thing.

Wow. And to think how bad letting him go looked a few years back

[Careless]

I wasn't on the board when Pujols signed a long term and signing with your imcumbent team isn't sexy, but what was the general tone on this board when it happened? It was a hefty contract.

 

I think his contracts to Pujols and Carpenter could be his crowning achievements in this tenure in St. Louis.

I don't think anyone panned it. I'd say the tone was between "fair deal" and "lucky SOB's"

I'd pay pujols $15 a season

Oh, and if anyone has any idea how the term "panned" came to have its present meaning, please, share

[Mark_R]

Fair enough. But do you think Konerko is worth $12 mil per? I personally think Lee would sign for less, but he's deffinatly better than Konerko. Even if he does slip a little next year, it won't be that much. I beleive the story about him making adjustments at the plate and feeling more confident. He will be improved over his carreer stats that's for sure.

 

Lee's agent (whose name escapes me) would be a fool to not seek a deal worth that kind of coin. And if the old 10 percent "rule" goes into effect (comparable players getting roughly 10 percent more each passing season) a 5/66 deal is what you'd be looking at.

 

That is a lot of money to be tied up into a great player who would spend most of that contract leaving his prime years.

[Backtobanks]

right, lets trade our best player so that we can sign some of our other players. Nevermind the fact that we would totally suck without Derrek and the other players that we are trying to save money to keep wouldn't want to be here when we finish in last place. Nevermind that little fact.

 

My god, why is it that every time somebody has success somebody wants to trade him so that we can get "max value" out of him. Thats stupid.

 

Agree'd. Why trade MAX VALUE for MAX VALUE. Especially when you are trading a well loved Cubs player (the fans and team loves him). . If Derrick got 5/60 (12 a year) he is worth that and I want him hear for 5 more years.

 

do you really think he'll ever be worth close to 12 million in a year? even assuming he's the best 1b glove in the leagur, which he's not?

 

If Furcal is worth $10-$13 million per year, then Derrick is worth $17 million.

[Mark Priors Calves]

right, lets trade our best player so that we can sign some of our other players. Nevermind the fact that we would totally suck without Derrek and the other players that we are trying to save money to keep wouldn't want to be here when we finish in last place. Nevermind that little fact.

 

My god, why is it that every time somebody has success somebody wants to trade him so that we can get "max value" out of him. Thats stupid.

 

Agree'd. Why trade MAX VALUE for MAX VALUE. Especially when you are trading a well loved Cubs player (the fans and team loves him). . If Derrick got 5/60 (12 a year) he is worth that and I want him hear for 5 more years.

 

do you really think he'll ever be worth close to 12 million in a year? even assuming he's the best 1b glove in the leagur, which he's not?

 

If Furcal is worth $10-$13 million per year, then Derrick is worth $17 million.

 

If Lee's expecting 17 million a year, I'd let him walk. There's no way I'd pay him that much.