40 man additions

[Illini Iceman]

The only move I question is Reyes. I'd rather kept 1 more arm (Brownlie).

Isn't it possible Hendry has had interest from other teams for one of those 4 catchers & if one is traded he would like to have 3 on his 40 man roster?

Isn't Reyes fairly young & has the potential to be a ML catcher?

What kind of year did Brownlie have & what type of ceiling do we expect from him?

 

Brownlie had an okay year out of the pen, but lost velocity on his fastball that he previously had in college.

 

I think he would have made sense to protect over Aardsma. Brownlie may not have the big fastball anymore, but he can still get guys out by pitching intelligently. Aardsma really can't do either, but he can throw hard.

 

There is less chance that Brownlie gets selected in Rule 5 and sticks on a 25 man roster all year than there is that if Aardsma was removed from the Cubs 40 man roster that he would have been picked up by another team and added to their 40 man.

 

I don't know about that. I think that teams like Texas, Tampa Bay, Kansas City and Pittsburgh could use an arm out of the pen like Brownlie's. Also, if Aardsma got picked up in rule 5 I couldn't care less. Williams was the key to that deal, Aardsma doesn't look like much of a pitcher.

 

Velocity means nothing if you can't control and locate your pitches.

 

The point is that if you removed Aardsma from the 40 man to make room for Brownlie then teams would not need to use Rule 5 to get him. They would only have needed to claim him and put him on their 40 man roster. We will see about Brownlie, the numbers last year in AAA were not impressive and I think the lingering injury concerns hanging over him will probably scare teams away.

[USSoccer]

The point is that if you removed Aardsma from the 40 man to make room for Brownlie then teams would not need to use Rule 5 to get him. They would only have needed to claim him and put him on their 40 man roster. We will see about Brownlie, the numbers last year in AAA were not impressive and I think the lingering injury concerns hanging over him will probably scare teams away.

 

I don't know. I've always been a fan of Brownlie's, since he pitches with his head. I actually think hes a pitcher that would benifit from some time watching Maddux. Also, I don't really think injury concerns are going to scare teams off of Brownlie any more than attitude issues scared teams from Sisco, or injuries initally scared Florida off of Luke Hagerty (I think that was who it was).

 

And II, I really, really don't care if we lose Aardsma. I value the extra 40 man spot more than I value an erratic fireballer.

[USSoccer]

Cubs.com has the 40 man at 40 guys, with Wood on it, now. Is that correct?

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Cubs.com has the 40 man at 40 guys, with Wood on it, now. Is that correct?

No, it's missing Scott Moore

[USSoccer]

Cubs.com has the 40 man at 40 guys, with Wood on it, now. Is that correct?

No, it's missing Scott Moore

 

Okay, thanks.

 

Moore should also be trade bait this winter.

[Jehrico]

Velocity means nothing if you can't control and locate your pitches.

 

He has about as good of control as Randy Johnson had at that stage of his career. I think the Cubs see value in him because they believe, for one reason or another, that at some point, he's going to figure it out like Johnson did, and could eventually be groomed into a pretty darned good closer.

[USSoccer]

Velocity means nothing if you can't control and locate your pitches.

 

He has about as good of control as Randy Johnson had at that stage of his career. I think the Cubs see value in him because they believe, for one reason or another, that at some point, he's going to figure it out like Johnson did, and could eventually be groomed into a pretty darned good closer.

 

The only problem with that line of thinking is that the Cubs have had little success in coaching command of pitches. How many young bullpen guys have come up with good stuff but poor location? How many of them have actually developed into reliable pen guys?

[Tim]

For those who say that we should have risked losing Dope becasue he likely wouldn't stick is somewhat alarming. Many of us (me included) never dreamnt that Sisco would stick and he did. I would rather be safe with Dope at the expense of losing Sing or Fontenot then lose Dope (our #2 prospect remeber) for nothing.

I agree with your position on Dope, but I think we all have to remember that it is a lot easier for a pitcher to stick after the Rule 5 draft then a position player. Sisco being able to be stashed in the back of the Royals bullpen is a lot more likely then someone keeping Dopirak on their bench for a whole season. Still better not to risk it with such highly rated prospect.

 

-Banghart

Detroit. Chris Shelton.

[mhuber92211]

For those who say that we should have risked losing Dope becasue he likely wouldn't stick is somewhat alarming. Many of us (me included) never dreamnt that Sisco would stick and he did. I would rather be safe with Dope at the expense of losing Sing or Fontenot then lose Dope (our #2 prospect remeber) for nothing.

I agree with your position on Dope, but I think we all have to remember that it is a lot easier for a pitcher to stick after the Rule 5 draft then a position player. Sisco being able to be stashed in the back of the Royals bullpen is a lot more likely then someone keeping Dopirak on their bench for a whole season. Still better not to risk it with such highly rated prospect.

 

-Banghart

Detroit. Chris Shelton.

 

Boston - Adam Stern although admittingly more advanced then Dope

[LoneStarCubFan]

Do Arbitration eligible players count against the 40-man before they get their new contracts? Z, CPat, Hairston, and Macias being arby eligible fixes the lack of spots if they don't.

 

If Wood's on the 60-day DL I don't think he counts against the 40-man.

[Tim]

Do Arbitration eligible players count against the 40-man before they get their new contracts? Z, CPat, Hairston, and Macias being arby eligible fixes the lack of spots if they don't.

 

If Wood's on the 60-day DL I don't think he counts against the 40-man.

There is no 60 day DL during the offseason. He counts.

[USSoccer]

Do Arbitration eligible players count against the 40-man before they get their new contracts? Z, CPat, Hairston, and Macias being arby eligible fixes the lack of spots if they don't.

 

If Wood's on the 60-day DL I don't think he counts against the 40-man.

There is no 60 day DL during the offseason. He counts.

 

So then is Scott Moore actually on there? Or is he not?

[E.J.]

Do Arbitration eligible players count against the 40-man before they get their new contracts? Z, CPat, Hairston, and Macias being arby eligible fixes the lack of spots if they don't.

 

If Wood's on the 60-day DL I don't think he counts against the 40-man.

There is no 60 day DL during the offseason. He counts.

 

So then is Scott Moore actually on there? Or is he not?

 

Under cubs.com transactions it says the Cubs purchased the contract of Scott Moore and added him to the 40-man roster so I assume he's on there and it's just a typo.

[USSoccer]

Do Arbitration eligible players count against the 40-man before they get their new contracts? Z, CPat, Hairston, and Macias being arby eligible fixes the lack of spots if they don't.

 

If Wood's on the 60-day DL I don't think he counts against the 40-man.

There is no 60 day DL during the offseason. He counts.

 

So then is Scott Moore actually on there? Or is he not?

 

Under cubs.com transactions it says the Cubs purchased the contract of Scott Moore and added him to the 40-man roster so I assume he's on there and it's just a typo.

 

Then the roster is at 41. That makes no sense.

[JeffH]

Moore is definitely on.

 

The 41st guy is either Wood on the 60-day DL or someone else that has been removed.

 

I'm hopeful that it's Macias. If it were just another minor league type, why wouldn't that have been announced with the others?

 

By the way, it's not strictly true that "There is no 60 day DL during the offseason.". Friday, the Reds removed a couple of guys from the 60-day DL. It is clear that there is some deadline by which the 60-day DL has to be cleared out.

 

This link:

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/teamTransactions?categoryId=71602

 

reports that Wood was removed from the 60-day DL on October 31st.

 

The bottom line is that nobody has any idea who the 41st guy is.