Bruce Levine Reports on Rafael Furcal

[fromthestretch]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

I'll take the first option everyday and twice on Sundays.

[snoodmonger]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

No brainer. Lugo/Giles. CPatt already showed Lugo/Furcal are comparable, or close to it. I challenge anyone to show me how Encarnacion has near the value of Giles.

[Garwilly]

It is friday.

 

So is Furcal signed yet?

 

Is the press conference on Comcast this afternoon?

[CuseCubFan69]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

I'll take the first option everyday and twice on Sundays.

 

What if Lugo cost the Cubs Pie?

[b_wiggy_66]

I take Furcal and Encarnacion. There younger, quicker, and they would be cheaper.

[David]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

Lugo and Giles, no question.

[David]

I take Furcal and Encarnacion. There younger, quicker, and they would be cheaper.

 

Not that I agree that this would be the case, but why should this matter?

 

Furcal will undoubtedly end up being more overpaid than Giles. Plus, Encarnacion is the exact type of player Hendry would overpay for. This question of value vs. what is paid is more important than the actual amount they receive.

[Magnetic Curses]

I take Furcal and Encarnacion. There younger, quicker, and they would be cheaper.

 

they're probably better in the clubhouse, too, as well as hitting in clutch situations. not to mention the fact that they make a lot of contact and are always seemimgly "making things happen on the basepaths". let's not forget their ability to lay down sacrifice bunts or hit the ball the other way when there's a runner at first.

 

anyone who takes this post seriously needs to see me in my office.

[fromthestretch]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

I'll take the first option everyday and twice on Sundays.

 

What if Lugo cost the Cubs Pie?

 

I wouldn't trade Pie for Lugo. That said, I don't think getting Furcal means having to settle for Encarnacion either.

 

I don't think the D-Rays would ask for Pie. Well, they might, but I think they'd ask for pitching first and possibly Cedeno. They already have several talented young outfielders...two that are under contract for quite some time.

[fromthestretch]

I take Furcal and Encarnacion. There younger, quicker, and they would be cheaper.

 

There are several better options for this team than Encarnacion.

[CuseCubFan69]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

I'll take the first option everyday and twice on Sundays.

 

What if Lugo cost the Cubs Pie?

 

I wouldn't trade Pie for Lugo. That said, I don't think getting Furcal means having to settle for Encarnacion either.

 

I don't think the D-Rays would ask for Pie. Well, they might, but I think they'd ask for pitching first and possibly Cedeno. They already have several talented young outfielders...two that are under contract for quite some time.

 

You're probably right but I'm sure if Lugo is desired by teams like Atlanta that the price is not going to be cheap.

[b_wiggy_66]

I dont necsessarily want Encarnacion (hes not my first option) I was just answering his question. I would rather have Reggie Sanders.

[BigbadB]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

I'll take the first option everyday and twice on Sundays.

 

What if Lugo cost the Cubs Pie?

 

I suppose that would depend on how well Tampa thinks Pie can pitch.

 

Why on Earth would Tampa want Pie when they already have Baldelli, Gomes, Crawford, Huff, Gathright, Young and likely more guys who can play the outfield?

 

Tampa would want pitching, and that is something we can certainly offer.

[CuseCubFan69]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

I'll take the first option everyday and twice on Sundays.

 

What if Lugo cost the Cubs Pie?

 

I suppose that would depend on how well Tampa thinks Pie can pitch.

 

Why on Earth would Tampa want Pie when they already have Baldelli, Gomes, Crawford, Huff, Gathright, Young and likely more guys who can play the outfield?

 

Tampa would want pitching, and that is something we can certainly offer.

 

I was just mentioning a top prospect and that Lugo isn't going to just cost money like Furcal is. I have no idea what TB may want but I'm sure with 2-4 teams asking about Lugo it would be pretty steep.

[fromthestretch]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

I'll take the first option everyday and twice on Sundays.

 

What if Lugo cost the Cubs Pie?

 

I wouldn't trade Pie for Lugo. That said, I don't think getting Furcal means having to settle for Encarnacion either.

 

I don't think the D-Rays would ask for Pie. Well, they might, but I think they'd ask for pitching first and possibly Cedeno. They already have several talented young outfielders...two that are under contract for quite some time.

 

You're probably right but I'm sure if Lugo is desired by teams like Atlanta that the price is not going to be cheap.

 

I agree with that.

 

What I don't agree with is that the Cubs necessarily need a SS (I'm not saying you are making that claim). I think Cedeno can handle the job. I think Walker should stay and leadoff. Let Murton bat second and Cedeno eighth. Take the money that the Cubs want to give to Furcal and throw it at an impact outfielder (RF or CF). Whichever outfield position you don't fill via free agent signing, trade to fill the other. If you have to deal Williams to get an OF, then look to get a #4 or #5 starter somewhere. One of the outfielders should be a left-handed bat.

 

Of course, that's all easier said than done.

[TheDude]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

It's not a fair question. You're listing a 2nd option at SS with a 1st option in RF, then a 1st option at SS with a 10th option in RF.

 

To make it an even statement, I go with Furcal and Floyd.

 

[edit - smelling pistakes]

[BigbadB]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

It's not a fair question. You're listing a 2nd option at SS with a 1st option in RF, then a 1st option at SS with a 10th option in RF.

 

To make it an even statement, I go with Furcal and Floyd.

 

[edit - smelling pistakes]

 

No, it is a fair question. Lugo/Giles will probably cost about the same amount as Furcal/Encarnacion. Furcal/Floyd would cost more.

[TheDude]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

It's not a fair question. You're listing a 2nd option at SS with a 1st option in RF, then a 1st option at SS with a 10th option in RF.

 

To make it an even statement, I go with Furcal and Floyd.

 

[edit - smelling pistakes]

 

No, it is a fair question. Lugo/Giles will probably cost about the same amount as Furcal/Encarnacion. Furcal/Floyd would cost more.

 

The money doesn't matter for the Cubs now regarding these two positions. These are the two prime offseason offensive upgrades. The Cubs have plenty of money.

 

[edit - Besides, Furcal + Floyd = 17 million, Giles + Lugo = 16 million]

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Furcal + Me = $10-$11 mil.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

I'll take the first option everyday and twice on Sundays.

 

What if Lugo cost the Cubs Pie?

 

Then the Devil Rays will keep BJ Upton in the minors for another year because no one would trade for Lugo at that cost.

[RockTheIvy]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

It's not a fair question. You're listing a 2nd option at SS with a 1st option in RF, then a 1st option at SS with a 10th option in RF.

 

To make it an even statement, I go with Furcal and Floyd.

 

[edit - smelling pistakes]

 

No, it is a fair question. Lugo/Giles will probably cost about the same amount as Furcal/Encarnacion. Furcal/Floyd would cost more.

 

Except that with our GM, I think a better question might be Lugo/Encarnacion or Furcal/Encarnacion. I really doubt Hendry will go that hard after Giles.

[CuseCubFan69]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

I'll take the first option everyday and twice on Sundays.

 

What if Lugo cost the Cubs Pie?

 

Then the Devil Rays will keep BJ Upton in the minors for another year because no one would trade for Lugo at that cost.

 

He will cost some team some talent Raisin, maybe not Pie talent but some pretty decent talent.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

If you could have Lugo and Brian Giles or Furcal and Encarnacion, which would you rather have?

 

I'll take the first option everyday and twice on Sundays.

 

What if Lugo cost the Cubs Pie?

 

Then the Devil Rays will keep BJ Upton in the minors for another year because no one would trade for Lugo at that cost.

 

He will cost some team some talent Raisin, maybe not Pie talent but some pretty decent talent.

 

Agreed, but the DRays aren't getting a top-25 MLB prospect for him. They're more likely to get something like Hill and Nolasco for him.

[TheDude]

I think the Rays are better off trading Upton for a top-shelf pitching prospect of equal value and keeping Lugo as a respectable SS.

 

The Rays have lots of young hitting and need more pitching.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think the Rays would be better off trading us Delmon Young. :P