Welcome to Hell: 2005 World Series (Sox Win 4-0)

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'd rather have Jenks than Podsednik.

 

I would disagree.

 

lead off is too much of a need for us

[stitchface]

what percentage of the crowd has seen more games at wrigley than the cell? I'm going to go with 75 percent. 25 percent have never been to the cell before this postseason.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Great play. Sammy never caught any balls that way, either !!

[Banedon]

I'd rather have Eckstein than Podsednik.

[J.R.]

"Pods" is nothing special.

[stitchface]

I'd rather have Jenks than Podsednik.

 

I would disagree.

 

lead off is too much of a need for us

 

Podsednik's .351 is nothing special.

[stitchface]

I'd rather have Eckstein than Podsednik.

 

 

ugh, why?

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'd rather have Jenks than Podsednik.

 

I would disagree.

 

lead off is too much of a need for us

 

Podsednik's .351 is nothing special.

 

better then what we had

[Chris]

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[RockTheIvy]

I'd rather have Eckstein than Podsednik.

 

 

ugh, why?

 

Because he is the "Ecks" factor, duh.

[stitchface]

so is jenks and he's harder to find (for the cubs anyway). Hairston is as good as Podsednik.

[Banedon]

I'd rather have Eckstein than Podsednik.

 

 

ugh, why?

 

No stats to back it up, but he seems to get things going for the Cards quite a bit...

[RockTheIvy]

I'd rather have Eckstein than Podsednik.

 

 

ugh, why?

 

No stats to back it up, but he seems to get things going for the Cards quite a bit...

 

He gives the Cards some pretty good OBP, way better than what the Cubs have in their leadoff spot...but his defense leaves some things to be desired, and he has a complete noodle arm.

[minnesotacubsfan]

so is jenks and he's harder to find (for the cubs anyway). Hairston is as good as Podsednik.

 

I've never seen in Hairstons stats 60 steals

 

I dont know. wish the Cubbies were in the Series.......

[UK1679666180]

Garner is a horrible in-game manager and it showed.

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE NINTH INNING

 

Lane struck out swinging

Ausmus grounded out to short, 6-3

A Everett struck out swinging

 

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base

 

           1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R  H E
Houston    0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0    3  7 1 
white sox  1 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 x    5 10 0 

 

W: Contreras

S: Jenks

L: Rodriguez

 

T: 3:13

A: 41,206

 

Home runs: white sox: Dye (1), Crede (1), Houston: Lamb (1)

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR HB PIT
Clemens    2.0  4  3  3  0  1  1  0  54
Rodriguez  3.3  4  1  1  5  1  1  0  68 
Qualls     1.7  0  0  0  0  2  0  0  24
Springer   1.0  2  1  1  0  0  0  0  23  

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR HB PIT
Contreras  7.0  6  3  3  0  2  1  2  82 
Cotts      0.7  1  0  0  0  2  0  0  16 
Jenks      1.3  0  0  0  0  3  0  0  14 

[RockTheIvy]

so is jenks and he's harder to find (for the cubs anyway). Hairston is as good as Podsednik.

 

I've never seen in Hairstons stats 60 steals

 

I dont know. wish the Cubbies were in the Series.......

:cry: :cry: we were so close! :cry: :cry:

[stitchface]

so is jenks and he's harder to find (for the cubs anyway). Hairston is as good as Podsednik.

 

I've never seen in Hairstons stats 60 steals

 

I dont know. wish the Cubbies were in the Series.......

 

or 23 CS. His baserunning hurts the team.

[RockTheIvy]

so is jenks and he's harder to find (for the cubs anyway). Hairston is as good as Podsednik.

 

I've never seen in Hairstons stats 60 steals

 

I dont know. wish the Cubbies were in the Series.......

 

or 23 CS. His baserunning hurts the team.

 

But do you think he would have hurt the cubs if he was on the team this past year? I mean you know who was batting in our top two spots, and they couldn't even see pods OBP.

[Outshined_One]

Is it me or are good managers non-existent in the NL Central?

[minnesotacubsfan]

so is jenks and he's harder to find (for the cubs anyway). Hairston is as good as Podsednik.

 

I've never seen in Hairstons stats 60 steals

 

I dont know. wish the Cubbies were in the Series.......

 

or 23 CS. His baserunning hurts the team.

 

and his 60 steals help the team

 

 

thats still 37+, which is well above Hairston........

[RockTheIvy]

so is jenks and he's harder to find (for the cubs anyway). Hairston is as good as Podsednik.

 

I've never seen in Hairstons stats 60 steals

 

I dont know. wish the Cubbies were in the Series.......

 

or 23 CS. His baserunning hurts the team.

 

and his 60 steals help the team

 

 

thats still 37+, which is well above Hairston........

 

Dr. PouDRE has a point. If a player steals bases at or above a 75% clip, they are benefitting their team. If not, they are hurting their team. Yet I agree with you, Posednik couldn't have hurt the Cubs if he tried. We were embarrassing at getting on base this year.

[Outshined_One]

But do you think he would have hurt the cubs if he was on the team this past year? I mean you know who was batting in our top two spots, and they couldn't even see pods OBP.

 

That falls more on the stupidity of the manager than on the players themselves. Come on, don't make it sound like Patterson, Neifi, and Macias had good or even passable OBPs. Hairston was up and down.

 

But I'd take some one like Murton, Cedeno, or Walker over Podsednik offensively without much of a second thought.

[Careless]

so is jenks and he's harder to find (for the cubs anyway). Hairston is as good as Podsednik.

 

I've never seen in Hairstons stats 60 steals

 

I dont know. wish the Cubbies were in the Series.......

 

or 23 CS. His baserunning hurts the team.

 

and his 60 steals help the team

 

 

thats still 37+, which is well above Hairston........

The point is that the 23 hurt the team more than the 60 help. The white sox would score more runs if he never tried to steal at all

[UK1679666180]

Is it me or are good managers non-existent in the NL Central?

 

I have no idea why garner became conservative at the end. Lefty like Cotts vs. Lamb is a horrible matchup to try and sneak a run. Followed by a late switch of taking Berkman out for Burke at 1B w/2 outs.

 

I would've PH'ed Burke for Lamb, WS bring in Politte and squeeze with Burke and Tavares and roll the dice. Bruke has very good bat control, Politte is not the most mobile of pitchers and Tavares is the fastest runner in MLB.