All Ex-Cub team

[Quakers]

Make of this what you will, but it is important to remember that sometimes the best trade is the one that is not made.

 

Position - Name Avg/HR/Runs/RBIs

C - Damian Miller .273/9/50/43

1B - Rafeal Palmeiro .266/18/47/60

2B - Mark Grudzielanek .294/8/64/59

3B - Bill Mueller .295/10/62/69

SS - Alex Gonzalez .264/5/45/45

OF - Luis Gonzalez .271/24/79/90

OF - Gary Matthews .255/17/55/72

OF - Matt Stairs .275/13/55/66

 

Position - Name W/L/K's/ERA

SP - Dontrelle Willis 22/10/170/2.63

SP - Jon Garland 18/10/115/3.50

SP - Jon Lieber 17/13/149/4.20

SP - Matt Clement 13/6/146/4.57

SP - Jamie Moyer 13/7/102/4.28

 

Position - Name W/L/S/ERA

RP - Todd Jones 1/5/40/2.10

RP - Kyle Farnsworth 1/1/16/2.19

 

This years team is loaded with position players who are past their prime, but the pitching is not bad (IMO).

[Tim]

I was thinking the other day about how few type A compensation picks the Cubs have gotten over the past 10 years when compared to other teams. The answer why is pretty obvious when looking at this list. The Cubs simply haven't had many good FA's that have left the team. If this list distresses anyone, take a moment and put together an ex-A's team and see how it looks. I really wish that there were more good players to be shown here.

[biittner77]

Make of this what you will, but it is important to remember that sometimes the best trade is the one that is not made.

 

Position - Name Avg/HR/Runs/RBIs

C - Damian Miller .273/9/50/43

1B - Rafeal Palmeiro .266/18/47/60

2B - Mark Grudzielanek .294/8/64/59

3B - Bill Mueller .295/10/62/69

SS - Alex Gonzalez .264/5/45/45

OF - Luis Gonzalez .271/24/79/90

OF - Gary Matthews .255/17/55/72

OF - Matt Stairs .275/13/55/66

 

Position - Name W/L/K's/ERA

SP - Dontrelle Willis 22/10/170/2.63

SP - Jon Garland 18/10/115/3.50

SP - Jon Lieber 17/13/149/4.20

SP - Matt Clement 13/6/146/4.57

SP - Jamie Moyer 13/7/102/4.28

 

Position - Name W/L/S/ERA

RP - Todd Jones 1/5/40/2.10

RP - Kyle Farnsworth 1/1/16/2.19

 

This years team is loaded with position players who are past their prime, but the pitching is not bad (IMO).

 

You'd have a hrad time making a lineup with all those LH hitters

 

2b Grudz R

3rd Mueller S

LF Gonzalez L

RF Stairs L

1st Palmeiro L

SS Gonzalez R

CF Matthews S

C Miller R

[BigbadB]

Make of this what you will, but it is important to remember that sometimes the best trade is the one that is not made.

 

Position - Name Avg/HR/Runs/RBIs

C - Damian Miller .273/9/50/43

1B - Rafeal Palmeiro .266/18/47/60

2B - Mark Grudzielanek .294/8/64/59

3B - Bill Mueller .295/10/62/69

SS - Alex Gonzalez .264/5/45/45

OF - Luis Gonzalez .271/24/79/90

OF - Gary Matthews .255/17/55/72

OF - Matt Stairs .275/13/55/66

 

Position - Name W/L/K's/ERA

SP - Dontrelle Willis 22/10/170/2.63

SP - Jon Garland 18/10/115/3.50

SP - Jon Lieber 17/13/149/4.20

SP - Matt Clement 13/6/146/4.57

SP - Jamie Moyer 13/7/102/4.28

 

Position - Name W/L/S/ERA

RP - Todd Jones 1/5/40/2.10

RP - Kyle Farnsworth 1/1/16/2.19

 

This years team is loaded with position players who are past their prime, but the pitching is not bad (IMO).

 

You'd have a hrad time making a lineup with all those LH hitters

 

2b Grudz R

3rd Mueller S

LF Gonzalez L

RF Stairs L

1st Palmeiro L

SS Gonzalez R

CF Matthews S

C Miller R

 

That team is horrible. Good thing we made some trades.

[nilodnayr]

I was thinking the other day about how few type A compensation picks the Cubs have gotten over the past 10 years when compared to other teams. The answer why is pretty obvious when looking at this list. The Cubs simply haven't had many good FA's that have left the team. If this list distresses anyone, take a moment and put together an ex-A's team and see how it looks. I really wish that there were more good players to be shown here.

Better yet, some one put together an ex-Indians team.

[Tim]

I was thinking the other day about how few type A compensation picks the Cubs have gotten over the past 10 years when compared to other teams. The answer why is pretty obvious when looking at this list. The Cubs simply haven't had many good FA's that have left the team. If this list distresses anyone, take a moment and put together an ex-A's team and see how it looks. I really wish that there were more good players to be shown here.

Better yet, some one put together an ex-Indians team.

The ex-Indians would beat:

 

C - Hernandez

1B - Giambi

2B -

3B -

SS - Tejada

OF - Damon

OF - Dye

OF -

 

SP - Hudson

SP - Mulder

SP -

SP -

SP -

RP - Foulke

RP -

 

I'm too busy to fill in the blanks, but that's a serious start to a great MLB team.

[Quakers]

Admittedly the line-up is terrible, but I would like to have Willis and Garland back.

[nilodnayr]

I was thinking the other day about how few type A compensation picks the Cubs have gotten over the past 10 years when compared to other teams. The answer why is pretty obvious when looking at this list. The Cubs simply haven't had many good FA's that have left the team. If this list distresses anyone, take a moment and put together an ex-A's team and see how it looks. I really wish that there were more good players to be shown here.

Better yet, some one put together an ex-Indians team.

The ex-Indians would beat:

 

C - Hernandez

1B - Giambi

2B -

3B -

SS - Tejada

OF - Damon

OF - Dye

OF -

 

SP - Hudson

SP - Mulder

SP -

SP -

SP -

RP - Foulke

RP -

 

I'm too busy to fill in the blanks, but that's a serious start to a great MLB team.

Ugh, I wanted some one else to do the heavy lifting. I'll start it out for the indians.

 

 

C -

1B - Sexson

2B - Kent

3B - Branyon

SS - Vizquel

OF - Giles

OF - Manny

OF - Milton Bradley

DH - Casey, Thome

 

SP - Colon

SP - Jaret Wright

SP -

SP -

SP -

RP - Mesa

RP - Kline

RP - Taverez

RP - Mercker

RP - Baez

[Laura]

So we should root for the Cubs to let more good free agents go?

 

Who would be Type A this year?

 

Todd Walker?

 

Would Neifi be Type A? :o

[nilodnayr]

So we should root for the Cubs to let more good free agents go?

 

Who would be Type A this year?

 

Todd Walker?

 

Would Neifi be Type A? :o

 

Its done by the Elias Sports Bureau and is based on the past two years of production so neifis horrible year last year will count against him. My guess is Walker is the only one and hes much more valuable than any compensation picks. But on the other hand that means that Burnitz actually might net us something decent. He had a coors aided monster year in 2004. With the poor FA class, heck he could be a type A.

[Tim]

I was thinking the other day about how few type A compensation picks the Cubs have gotten over the past 10 years when compared to other teams. The answer why is pretty obvious when looking at this list. The Cubs simply haven't had many good FA's that have left the team. If this list distresses anyone, take a moment and put together an ex-A's team and see how it looks. I really wish that there were more good players to be shown here.

Better yet, some one put together an ex-Indians team.

The ex-Indians would beat:

 

C - Hernandez

1B - Giambi

2B -

3B -

SS - Tejada

OF - Damon

OF - Dye

OF -

 

SP - Hudson

SP - Mulder

SP -

SP -

SP -

RP - Foulke

RP -

 

I'm too busy to fill in the blanks, but that's a serious start to a great MLB team.

Ugh, I wanted some one else to do the heavy lifting. I'll start it out for the indians.

 

 

C -

1B - Sexson

2B - Kent

3B - Branyon

SS - Vizquel

OF - Giles

OF - Manny

OF - Milton Bradley

DH - Casey, Thome

 

SP - Colon

SP - Jaret Wright

SP -

SP -

SP -

RP - Mesa

RP - Kline

RP - Taverez

RP - Mercker

RP - Baez

Yikes. I forgot about half those guys having been Indians. I concede.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

So we should root for the Cubs to let more good free agents go?

 

Who would be Type A this year?

 

Todd Walker?

 

Would Neifi be Type A? :o

 

Its done by the Elias Sports Bureau and is based on the past two years of production so neifis horrible year last year will count against him. My guess is Walker is the only one and hes much more valuable than any compensation picks. But on the other hand that means that Burnitz actually might net us something decent. He had a coors aided monster year in 2004. With the poor FA class, heck he could be a type A.

 

I wouldn't want to take the risk in offering Burnitz arbitration.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Admittedly the line-up is terrible, but I would like to have Willis and Garland back.

Might want to have had Garland back for this year but I wouldn't want to have dealt with his development as a pitcher. White Sox fans have been calling for his head the last several years before this one.

[RockTheIvy]

Not that I love him, but Alou would have been nice this past year in the OF for us. Of course, Arte Lange would have looked pretty nice out there, so I suppose that's not saying much.

[goonys evil twin]

That list tells me two things:

 

1) The Cubs have been terrible developing talent the past 15 years.

2) When they bring guys in from other organizations, it's usually toward the end of their career, which means guys retire shortly after leaving the Cubs, and don't have much to offer others teams.

 

 

 

 

This organization is so pathetic. Ten years into his term and MacPhail's biggest accomplishment is making the team less bad on a consistent basis.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

This organization is so pathetic. Ten years into his term and MacPhail's biggest accomplishment is making the team less bad on a consistent basis.

 

Most Recent World Series Championship:

 

Chicago Cubs--1908

Chicago White Sox--1917

Cleveland Indians--1948

New York/San Francisco Giants--1954

 

Every other one of the original 16 teams (from the first series in 1903) has won the title at least once in the past 26 years (next is Pittsburgh, 1979). Even worse is looking at pennants:

 

Chicago Cubs--1945

Chicago White Sox--1959

 

That's it. Every other one of the original 16 has won the pennant at least once in the past 26 years. The Indians and Giants of course, though they didn't win the title, have been pennant winners very recently.

 

Yup--this is a pathetic, hapless, limp-wristed organization. Just inexcusable.

[Jazz]

I think alot of this has to do with a couple things. One has been the management at the Pro level. Whens the last time a coach led this team to more than 1 playoff birth? Well you have to look back ALL the way to the last NL Pennant winning coach, Charlie Grimm (1933-1938, 1945-1949, 3 NL Pennants)

 

And not just the manager, the whole coaching staff in general. I am very displeased with everyone on the staff and blame alot of 2005's mishaps on them. How many prospects have gone to ruins in recent years, or could not do anything for the cubs, either to being groomed, rushed, or just misused?

 

I think if the cubs expect to have a strong youthful team relying on a core of certain players, then they need to be able to acquire or develop both positional, and pitching prospects at a much higher level. Even at 100 million dollars, you cannot sign star power players, or afford them if you have a team filled with 5 mil vets.

[stitchface]

That list tells me two things:

 

1) The Cubs have been terrible developing talent the past 15 years.

2) When they bring guys in from other organizations, it's usually toward the end of their career, which means guys retire shortly after leaving the Cubs, and don't have much to offer others teams.

 

 

 

 

This organization is so pathetic. Ten years into his term and MacPhail's biggest accomplishment is making the team less bad on a consistent basis.

 

And not much reason to believe things are going to change.