last night....

[Magnetic Curses]

i wouldn't call it a microcosm of the season at all, but it was very indicative of just what our problems have been in the pitching department this season.

 

i'm not sure if anyone noticed this or not, but brewer hitters went up there with the bats on their shoulders against our relievers. iirc, each reliever in the ballgame, save dempster and ohman, walked the first hitter they faced. and even dempster went 3-2 on his first hitter: miller, who didn't swing at a pitch until the count was full.

 

nelson cruz, for crying out loud, the first hitter that van buren saw, looked as if he had absolutely NO INTENTION of swinging at anything JVB could throw up there, ball or strike. this philosophy is true team-oriented philosophy, at least as close as you can get to team-ball in baseball. hitters that go up there and walk put pressure on the pitcher to plate pitches, which was extremely important for novoa against hall.

 

teams DO this against us, and we never do it against anyone, which is why we aren't in any kind of playoff hunt.

 

dusty needs to get his hands on the book on the cubs, because he obviously hasn't read it himself.

[JC]

There was a closed door meeting before the game last night. Think of how bad the loss would have been without Dusty's motivational tactics.

[Magnetic Curses]

There was a closed door meeting before the game last night. Think of how bad the loss would have been without Dusty's motivational tactics.

 

i wonder what he said?

 

i just can't believe that he hasn't been fired yet.

[dalgreen]

i wouldn't call it a microcosm of the season at all, but it was very indicative of just what our problems have been in the pitching department this season.

 

i'm not sure if anyone noticed this or not, but brewer hitters went up there with the bats on their shoulders against our relievers. iirc, each reliever in the ballgame, save dempster and ohman, walked the first hitter they faced. and even dempster went 3-2 on his first hitter: miller, who didn't swing at a pitch until the count was full.

 

nelson cruz, for crying out loud, the first hitter that van buren saw, looked as if he had absolutely NO INTENTION of swinging at anything JVB could throw up there, ball or strike. this philosophy is true team-oriented philosophy, at least as close as you can get to team-ball in baseball. hitters that go up there and walk put pressure on the pitcher to plate pitches, which was extremely important for novoa against hall.

 

teams DO this against us, and we never do it against anyone, which is why we aren't in any kind of playoff hunt.

 

dusty needs to get his hands on the book on the cubs, because he obviously hasn't read it himself.

 

Anytime you have a staff, save Maddux, who generally pitches away from contact makes the opposing scouts' jobs easy. I have ticked a few people off with my criticism of our scouts and minor league instructors. Then again if you constantly sign and trade for guys who have aggressive approaches at the plate what can you expect?

[JC]

 

Anytime you have a staff, save Maddux, who generally pitches away from contact makes the opposing scouts' jobs easy. I have ticked a few people off with my criticism of our scouts and minor league instructors. Then again if you constantly sign and trade for guys who have aggressive approaches at the plate what can you expect?

 

Maybe its not the case, but, for the most part, I'd expect the majority of scouts and instructors to follow the philosophy of the organization's general manager. From an outsider's perspective, baseball organizations appear to be regemented top-down models. Maybe that is an obvious point, I don't know.

[Magnetic Curses]

i wouldn't call it a microcosm of the season at all, but it was very indicative of just what our problems have been in the pitching department this season.

 

i'm not sure if anyone noticed this or not, but brewer hitters went up there with the bats on their shoulders against our relievers. iirc, each reliever in the ballgame, save dempster and ohman, walked the first hitter they faced. and even dempster went 3-2 on his first hitter: miller, who didn't swing at a pitch until the count was full.

 

nelson cruz, for crying out loud, the first hitter that van buren saw, looked as if he had absolutely NO INTENTION of swinging at anything JVB could throw up there, ball or strike. this philosophy is true team-oriented philosophy, at least as close as you can get to team-ball in baseball. hitters that go up there and walk put pressure on the pitcher to plate pitches, which was extremely important for novoa against hall.

 

teams DO this against us, and we never do it against anyone, which is why we aren't in any kind of playoff hunt.

 

dusty needs to get his hands on the book on the cubs, because he obviously hasn't read it himself.

 

Anytime you have a staff, save Maddux, who generally pitches away from contact makes the opposing scouts' jobs easy. I have ticked a few people off with my criticism of our scouts and minor league instructors. Then again if you constantly sign and trade for guys who have aggressive approaches at the plate what can you expect?

 

i'm curious to know if hendry is aware that:

 

1. his team throws the most pitches per game.

 

2. sees the least pitches per game.

 

or if he has connected the dots yet, and "why not?" if he hasn't.

 

the cubs woes are right in front of you jim, and jacque jones is not going to be your savior next season.

[dalgreen]

 

Anytime you have a staff, save Maddux, who generally pitches away from contact makes the opposing scouts' jobs easy. I have ticked a few people off with my criticism of our scouts and minor league instructors. Then again if you constantly sign and trade for guys who have aggressive approaches at the plate what can you expect?

 

Maybe its not the case, but, for the most part, I'd expect the majority of scouts and instructors to follow the philosophy of the organization's general manager. From an outsider's perspective, baseball organizations appear to be regemented top-down models. Maybe that is an obvious point, I don't know.

 

By the way, I agree with you. I just made a semi-promise to myself in July that I'd stop griping about Hendry since at the time I seemed to be one of the few people taking him to task. So, after spending time criticizing Baker and Hendry, I've moved on to the scouting and instructor departments. But some of the scouting "gurus", namely Hughes, were around before Hendry was the GM.

[dalgreen]

i wouldn't call it a microcosm of the season at all, but it was very indicative of just what our problems have been in the pitching department this season.

 

i'm not sure if anyone noticed this or not, but brewer hitters went up there with the bats on their shoulders against our relievers. iirc, each reliever in the ballgame, save dempster and ohman, walked the first hitter they faced. and even dempster went 3-2 on his first hitter: miller, who didn't swing at a pitch until the count was full.

 

nelson cruz, for crying out loud, the first hitter that van buren saw, looked as if he had absolutely NO INTENTION of swinging at anything JVB could throw up there, ball or strike. this philosophy is true team-oriented philosophy, at least as close as you can get to team-ball in baseball. hitters that go up there and walk put pressure on the pitcher to plate pitches, which was extremely important for novoa against hall.

 

teams DO this against us, and we never do it against anyone, which is why we aren't in any kind of playoff hunt.

 

dusty needs to get his hands on the book on the cubs, because he obviously hasn't read it himself.

 

Anytime you have a staff, save Maddux, who generally pitches away from contact makes the opposing scouts' jobs easy. I have ticked a few people off with my criticism of our scouts and minor league instructors. Then again if you constantly sign and trade for guys who have aggressive approaches at the plate what can you expect?

 

i'm curious to know if hendry is aware that:

 

1. his team throws the most pitches per game.

 

2. sees the least pitches per game.

 

or if he has connected the dots yet, and "why not?" if he hasn't.

 

the cubs woes are right in front of you jim, and jacque jones is not going to be your savior next season.

 

Wasn't that the case last year? If so, I think you have your answer.

[UK1679666180]

But some of the scouting "gurus", namely Hughes, were around before Hendry was the GM.

 

Hughes was hired by Hendry after Hendry became GM. Hughes did play a huge role in Hendry's career progression, dating back to the Marlins.

[dalgreen]

But some of the scouting "gurus", namely Hughes, were around before Hendry was the GM.

 

Hughes was hired by Hendry after Hendry became GM. Hughes did play a huge role in Hendry's career progression, dating back to the Marlins.

 

Thanks. I stand corrected. I thought Hughes was hired by MacPhail while MacPhail was GM. Thanks for the knowledge.

[JC]

Hughes scares the bejesus out of me.

[dalgreen]

Hughes scares the bejesus out of me.

 

Me too.

[brinoch]

Hughes scares the bejesus out of me.

 

Me too.

 

Me three.

[thedaymen]

i wouldn't call it a microcosm of the season at all, but it was very indicative of just what our problems have been in the pitching department this season.

 

i'm not sure if anyone noticed this or not, but brewer hitters went up there with the bats on their shoulders against our relievers. iirc, each reliever in the ballgame, save dempster and ohman, walked the first hitter they faced. and even dempster went 3-2 on his first hitter: miller, who didn't swing at a pitch until the count was full.

 

nelson cruz, for crying out loud, the first hitter that van buren saw, looked as if he had absolutely NO INTENTION of swinging at anything JVB could throw up there, ball or strike. this philosophy is true team-oriented philosophy, at least as close as you can get to team-ball in baseball. hitters that go up there and walk put pressure on the pitcher to plate pitches, which was extremely important for novoa against hall.

 

teams DO this against us, and we never do it against anyone, which is why we aren't in any kind of playoff hunt.

 

dusty needs to get his hands on the book on the cubs, because he obviously hasn't read it himself.

 

Thats weird, I was thinking "Great! With all these guys clogging up the bases, the Brewers are never going to score!"

[Bull]

Hughes scares the bejesus out of me.

 

Me too.

 

Me three.

 

Way back in January there was a baseball america article interviewing Hughes and Eddie Bane, juxtaposing them to two stat guys. Required reading for every Cubs fan looking to understand this organization IMHO.

 

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