Kyle Schwarber

[Irrelevant Dude]

I continue to be somewhat amazed, by Kyle Schwarber's stat line.

As of 8/21/2023, he has a .182 Batting Average over 450 At Bats, with 32 Home Runs, .429 SLG, and .327 OBP

I keep expecting his Batting Average to normalize around or slightly above the .200 mark, but that isn't happening and seems to be holding fairly steady in the .180-.190 range.  He obviously has great slugging and on base skills, but he needs every bit of that to offset his pure hitting deficiencies.  Has there ever been another player like this who has remained a consistent everyday player despite having a sub-200 average over an entire season?

[Derwood]

He is out-Dunn'ing Adam Dunn as a three true outcome hitter.

Leads league in K's

Second in league in BB's

Fourth in HR

[Tim]

58 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

I continue to be somewhat amazed, by Kyle Schwarber's stat line.

As of 8/21/2023, he has a .182 Batting Average over 450 At Bats, with 32 Home Runs, .429 SLG, and .327 OBP

I keep expecting his Batting Average to normalize around or slightly above the .200 mark, but that isn't happening and seems to be holding fairly steady in the .180-.190 range.  He obviously has great slugging and on base skills, but he needs every bit of that to offset his pure hitting deficiencies.  Has there ever been another player like this who has remained a consistent everyday player despite having a sub-200 average over an entire season?

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/joey-gallo/14128/stats?position=OF

[UMFan83]

He's basically Rob Deer with a little more walking and a little more power

 

Rob Deer first 9 seasons: .222/.326/.450/.776, 112 OPS+, 1210 K, 205 HR, 536 RBI, 12.0 bWAR

Schwarber career (9 seasons): .226/.337/.486/.823, 119 OPS+, 1079 K, 231 HR, 522 RBI, 10.8 bWAR

Schwarbs has 118 less PA than Deer did in his first 9 seasons.

[Irrelevant Dude]

4 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

He's basically Rob Deer with a little more walking and a little more power

That is a good comp in terms of the average numbers over several seasons, but Schwarber seems to be trending toward an even more extreme version of lower average, higher on base and slug. How long will that be sustainable?

[Irrelevant Dude]

13 minutes ago, Tim said:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/joey-gallo/14128/stats?position=OF

I guess I never paid much attention to Gallo, but 2021-2022 Gallo doesn't seem to far off.

[soccer10k]

42 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

I guess I never paid much attention to Gallo, but 2021-2022 Gallo doesn't seem to far off.

He’s basically right on line with Gallo this year. 182/327/429 for Schwarber and 180/304/447 for Gallo, though Gallo does strike out much more frequently.

[jb10194]

I still struggle to grasp that Schwarber hit .342 in college and .334 in the minors, across 1500 at bats across both so not a small sample size, and ended up being the player he is. I'm sure that's a lot more common though than I'm thinking. Byron Buxton comes to mind.

Edited August 21, 2023 by jb10194

[sneakypower]

really rooting for him to set a new record for most HR in a negative-fWAR season, currently held by Dave Kingman for his 1982 campaign of 37 HR and -0.5 fWAR, on the strength of a .204/.285/.432 slash and -24 defense

for Schwarber, ZiPS-update pegs him (phrasing) for 42 HR and 0.4 WAR, so hoping he muffs a few extra flyballs or slows his BBs pace accordingly to achieve this ignominious distinction

dishonorable mention:

1983 Tony Armas (36 HR, -0.2 fWAR)
2016 Matt Kemp (35 HR, -0.6 fWAR)
1986 Dave Kingman (35 HR, -0.8 fWAR)
1999 Dante Bichette (34 HR, -2.1 fWAR)

Edited August 22, 2023 by sneakypower