Week 5: Bears at Raiders in London (noon on Fox)

[minnesotacubsfan]

All the radio guys are talking about is the Bears late arrival and them looking tired. This seems like a pretty obvious thing

 

Again there is enough evidence of teams coming over exactly the same time as the bears and being successful. If the bears look tired and slow that’s on their game prep and coaching staff.

 

those teams didn't play tired? and did they play other teams arriving at the same time?

[minnesotacubsfan]

nagy getting schooled by CHUCKY

[minnesotacubsfan]

nagy getting schooled by CHUCKY

[d_money]

Holy beat down

[Old Style]

Shut the horsefeathers up already about when they arrived. We get your point.

[minnesotacubsfan]

defense is exhausted. in. the. first. half.

[UMFan83]

All the radio guys are talking about is the Bears late arrival and them looking tired. This seems like a pretty obvious thing

 

Again there is enough evidence of teams coming over exactly the same time as the bears and being successful. If the bears look tired and slow that’s on their game prep and coaching staff.

 

those teams didn't play tired? and did they play other teams arriving at the same time?

 

Don’t know. Point is that teams do it all the time and win. Nagy did it before and won. Do you think they were just like “oh crap I forgot to think about jet lag!” when they got here? This is the NFL and coaches go to ridiculous lengths to gain even the tiniest of edges. I highly highly doubt they just forgot to consider jet lag when planning for this year.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Shut the horsefeathers up already about when they arrived. We get your point.

 

but you all keep saying it doesnt matter.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

Again there is enough evidence of teams coming over exactly the same time as the bears and being successful. If the bears look tired and slow that’s on their game prep and coaching staff.

 

those teams didn't play tired? and did they play other teams arriving at the same time?

 

Don’t know. Point is that teams do it all the time and win. Nagy did it before and won. Do you think they were just like “oh crap I forgot to think about jet lag!” when they got here? This is the NFL and coaches go to ridiculous lengths to gain even the tiniest of edges. I highly highly doubt they just forgot to consider jet lag when planning for this year.

 

sure, I'm sure he considered it, but CHUCKY was smarter about it. I thought nagy was smart. guess not.

[Old Style]

Shut the horsefeathers up already about when they arrived. We get your point.

 

but you all keep saying it doesnt matter.

Where did I say that?

[ChiCubsFan]

And teams did this when the London games were day games

[UMFan83]

 

those teams didn't play tired? and did they play other teams arriving at the same time?

 

Don’t know. Point is that teams do it all the time and win. Nagy did it before and won. Do you think they were just like “oh crap I forgot to think about jet lag!” when they got here? This is the NFL and coaches go to ridiculous lengths to gain even the tiniest of edges. I highly highly doubt they just forgot to consider jet lag when planning for this year.

 

sure, I'm sure he considered it, but CHUCKY was smarter about it. I thought nagy was smart. guess not.

 

The raiders are two additional time zones away so I’m sure that factored into it for him. If you want to rip on Nagy for being out coached, that’s fair.

[minnesotacubsfan]

ok, if the time difference isnt the biggest difference in this game, are the raiders truly this better then us?

[UK]

This offensive line has been trash all year.

[UMFan83]

Cohen can’t run out of bounds there, come on

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

Don’t know. Point is that teams do it all the time and win. Nagy did it before and won. Do you think they were just like “oh crap I forgot to think about jet lag!” when they got here? This is the NFL and coaches go to ridiculous lengths to gain even the tiniest of edges. I highly highly doubt they just forgot to consider jet lag when planning for this year.

 

sure, I'm sure he considered it, but CHUCKY was smarter about it. I thought nagy was smart. guess not.

 

The raiders are two additional time zones away so I’m sure that factored into it for him. If you want to rip on Nagy for being out coached, that’s fair.

 

he's been outcoached since last sunday

[PackLandVA]

ok, if the time difference isnt the biggest difference in this game, are the raiders truly this better then us?

 

Football (and most sports) doesn't work that way.

[UMFan83]

ok, if the time difference isnt the biggest difference in this game, are the raiders truly this better then us?

 

I don’t think they are better than us but I think they are better than people give them credit. And their quick pass offensive style is not ideal for Bears. Plus Daniel has been terrible and the offensive line continues to play poorly like they have all season

[minnesotacubsfan]

ok, if the time difference isnt the biggest difference in this game, are the raiders truly this better then us?

 

Football (and most sports) doesn't work that way.

 

 

what way

[Wilson A2000]

ok, if the time difference isnt the biggest difference in this game, are the raiders truly this better then us?

 

Sometimes you just have clunkers of a game. Defense had been great and they are having a bad game. The offense has looked pretty bad since middle of last year. When you have a below-average offensive line, one good WR, no good TEs, and no good QBs on your roster, you get games like this.

 

Put Bray in.

[PackLandVA]

ok, if the time difference isnt the biggest difference in this game, are the raiders truly this better then us?

 

Football (and most sports) doesn't work that way.

 

 

what way

 

That dismissing the "time change" issue and the fact fact that the Raiders are up 17-0 means they're "better" than the Bears. The better team doesn't always play better/win.

[minnesotacubsfan]

ok, if the time difference isnt the biggest difference in this game, are the raiders truly this better then us?

 

I don’t think they are better than us but I think they are better than people give them credit. And their quick pass offensive style is not ideal for Bears. Plus Daniel has been terrible and the offensive line continues to play poorly like they have all season

 

ideal match up or not, I dont see the quick pass beating the bears, I see their oline running over the entire defense. in fact, if the quick pass was the issue, we probably wouldn't be losing 17-0. we are exhausted. thats why we are losing.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

Football (and most sports) doesn't work that way.

 

 

what way

 

That dismissing the "time change" issue and the fact fact that the Raiders are up 17-0 means they're "better" than the Bears. The better team doesn't always play better/win.

 

I'm not dismissing any time change, I'm saying the way CHUCKY dealt with it is kicking Nagys ass and Nagy is the reason we are losing today.

[PackLandVA]

 

 

what way

 

That dismissing the "time change" issue and the fact fact that the Raiders are up 17-0 means they're "better" than the Bears. The better team doesn't always play better/win.

 

I'm not dismissing any time change, I'm saying the way CHUCKY dealt with it is kicking Nagys ass and Nagy is the reason we are losing today.

 

I know you're not dismissing the time change, but your question was, "... if the time difference isnt the biggest difference in this game....".

 

I'm just suggesting that the better team doesn't always play better and/or win.

 

And I'm wondering how many people b!tching about the time change have ever actually traveled to Europe from Chicago. It's certainly not as brutal as some are making it out to be. It's not like they're playing on the other side of the world.

[UMFan83]

Does anyone remember a rushing attempt going longer than 10 yards this year? I know it’s happened but it hasn’t happened often enough at all.