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So does Maddon gets fired at the break?

 

Even though this roster is not his fault, I think it is coming.

Not sure there's an in-house option that could replace him given they turn-over the pitching and hitting coach every year. And I doubt they go out and bring someone in mid-season. Maybe Marty Pevey?

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So does Maddon gets fired at the break?

 

Even though this roster is not his fault, I think it is coming.

Not sure there's an in-house option that could replace him given they turn-over the pitching and hitting coach every year. And I doubt they go out and bring someone in mid-season. Maybe Marty Pevey?

 

It would be Mark Loretta.

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Even though this roster is not his fault, I think it is coming.

Not sure there's an in-house option that could replace him given they turn-over the pitching and hitting coach every year. And I doubt they go out and bring someone in mid-season. Maybe Marty Pevey?

 

It would be Mark Loretta.

I mean I guess they just need some kind of lackey to run the team while they give him lineups and bullpen options

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This is as bad as we’ve seen this team since 2016 ended. I think that’s fair to say. Something major has to change and soon.

 

Nah we were playing just as bad right before the break in 2017

We were 5-20 going in to the break in 2016, I believe. Which is somehow worse than 2017 or even where we are so far this year.

 

Your general point still stands but it was 5-15 right before the break.

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Not sure there's an in-house option that could replace him given they turn-over the pitching and hitting coach every year. And I doubt they go out and bring someone in mid-season. Maybe Marty Pevey?

 

It would be Mark Loretta.

I mean I guess they just need some kind of lackey to run the team while they give him lineups and bullpen options

 

Pretty much. And while I suppose it can get even worse, it just feels like this team has checked out on Maddon. Which, of course, is sort of a meatball thing to say. But they are just not competitive in any aspect. They lack focus. They are getting handled by teams that aren't even good.

 

It's not a great look for the manager.

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I see Mr. Burns expertly brought in Montgomery to get the lefty/lefty match up again. It gives you an advantage, see.
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Nah we were playing just as bad right before the break in 2017

We were 5-20 going in to the break in 2016, I believe. Which is somehow worse than 2017 or even where we are so far this year.

 

 

Holy horsefeathers, is that true?

We were 5-15 going in to the break. I just checked, I thought I remember seeing 5-20 on twitter, but that’s wrong. Or it was meant to be won 5 of 20.

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Nah we were playing just as bad right before the break in 2017

We were 5-20 going in to the break in 2016, I believe. Which is somehow worse than 2017 or even where we are so far this year.

 

Your general point still stands but it was 5-15 right before the break.

 

Yeah and at one point had a stretch where they went 1-9 and their pitching was getting lit up. Coincidentally it was during a stretch right before the ASB after the Cubs played like 24 days in a row. Right now our pitching is getting lit up right before the ASB after playing 50 games in 52 days

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It would be Mark Loretta.

I mean I guess they just need some kind of lackey to run the team while they give him lineups and bullpen options

 

Pretty much. And while I suppose it can get even worse, it just feels like this team has checked out on Maddon. Which, of course, is sort of a meatball thing to say. But they are just not competitive in any aspect. They lack focus. They are getting handled by teams that aren't even good.

 

It's not a great look for the manager.

 

He’s also just not being smart. How many times do you have to see Monty get lit up by a lefty before you stop forcing him to pitch as a lefty specialist? I thought Maddon was supposed to be forward thinking not some crusty old dude who is obsessed with traditional matchups overriding any other managerial decision making

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We were 5-20 going in to the break in 2016, I believe. Which is somehow worse than 2017 or even where we are so far this year.

 

Your general point still stands but it was 5-15 right before the break.

 

Yeah and at one point had a stretch where they went 1-9 and their pitching was getting lit up. Coincidentally it was during a stretch right before the ASB after the Cubs played like 24 days in a row. Right now our pitching is getting lit up right before the ASB after playing 50 games in 52 days

 

If it was just the pitching, cool. But this offense has started to shut down like it did the last few months in 2018. Perhaps it's valid, but I've gotten tired with the whole, "They played a lot of games in a row and they are tired" excuse.

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I mean I guess they just need some kind of lackey to run the team while they give him lineups and bullpen options

 

Pretty much. And while I suppose it can get even worse, it just feels like this team has checked out on Maddon. Which, of course, is sort of a meatball thing to say. But they are just not competitive in any aspect. They lack focus. They are getting handled by teams that aren't even good.

 

It's not a great look for the manager.

 

He’s also just not being smart. How many times do you have to see Monty get lit up by a lefty before you stop forcing him to pitch as a lefty specialist? I thought Maddon was supposed to be forward thinking not some crusty old dude who is obsessed with traditional matchups overriding any other managerial decision making

 

Yeah. Like a player. maybe he has regressed as he's gotten older.

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apparently Theo and Jed are both in the stands at PNC and a couple of Cubs fans at the game are commenting on their reactions to events tonight.

 

Here’s one:

 

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How long until we hear they had a “closed door” or “team meeting?”

 

Already happened per Len

 

I think that was just Joe’s annual midseason team meeting unless I missed something

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apparently Theo and Jed are both in the stands at PNC and a couple of Cubs fans at the game are commenting on their reactions to events tonight.

 

Here’s one:

 

 

And it’s pretty much his fault.

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How long until we hear they had a “closed door” or “team meeting?”

 

Already happened per Len

 

I think that was just Joe’s annual midseason team meeting unless I missed something

Yeah it was like his annual “State of the Team” type thing he does every year going in to the break/half way point.

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When we got like 10 days off in the first month I had a feeling this would happen.

Good news is we have an off day every week in July + ASB and 3 off days in the 4 weeks of August. They gave like nobody off days in September this year (we have 2 nobody else in the division has more than 3).

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