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[tweet]https://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/1002145864989757442[/tweet]

 

This mock just came out and I'm really happy with the selection for the Cubs in this one:

 

24. Chicago Cubs: Jordan Groshans, 3B, Magnolia (Texas) HS

 

Hearing bats over arms here, which most likely would mean high school, given the shortage of college bats for this range of the draft other than McCarthy.

 

I really like Groshans and I've mentioned him a few times. If we're taking a prep hitter this is one of the better ones IMO. Some prominent names are missing from this mock draft because it only goes to 30. Law claims some teams with multiple picks (Rays and Royals) after the first will be paying overslot for those guys.

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I like Groshans more than Seigler personally. But, I was more excited about Denaburg than either. If we do go hitting at 24 and its HS, I think I may like Edwards and Schnell as much or more than Groshans at this point too.
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On the draft, the Cubs GM seemed to suggest a different strategy this season than years past. Because there’s not one area/position of tremendous depth and because they’ve done their time focussing on hitters (early in the rebuild) and pitchers (the past couple seasons), they’re “really not targeting any one area [position]” in 2018. With that said, Hoyer claims that “this is a really big draft,” for the Cubs because of the extra picks they have for losing Jake Arrieta and Wade Davis and they really don’t want to blow it.

 

http://www.bleachernation.com/2018/05/31/jed-hoyer-speaks-darvishs-start-teams-getting-chippy-with-the-cubs-edwards-chatwood-more/

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I know the regulars here are well aware of Ethan Hankins. He isn't nearly as highly rated now as he was going into this year or just going back a few months. I still really like him and hope with proper rest he can return to the dominant form he showed last year. He seems like a good kid with good makeup and Wrigley Field is his favorite ballpark to pitch at apparently.

 

Anyway, here is a video showing him at his most elite form. It's obvious how talented he is and why his fastball was the highest rated (in this draft) at one point. His pitching mechanics aren't ideal and it might lead to problems, but his stuff looks amazing here:

 

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It's hard to get a feel for who would be willing to cross that line. Yankees are obviously a good guess, they played the Chapman situation as sleazily as possible (aside, i do wonder if part of the reason Theo paid so far through the nose for him was to avoid those kinds of optics). I feel like the Padres are a good guess, as Preller rarely seems to give any horsefeathers. The Rays maybe? Hard to alienate your fans if you don't have any.
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Kiley and Longenhagen just put out a 2 round mock. Its missing our pick at 62 somehow.....

 

24) Daniel Lynch

77) Will Banfield

78) Gage Canning

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He got the glitch fixed. He's got prep righty Lyon Richardson at 62 for us.

 

So, 2 college and 2 HS. 2 pitchers, 2 hitters. 1 college hitter and pitcher, same with HS.

 

Not sure I'm in love with the names involved, but I love the strategy and equal parts hitting and pitching.

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He got the glitch fixed. He's got prep righty Lyon Richardson at 62 for us.

 

So, 2 college and 2 HS. 2 pitchers, 2 hitters. 1 college hitter and pitcher, same with HS.

 

Not sure I'm in love with the names involved, but I love the strategy and equal parts hitting and pitching.

 

Yeah, I don't love the players they have the Cubs selecting, but I like the overall strategy. Some names are missing even from this deep mock draft...

 

I don't see Griffin Roberts or Tim Cate. I don't see Brett Hansen or Dominic Pipkin. Some other players are missing, but I assume they have them going in the 3rd round.

 

I'm not sure about this, but if I'm deciding on a college lefty I'd prefer Shane McClanahan to Daniel Lynch.

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Matt Dorey:

 

“We’re keeping all components of this draft pool alive, whereas in the last couple years I think we purposely took a deeper look at the pitching and really focused on that, because we know the draft history tells us that pitching comes from everywhere. And we didn’t have a lot of flexibility financially to get creative at the very top and really dip into the high school market that extensively.

 

“This 2018 draft is really interesting because I think the draft strength is really built around some high-upside high school pitching and position players. If we choose to go that route, we can definitely play in that market. I’m not saying we will, but we have the option to do so to a certain degree.”

 

https://theathletic.com/377441/2018/06/01/connecting-the-dots-between-brandon-morrow-and-what-the-cubs-are-thinking-in-this-years-draft/

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Just curious, but have scouts asked you questions about him? If so, is it general stuff or do they get pretty in-depth with their digging?

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They took Tanner Dodson at 78 and HS OF Ryder Green at 98. I would be ok with this if you've got money to grab another solid HS arm in the 4th, with plenty available. Even if it means senior signs in 7-10 or 8-10.

 

Walker falling that far is a steal. Personally, I'd be ok with taking a guy like him, Jenista, Hannah or someone at a discount at 24 and going big on HS guys at 62, 77, and 78.

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Yeah, I kind of think we go HS in the 1st at this point. I just don't want to go way over slot at 24, when there's going to be many other HS kids with upside to take with our next few picks too. No one likely available at 24 is worth more than slot plus overage, AT MOST, in my mind. And if it comes down to a group of guys like Denaburg, Rocker, Rodriguez, Schnell, Edwards, Hankins, Turang, Naylor, and Groshans, then I'm taking whoever will sign for slot or less. I'd be happy with any of that group and extra money to spend later.
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Yeah, I kind of think we go HS in the 1st at this point. I just don't want to go way over slot at 24, when there's going to be many other HS kids with upside to take with our next few picks too. No one likely available at 24 is worth more than slot plus overage, AT MOST, in my mind. And if it comes down to a group of guys like Denaburg, Rocker, Rodriguez, Schnell, Edwards, Hankins, Turang, Naylor, and Groshans, then I'm taking whoever will sign for slot or less. I'd be happy with any of that group and extra money to spend later.

 

Meh, there's hundreds of guys who fit due just how nebulous upside is and they'll be able fit in a couple who fit that description no matter what they do at 24. Between the guys they have coming in for workouts, guys with weaker commits to relatively uncompetitive programs and college players with bit upside like that LHP Lopez, and the words from FO personnel about how this budget makes them players for the higher upside HS guys up top it seems like they're aiming for a potential stud. The chances of finding one, while not impossible, shrinks dramatically outside the first.

 

OTOH I'm just pretending to read tea leaves aka talking out my ass

 

No, I'm reading the same tea leaves. Where we differ, I guess, is I'm ok with ANY of that group at 24. I don't see enough separation to pay more for a singular kid in that group. I'd take the cheapest one, so I have more for the lotto tickets later.

 

If the FO decides otherwise and pays up for a guy in the 1st, I'll be excited. Because I figure they obviously are sold on a guy. But, if they're of the opinion that these guys(maybe even add a few I forgot) are close, then I'd hope they save money for more kids later.

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No, I'm reading the same tea leaves. Where we differ, I guess, is I'm ok with ANY of that group at 24. I don't see enough separation to pay more for a singular kid in that group. I'd take the cheapest one, so I have more for the lotto tickets later.

 

If the FO decides otherwise and pays up for a guy in the 1st, I'll be excited. Because I figure they obviously are sold on a guy. But, if they're of the opinion that these guys(maybe even add a few I forgot) are close, then I'd hope they save money for more kids later.

 

Ah, I probably wouldn't even include half that group in the same tier of talent or upside. Rocker and Hankins (top of the draft types esp Rocker, worth overslotting), then Edwards/Naylor/Turang/Groshans (slot), and then Rodriguez/Schnell (clear underslot guys)

 

I'm assuming you're referring to Grayson Rodriguez and Nick Schnell? I don't know why you have them listed as clear underslot guys... They go in the first round in many, many mock drafts and I doubt they'll be there when the Cubs select again after their first round pick. I don't think you're saving much $$$ for later by taking Rodriguez/Schnell.

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