6/17 Resurging Cubs (Arrieta) @ Pirates (Nova) 7:15 CT FOX

[Cubswin11]

Well this is frustrating

[UMFan83]

Anthony Rizzo - king of the TOOTBLAN

[Bryants Disco Ball]

 

And that's why the Brewers have run away with the division.

 

Nobody ever claimed they would. But I don't think it's a stretch to say their rotation is better than ours. Any numbers or metrics you want to show will prove it.

 

Worry all you want about the Cubs turning things around, I might disagree but at least there's some logic to it. This chicken littling about the Brewers is just sad though. They are not good, they've had a multitude of things go incredibly well and they're even with the Cubs in the loss column.

 

Again, I need to point out that I am not talking up their team like they are in the Nationals level of quality. If they were in a good division, they'd be nothing right now.

 

But in this division, this year, they have the team that is most well-rounded. They don't have the depth to overcome many injuries, but their offense has absolutely been real and consistent even without Braun. The part they suck bad at is the bullpen before they get to Knebel.

 

Be honest, have you even watched them or just assume they suck because they are supposed to? I wouldn't blame you for that.

 

Now, all that said, I don't want to continue to disrupt the board with talking about some division team that nobody here even cares about. I apologize for that. I only started talking about it tonight because it was brought up.

[Gilby]

Maaaan, I know baserunning outs look bad a lot of the time but that one was especially egregious considering a dong there was about as likely as any other type of hit.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

 

Nobody ever claimed they would. But I don't think it's a stretch to say their rotation is better than ours. Any numbers or metrics you want to show will prove it.

 

Worry all you want about the Cubs turning things around, I might disagree but at least there's some logic to it. This chicken littling about the Brewers is just sad though. They are not good, they've had a multitude of things go incredibly well and they're even with the Cubs in the loss column.

 

To belabor this point, everyone has been terribly disappointed with Arrieta, who has a 4.68 ERA entering tonight. Here's the Steamer rest of mseason predictions for the Brewers 5 best starters:

 

Nelson: 4.56

Anderson: 4.66

Davies: 4.52

Garza: 5.00

Guerra: 4.93

 

Well, good for Steamer. But had we gone with what they probably predicted for the first two and a half months for both the Cubs and Brewers they were probably way wrong.

[Cubswin11]

 

But in this division, this year, they have the team that is most well-rounded.

This is not true

[UMFan83]

Man these announcers are really digging into Jake these last couple of innings

[Gilby]

Speaking of dimensions that don't make sense - Gregory Polanco's body. Those legs belong on a 7'7'' person.

[Agony and Ivy]

Man these announcers are really digging into Jake these last couple of innings

 

I didn't get that impression at all. Jake is just super average now. That's simply the new reality.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

 

But in this division, this year, they have the team that is most well-rounded.

This is not true

 

I guess I'm still searching for that point during the season that what is happening on the field matters and is an indication of what to expect. April and May is too early, for sure.

 

But I just struggle to know when the cut off is, even though there can't be an official one. Sometimes teams take off in July, sometimes they fade. Sometimes they don't do well from the start and stay that way.

 

The Cubs have looked pretty much the same since the opening series against the Cards to me. I struggle at times trying to determine what that means.

[UMFan83]

I'm not trying to be sarcastic or jackass or whatever just whimsical: remember when Jake was so good that it was just assumed that the Cubs would win every single one of his starts. Doesn't matter if they are facing a tough pitcher or the offense is struggling, they would win

[UMFan83]

Would be awesome if they homered now and hurdle went nuts

[UMFan83]

Nope instead a weak contact grounder for easy out. Forgot Addy was up

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Nope instead a weak contact grounder for easy out. Forgot Addy was up

 

He actually seems to be doing better recently, true?

[Derwood]

Get this Riff-Raff looking mother humper out please

[David]

 

But in this division, this year, they have the team that is most well-rounded.

This is not true

 

I guess I'm still searching for that point during the season that what is happening on the field matters and is an indication of what to expect. April and May is too early, for sure.

 

But I just struggle to know when the cut off is, even though there can't be an official one. Sometimes teams take off in July, sometimes they fade. Sometimes they don't do well from the start and stay that way.

 

The Cubs have looked pretty much the same since the opening series against the Cards to me. I struggle at times trying to determine what that means.

 

the brewers are like a game ahead of the cubs and have overachieved highly, while the cubs have underachieved across the board.

 

this leads you to believe the brewers are the best team in the division and the most well rounded team?

 

you are back in full july 2015 PleaseWinCubs mode

[David]

what the horsefeathers was that

[Cubswin11]

Javy robbed of 2 hits tonight, though McCutchen's dive was a pretty standard catch for his first out. Edited June 18, 2017 by Cubswin11

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Jim Edmonds is blushing at how much the Pirates dive in the outfield.

[Cubswin11]

what the horsefeathers was that

Damn dirty Hippie, Pirate

[David]

Bad jake is back with a vengeance

 

with an absolute vengeance yep

[Agony and Ivy]

This whole Schwarber is struggling because he plays in LF narrative needs to die. My god is it stupid.

[UMFan83]

Nope instead a weak contact grounder for easy out. Forgot Addy was up

 

He actually seems to be doing better recently, true?

 

Yeah I'm just being a jackass

[Derwood]

Bad jake is back with a vengeance

 

with an absolute vengeance yep

 

Did he look awful in the first inning?

[Cubswin11]

Bad jake is back with a vengeance

 

with an absolute vengeance yep

 

Did he look awful in the first inning?

No, basically all soft contact other than the HR. Should've been only 1 run given up if Miggy didn't have a child's arm

Edited June 18, 2017 by Cubswin11