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Facebook had a gallery of all the player pics and I couldn't have named you 1/3 of them just from the photo. I watched the Bulls last year like I watched the 2013 and 2014 Cubs (ie barely ever)
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Facebook had a gallery of all the player pics and I couldn't have named you 1/3 of them just from the photo. I watched the Bulls last year like I watched the 2013 and 2014 Cubs (ie barely ever)

 

You realize that about 1/3 of the dudes in training camp won't be on the team and nobody knows who they are right?

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Facebook had a gallery of all the player pics and I couldn't have named you 1/3 of them just from the photo. I watched the Bulls last year like I watched the 2013 and 2014 Cubs (ie barely ever)

 

You realize that about 1/3 of the dudes in training camp won't be on the team and nobody knows who they are right?

 

Yeah, but I wouldn't recognize Bobby Portis or Doug McDermott if he walked up and shook my hand either

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Wade had some interesting things to say about 2010 Free Agency today. Never seen it discussed this in depth as it pertains to the Bulls. Here are some quotes:

 

Wade had serious talks in free agency with his hometown team, even taking a second meeting in early July after the initial round of recruitment pitches. Ultimately, it came down to one unavoidable fact: Chicago (and New York, and New Jersey, and the Clippers and every other team meeting with the big-name free agents) could only create enough cap space to sign two of them. Pat Riley, after unloading Michael Beasley to the Timberwolves and Daequan Cook to the Thunder, was close to creating enough room under the cap to team James, Wade and Bosh together in Miami. It was a possibility that proved tough for them to resist.

 

“It was the Chris Bosh effect,” Wade said after practice Thursday at the Advocate Center. “We had the opportunity for us three to play together and we both separately really wanted to play with Chris Bosh. It was gonna be kind of a sense where Chicago could’ve got two players and it probably was going to be LeBron and Chris or me and Chris. It kind of was more so that effect, that they could only do two. And Miami was able to get all three of us. And we really wanted to play together at that moment once we found out it could be a thing. So instead of it being me, LeBron and Derrick Rose, it’s going to be a tough one. So we decided to pick what we thought was better from a basketball standpoint.”

 

It wasn’t an easy decision. Wade, a Chicago-area native, was drawn to his childhood team. And James, who at the time was talking about wanting to be a “global icon,” was drawn to the big market and the franchise’s history, as well as the chance to be tied to his idol, Michael Jordan. Riley’s pitch to James, which involved plopping down his five championship rings on the boardroom table, has already become something of an urban legend in modern NBA lore, but the ability to sign Bosh while retaining Udonis Haslem and adding a few second-tier free agents (most notably Mike Miller) made the Heat the team to beat in the pitch meetings. All else being equal, that Big Three dynasty, and all the fanfare that came with it, could have happened in Chicago.

 

“This was a place I wanted to play,” Wade said. “It was a place that LeBron also loved. We loved the city of Chicago. It’s a great market as well. Obviously, the sunny sun of Miami is great too. We had two great choices. It pretty much boiled down to what we felt we could build. We had to build a whole team in Miami. Obviously here they had players already. But once we got me, Bron and Chris, we had to now take pay cuts and build a team. It was obviously tougher to do it in Miami but because we wanted to play together, us three, we decided to do it there.”

 

Throughout the process, the Bulls made efforts to create additional cap space. At one point, they discussed a trade with the Clippers that would have taken Deng’s contract off the books and made it easier to piece together triple max space. If they had been able to pull off that trade, the last half-decade of the NBA may have been drastically different.

 

“It would be a different story,” Wade said of the discussed Deng trade. “We thought about it. That didn’t happen. It was something they talked about. They were very open with us with what they were trying to do. They heard the news of Miami being able to bring three players in. But it never happened. So we never had to think that far.”

 

If this is true, and I see no reason why Wade would lie, the Bulls super team was a lot closer to happening than we thought. They should have done anything they could to give Deng away and make it happen.

 

Also makes me wonder when the Bulls knew it wasn't going to happen. If I recall correctly, the Bulls signed Boozer probably 3 days before "The Decision". Obviously signing Boozer removed any possibility of having room for 3 max FAs and even probably 2. Did the Bulls pretty much know at that point, or did they really think that signing Boozer would be more attractive to Wade or James than teaming with Bosh, or that Chicago was such an attractive draw for either of them that they could accept playing with Boozer instead of Bosh?

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Interesting. The unofficial story I remember came out a few years back was that Wade and Bosh were ready to sign in Chicago and Lebron wasn't convinced about the super team idea, but when they told him to give him one last chance to change his mind he took it, and they formed the trio. Obviously thid story indicates it was he and Lebron coordinating moreso.

 

Who knows, who cares at this point.

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Wade had some interesting things to say about 2010 Free Agency today. Never seen it discussed this in depth as it pertains to the Bulls. Here are some quotes:

 

Wade had serious talks in free agency with his hometown team, even taking a second meeting in early July after the initial round of recruitment pitches. Ultimately, it came down to one unavoidable fact: Chicago (and New York, and New Jersey, and the Clippers and every other team meeting with the big-name free agents) could only create enough cap space to sign two of them. Pat Riley, after unloading Michael Beasley to the Timberwolves and Daequan Cook to the Thunder, was close to creating enough room under the cap to team James, Wade and Bosh together in Miami. It was a possibility that proved tough for them to resist.

 

“It was the Chris Bosh effect,” Wade said after practice Thursday at the Advocate Center. “We had the opportunity for us three to play together and we both separately really wanted to play with Chris Bosh. It was gonna be kind of a sense where Chicago could’ve got two players and it probably was going to be LeBron and Chris or me and Chris. It kind of was more so that effect, that they could only do two. And Miami was able to get all three of us. And we really wanted to play together at that moment once we found out it could be a thing. So instead of it being me, LeBron and Derrick Rose, it’s going to be a tough one. So we decided to pick what we thought was better from a basketball standpoint.”

 

It wasn’t an easy decision. Wade, a Chicago-area native, was drawn to his childhood team. And James, who at the time was talking about wanting to be a “global icon,” was drawn to the big market and the franchise’s history, as well as the chance to be tied to his idol, Michael Jordan. Riley’s pitch to James, which involved plopping down his five championship rings on the boardroom table, has already become something of an urban legend in modern NBA lore, but the ability to sign Bosh while retaining Udonis Haslem and adding a few second-tier free agents (most notably Mike Miller) made the Heat the team to beat in the pitch meetings. All else being equal, that Big Three dynasty, and all the fanfare that came with it, could have happened in Chicago.

 

“This was a place I wanted to play,” Wade said. “It was a place that LeBron also loved. We loved the city of Chicago. It’s a great market as well. Obviously, the sunny sun of Miami is great too. We had two great choices. It pretty much boiled down to what we felt we could build. We had to build a whole team in Miami. Obviously here they had players already. But once we got me, Bron and Chris, we had to now take pay cuts and build a team. It was obviously tougher to do it in Miami but because we wanted to play together, us three, we decided to do it there.”

 

Throughout the process, the Bulls made efforts to create additional cap space. At one point, they discussed a trade with the Clippers that would have taken Deng’s contract off the books and made it easier to piece together triple max space. If they had been able to pull off that trade, the last half-decade of the NBA may have been drastically different.

 

“It would be a different story,” Wade said of the discussed Deng trade. “We thought about it. That didn’t happen. It was something they talked about. They were very open with us with what they were trying to do. They heard the news of Miami being able to bring three players in. But it never happened. So we never had to think that far.”

 

If this is true, and I see no reason why Wade would lie, the Bulls super team was a lot closer to happening than we thought. They should have done anything they could to give Deng away and make it happen.

 

Also makes me wonder when the Bulls knew it wasn't going to happen. If I recall correctly, the Bulls signed Boozer probably 3 days before "The Decision". Obviously signing Boozer removed any possibility of having room for 3 max FAs and even probably 2. Did the Bulls pretty much know at that point, or did they really think that signing Boozer would be more attractive to Wade or James than teaming with Bosh, or that Chicago was such an attractive draw for either of them that they could accept playing with Boozer instead of Bosh?

 

no we "knew" lebron (and thus one of the others) was very close as it was happening. at one point the bulls were enormous favorites in vegas to land him (IIRC lebron to chicago was as high as -500 to -800 at one point)

 

one time when we had the old archives i read through the FA 2010 free agency thread on here and we were pretty much in pandemonium for a week straight

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