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mid 20's AAV

 

which seems unrealistic as hell, but who knows. anymore than that, though, and i'm content to get this year for $10M and next year for a few more and call it a day. i do love that man though.

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i know everyone (myself included) is going to be super against a long-term extension for arrieta. so . . .

 

FUN GAME

 

what is the maximum six year contract (2016-2021) the cubs could give arrieta that would make you say "oooh nice job cubs" and smile real big?

 

6/100. Absolutely zero chance he'd consider it, but it'd take something THAT skewed towards the Cubs side for it to make sense since he's a pitcher, he's coming off the most innings he's ever thrown by a ton, and we've got him this year and next anyway.

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i know everyone (myself included) is going to be super against a long-term extension for arrieta. so . . .

 

FUN GAME

 

what is the maximum six year contract (2016-2021) the cubs could give arrieta that would make you say "oooh nice job cubs" and smile real big?

 

There's nothing realistic that I'd be happy about. But if he is awesome again in 2016, I'll have more comfort that he can throw this many innings and that he's actually awesome and my willingness to throw a bunch of money at him will go up. Outside of the CY pitching thing, he's awesome too.

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Not really interested in extending him for the likely cost, ride him the next 2 years, cut bait and grab the draft pick. Go after either Strasburg next offseason or hopefully enough guys in the system continue to develop that we have assets to trade for a pitcher closer to his mid-late 20s by the time Arrieta leaves.
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i know everyone (myself included) is going to be super against a long-term extension for arrieta. so . . .

 

FUN GAME

 

what is the maximum six year contract (2016-2021) the cubs could give arrieta that would make you say "oooh nice job cubs" and smile real big?

 

There's nothing realistic that I'd be happy about. But if he is awesome again in 2016, I'll have more comfort that he can throw this many innings and that he's actually awesome and my willingness to throw a bunch of money at him will go up. Outside of the CY pitching thing, he's awesome too.

 

I agree with your post overall, but he is absolutely actually awesome. He was just as good in 2014 and there was nothing all that flukish about the way he did it in either season. Just saying.

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Heartless as it is, I really wouldn't mind them using him the next two seasons basically like their intention is to destroy him at the end of them.
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I have only one concern about the 2016 team: how well Arrieta holds up after the ~250 innings of last season. If he pitches, I expect he'll be awesome, but I'm kind of terrified.
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I have only one concern about the 2016 team: how well Arrieta holds up after the ~250 innings of last season. If he pitches, I expect he'll be awesome, but I'm kind of terrified.

Yeah, I feel the same way. Jake breaking down is about the only one thing that could derail this team. Hopefully, that Mets game was just fatigue.

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I said it before, and this is just unfounded optimism, but I like to think that Jake's arm has always been suited to sustain high innings, he just never reached them because he sucked really bad in Baltimore and never got the chance. If you think about it, very few pitchers who reach 200 innings are truly awful pitchers. I'm sure there are tons of pitchers capable of throwing 200+ innings who never will because they're sporting ERA's above 4.00 and get pulled before the 6th inning because they're not not good enough to leave in the game long enough to rack up innings.

 

I'm maintaining the mindset that he's another Kershaw or Felix or Price. An elite pitcher who can throw tons of innings and whose arm stays rock solid and healthy pretty much all the time.

 

Get on the optimism train!

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I said it before, and this is just unfounded optimism, but I like to think that Jake's arm has always been suited to sustain high innings, he just never reached them because he sucked really bad in Baltimore and never got the chance. If you think about it, very few pitchers who reach 200 innings are truly awful pitchers. I'm sure there are tons of pitchers capable of throwing 200+ innings who never will because they're sporting ERA's above 4.00 and get pulled before the 6th inning because they're not not good enough to leave in the game long enough to rack up innings.

 

I'm maintaining the mindset that he's another Kershaw or Felix or Price. An elite pitcher who can throw tons of innings and whose arm stays rock solid and healthy pretty much all the time.

 

Get on the optimism train!

 

Also on the optimistic side: He now has had a 250-inning season. So at least we don't have to worry about him never having pitched deep into a season.

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Too bad @FacebookCubs is dead:

 

Josh Wallace - Really don't get why the Cubs paid heyward a fat contract and then give our ace a 1 year deal. We're gonna have to eventually pay other players like kris bryant too and based on this borderline [expletive] method of signing players I dunno if he'll stay.
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Too bad @FacebookCubs is dead:

 

Josh Wallace - Really don't get why the Cubs paid heyward a fat contract and then give our ace a 1 year deal. We're gonna have to eventually pay other players like kris bryant too and based on this borderline [expletive] method of signing players I dunno if he'll stay.

 

Where is this from?

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Some article about the deal that showed up on my FB feed. Maybe the ESPN one? I really can't tell now.

 

I made a quick attempt to try to find it and nearly had a heart attack reading FB comments about baseball. I don't know why reading people's stupid thoughts and/or opinions raises my blood pressure so much.

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